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I think you got Liqueur and Lacquer mixed up. One's an alcoholic drink, and the other's a wood finish that can be highly toxic.
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I recall that the Crusaders will sometimes take a hit of matango during fights, which counts as a self-heal and buff. poo poo's everywhere.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBils7FvKNQ matango
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I love it when so many people pop up with their own little facts after an update. It really seems like the best way to learn new things about a game is to LP it.Pittsburgh Lambic posted:I recall that the Crusaders will sometimes take a hit of matango during fights, which counts as a self-heal and buff. poo poo's everywhere. It only heals like 4 HP for them, but yes. Robindaybird posted:I think you got Liqueur and Lacquer mixed up. One's an alcoholic drink, and the other's a wood finish that can be highly toxic. You can see that it causes the Drunk status effect, though. So the translators got it wrong too.  (I will edit that.)quote:
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(The tech from this one does cause the Drunk status; seems somebody got liqueur and lacquer mixed up. Both the updated patch and the old RPGC site call it lacquer.)
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Actually, it could still be lacquer. The shellac is often dissolved in alcohol, drying to form the lacquer shell. This is why putting alcohol anywhere near a lacquered surface is a terrible idea, it'll start dissolving the shellac again, ruining the finish. So, much like a person can get drunk chugging denatured gasoline, lacquer could, theoretically, do the trick, if it weren't pretty much the worst idea in the world. Oh, and also one of the symptoms of inhaling too many fumes from lacquer (also varnish remover and some paints) is a feeling of drunkenness. 
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So basically you're walking around beating up street punks and their increasingly elaborate mechanical escort in order to get parts to upgrade a killing machine made out of some poor kid's pet turtle.
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Glazius posted:So basically you're walking around beating up street punks and their increasingly elaborate mechanical escort in order to get parts to upgrade a killing machine made out of some poor kid's pet turtle. Yeah, this chapter is great. 
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By the way, there may be people thinking that the idea of using liquefied creatures to power robots sounds a little familiar. However!  Neon Genesis Evangelion wasn't released until the October of 1995, just about a year exactly after Live A Live came out. Thus, any similarity truly is coincidental!
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EclecticTastes posted:By the way, there may be people thinking that the idea of using liquefied creatures to power robots sounds a little familiar. I'm regardless awaiting the astounding reveal where our robot buddy gets busted up and Tang leaks out.
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a lot of stuff from evangelion was just blatantly stolen from stuff like giant robo or the old british tv show UFO so there's probably some old anime series that had people turning into goop to power robots that both are referencing
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Well, I was going to do a bit of catching up,, but it seems that most of Battle SQ and Beer SQ aren't uploaded, so I'll have to give the last couple of chapters a pass. That said there's still... Well, I'll just leave this here.
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darealkooky posted:a lot of stuff from evangelion was just blatantly stolen from stuff like giant robo or the old british tv show UFO so there's probably some old anime series that had people turning into goop to power robots that both are referencing You forgot about Ultraman.
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Speaking of anime references, Coop's default name is Akira. Yes, that Akira. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akira_(manga).
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Junpei posted:Speaking of anime references, Coop's default name is Akira. Yes, that Akira. Or perhaps an actual psychic mecha pilot 
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JamMasterJim posted:Or perhaps an actual psychic mecha pilot There's actually elements of both of you being right, but most of it is spoilers, so wait until later in the chapter and I or someone else will point them out.
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Dear loyal readers, The management would like to apologise for recent delays in the release of updates; any complaints about this occurrence and/or any further delays may be addressed to forums user Lizard Wizard, on account of his insistence regarding a trial of Guild Wars 2 (which seems by all accounts to be a insidious program created for use against completionists). Expect an update later today. Probably. please send help Sincerely, Yapping Eevee
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Update 22: The Plot Kicks In. Okay, so we’ve basically finished with the grinding and gearing up for the chapter. Trying to activate Buriki Daioh and recruiting Taro will let us progress.  And of course, where better to tie the trigger for a scene than to a tile you absolutely have to cross in Chibikko House?  Looks like the Crusaders didn’t give up after their last beating.   Get outta the way!  Taeko kindly steps aside so we can elbow this dude in the face. He wouldn’t be any challenge even without any grinding.   We’re getting out of here! LET ME GO! Well, credit where it’s due; they didn’t stick around to let Coop kick all their asses.   Kenichi! What happened? The Crusaders took Kazu! What?! Aw, man. Matsu’s gonna try and hog all the rear end-kicking!  Oh hi there buddy…   Sorry ‘bout this! -------  And so, after having jacked some random guy’s bike, it’s time for a chase through… whatever city this is. I’m going to assume Neo-Tokyo.   Which ends up leading to the docks. No music here, just a mixture of ambient noise.  The idea is to wander around until you get your first glimpse of Kazu, then head to the area where they were dragging him away.  Then eventually the Crusaders will end up leaving by the southern exit, letting us discover them facing off against Matsu.  Y-you… You’re always getting in our way! I’ll kill you!! Sure you will. Shadow Image (Coop’s level 13 tech) makes short work of these chumps.  Why’re yez kidnappin’ folks!? I ain’t talking!I’m sure you can guess what that means.  (It couldn’t be…) C-crap… (… to the commander…) ! (Should I go… to the facility?) Uh-huh… Well, it seems the military has some scheme that involves getting a lowlife gang to kidnap people. Totally above board, of course. -------   Back at Chibikko House, everyone has gathered up to welcome Kazu back after his brief kidnapping and subsequent rescue.  This is the only bit of information we need, but might as well see what’s on everyone’s minds. (Wow, Kenichi’s amazing!) We really can depend on Mr. Matsu after all… / (We still don’t know where Watanabe’s dad is…) I’d fight! Yeah! Tiger Driver! / (I’m so glad, Kazu…) That was such a thrill! / (Man, I totally wussed out…) Yay Kazu!! / (It’s cuz he didn’t take his nap.) I… I might have been kidnapped… / (Dad… When will you come back for me?)Watanabe is still the most  . Alright, let’s say hi to Coop’s sister.  H-he went home…Hmmm… Are you sure about that, Kaori?  (… O-oh no…! I can’t let him read my mind about Matsu!) (That jerk… Trying to be cool…) -------  And so we shall!  If we say Yes posted:
We have to say Nope here. I may not have an appointment, but…  What’re you doing?!-------  Oh good, they didn’t bring their Noisy Crickets. The MIB has only 70 HP, but has access to Psycho Alpha and Hypnosis Tone, techs which can turn and put Coop to sleep respectively. They’re an annoyance, but not overly threatening.  Another pair of them attack before we even get to the front door; the facility is crawling with government types. Consider it the cousin of Kung Fu’s Yi Po Men dojo.  There are a lot of enemies here.  These ones have robotic Dobermans; they’re more of a threat, but break down when you defeat the MIB.  The MIB do have one nasty trick, though. Seems they select government agents based on psychic ability these days.   (Hey, he’s kinda cute!)  There’s not much to see up the escalator; any men inside the facility who share this sprite will think one of three things.  (W-what are the guards doing?!) / (I want a raise…) / (Wonder what the secret project is…)Secret project, you say. Or think, rather.  The upper door is a toilet, and it’ll get you attacked by a MIB/Doberman combo every time you use it. They have an EXP value of 5, so don’t bother with it. We’re plenty strong enough for the rest of the chapter.   (He looks pretty dumb!)...Rude.   Yep, this place is totally legit.  Let’s keep exploring. See what other military hardware we can steal while searching for answers.   Both southern doors in here lead to the same room, which has another knife and grenade in the lockers.    Hmm, doesn’t seem like a very big facility.  Oh, just shut up and die. We want to go down the right-hand elevator here.  There’s an optional scene in the upper door here, and I don’t want to miss it.  A MIB bursts in with their “What’re you doing?!”…  ...and gets blink-and-you’ll-miss-it buttkicked. Taking a break, huh? Matsu! Let’s do it, Coop!And thus we get Matsu as a party member.  He would join us later if we missed this scene, but hey. Always nice to have some extra help. Toss the spare Taeko’s Punch and Shinju Shirt on him, and pass the Rider Boots over to Taro. He’ll do fine.  The other door outside will lead in here, which serves as a place to grab some more items. There’s a trio of Napalm Bombs in the unguarded room, along with…  That free Plasma Spark I mentioned earlier. Very nice.   (Man, security’s tight.) I’m working right now. / (You sure are stubborn! Well, I guess with my good looks, I can’t blame you.)I don’t think she’s interested, mate.  The guarded door leads to a throwing knife, napalm bomb and…  ...well, aside from more weapons and two 100V lasers in the lockers, some interesting information. I-intruders!? / (If these top-secret files were to be read by someone…!) Professor Cindelman’s assistant. Whereabouts presently unknown… Watanabe’s dad worked here…?  An anti-establishment organization.  …  Died in a dispute with a Crusader. His son Coop and daughter Kaori were taken to Chibikko House. …Well, this has been rather illuminating.     Let’s just move on for now. There’s only one more direction we can go, and it’s through that door.  You’re dead meat!If we didn’t have Matsu posted:
 Really, you couldn’t even bust out the Lariat No.3 to fight us? Bunch of chumps.  This is where Matsu will join up if you didn’t grab him earlier. It’s only a few fights, so whatever.   With 60 HP, the Guard is pretty laughable. It’s like this chapter doesn’t expect you to gear up properly.  ...Pathing is hard, okay.   If we read the mind of the lady in this sideroom, she’ll summon another repeatable fight. It only has an EXP value of 8, so we’ll pass.  Have fun in hell, boys!   One of the two guys with pathing problems is actually a General, which qualifies him as sort of a mini-boss. He has 496 HP and can do 30-80 damage with his attacks.  Matsu’s Pissed Fist tends to wreck single targets pretty hard, though.  The double door is a no-go, so we need to fight a second General to get into that other room instead.  (Music stops.)Ooh, science-y!    ...Oh God, what did they do to Watanabe’s dad?    But I have a date, and I ain’t working overtime!They turned him… into a fluid android, like Taro?    …I think we may have found those 2000 people the Crusaders were ordered to kidnap.   And they are still very much alive.  (F49F…)Urgh. Let’s just get in that room and bring these assholes to justice.  It’s open!-------  ...What in the actual hell is that.  Who are you?! Y-Yamazaki! Matsu!? So you finally…  My name is Cindelman… My research on liquefied humans progressed immensely thanks to Toei! But… you! You helped him to get away!  Odeo Temple is where science and religion join as one! As the 2,000 people merge into one, the great Odeo will descend unto the Inko buddha statue!  I hope you’re all following this, folks… because things are getting pretty crazy up in here. Such a pity. You’ve come all this way, but I’m afraid I can’t let you leave… Here’s a present from the professor…! Ooooh, this is perfect! Just the test I was hoping for! Human subjects…! Oh no.   I WILL… KILL YOU…-------  Kozo Watanabe is a very dangerous foe… if you face him head-on.  Case in point.  However, it seems that ‘not finished’ means that his inner workings are completely exposed at the back.  Attack W-1 from behind, and he will suffer critical systems failure. -------  (No music.) IS HE DOING WELL… AT… CHIBIKKO… HOUSE…? …      …We’ll see you next time, folks.
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And we have another Odi(e/o/whatever) that likely will be the boss of this chapter. So, when is that theme going to be explained? In the chapter after this one right, a final level after seeing the rest.
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grandalt posted:And we have another Odi(e/o/whatever) that likely will be the boss of this chapter. So, when is that theme going to be explained? In the chapter after this one right, a final level after seeing the rest. "Odio" is Latin for "hatred".
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EclecticTastes posted:"Odio" is Latin for "hatred". Oh, so we're fighting the universe's ultimate evildoer, Lord Hater? What a time to be down a banjo. Seriously, though, that running gag got dark.
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EclecticTastes posted:"Odio" is Latin for "hatred". I was always reading it as "I hate".
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It's also Spanish for "hate", so from the time someone pointed it out in the thread (because I'm bad at seeing patterns) I immedately thought there'll be something about all evil being powered by hatred or something. It hasn't appeared yet but I fully expect that message in the future.
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No Gravitas posted:I was always reading it as "I hate". I do not, myself, speak Latin, so that may be how it conjugates. Yeah, it's not exactly a subtle theme. Also, this is why I kept saying Mecha should be done last, it's a sort of payoff for the running gag. I also like to believe that the kid is a descendant of the kid from the Bakumatsu chapter, and grows up to design the basis for the antennas used on the Cogito Ergo Sum. Because I like connections like that.
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The Latin noun for hate is 'odium'. 'odio' is probably some modern Romance language's word.
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ultrafilter posted:The Latin noun for hate is 'odium'. 'odio' is probably some modern Romance language's word. As I said before, it's Spanish. Still means hate though.
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It's not quite odio, really.The final boss is actually the state of Ohio.
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That explains why he's round at the ends and high in the middle.
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So we're going to fight Zeromus. Got it.
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relevantBlaze Dragon posted:As I said before, it's Spanish. Still means hate though. a word can be both spanish and latin, and odio is a valid conjugation with a more appropriate meaning than simply hatred
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Update 23: We Dig Giant Robots!  So Commander Yamazaki’s helping Cindelman, and Kumotatsu from Odeo Temple was there too… There’s gotta be a way to stop ‘em. Huh? Who’s Buriki Daioh? The ancient mech, Buriki Daioh… A saint from Babylonia of old is said to have controlled it via psychokinesis. A… giant robot? For real? Awesome! Control Buriki Daioh with your psychic powers! Smash up the bad guys!Man, Coop’s psychic powers are the worst kept secret. ...  Continue…You may not remember this, but there was a little exchange back in Mecha’s first update: quote:
That’s just about all we get to learn that Kaori is rather sickly before this scene. Unfortunately… Coop wasn’t able to do it. Is there another way? No… Well, if we inject a liquefied human, it might be possible to activate it like we did Taro…   Thanks, Kazu. That won’t work, I’m afraid… Buriki Daioh is powered by the human spirit.There’s a long pause…   (Music stops abruptly.) W-what? Don’t be stupid!   Please… N-no! There’s n-no reason for you to get involved in this! My heart can’t take this… Well… (Music slowly fades.) Heh… Us bikers don’t know the meanin’ of the word “impossible!” I mean, I’m Matsu…!  And as Matsu and Toei race out of the room, the normal music fades back in.  Do you know Coop at all, Taeko? (Kenichi…) What’s Matsu gonna do? / (If something happens to these kids…) I wanna ride on Buriki Daioh! / (But Matsu doesn’t have any psychic powers…) I wonder what’ll happen. / (Oooh, my nerves…) I bet Misawa could do it!! / (Save us, Misawa…)We may need more than a wrestler to save us, Yuki… Matsu… You remind me of Dad… / (Matsu…) W-what did she say? Coop may need to have a talk with Watanabe later…  For now though, we need to focus on the matter at hand.  How do I get it to move… (Too bad. Knowing him, he’s probably in some dive, getting plastered…)Ah… Guess it’s time to visit the place we saw earlier.   Yep, there he is…  What, you come here to laugh at me? Bah, I couldn’t do anything after all… / (drat it…) Hmmm… Well, there’s nothing we can do for Matsu now. Let’s just leave… (You may wish to make some changes to your equipment right about now. Namely, give Taro’s robot accessories to Coop, for Reasons™.)   Those assholes! They’d burn down Chibikko House just to get at Coop and Matsu! Taeko…! Kaori! I’ll save them! I told you! It’s hopeless! I don’t wanna die! I’ll go! You all get out of here!  Okay, big drat hero time.  Coop…! I’ll save Kaori! Get out of here!Finding Taeko is easy enough.  ...Good thing Kaori wasn’t still in bed. You may have noticed that one of the doors was blocked by flames; we have to look in every other part of Chibikko House before we can get in there.  Hope nobody needed the can. This is where the usual video starts. (Warning: It’s 26 minutes long.) Still, I very much recommend watching this one, since I’m not going to be commenting much for the remainder of the update. Things will speak for themselves.  Kaori!! (…) Ooooh… Coop… Are you okay!?Of course, that’s when the rumbling starts…  -------  What? But last time… S’alright, I’m good. It’ll work this time! Let’s go!-------   W-with the power… of the ancients!  It… It’s moving!  The eyes light up, and the chains retract… Buriki Daioh is fully operational! -------  (No music.) What is it? I-I’m sorry. I’ve been perfectly horrible to you…  Of course! Reiko! Yoshikazu! (Musicus Interruptus.) Eeeek! -------  -------  Graaaaghhh!  -------  ...Oh hi there.  That voice… Matsu! -------  He binged on Matango to heighten his senses and his spirit… You moron! You’re gonna get yourself killed! So l‘ng as’v got… B’riki D’ioh… Massu ayn’t ded!-------      Grrrrggh! S’nuff!  -------  (Music fades.) Huhf… huhf… huhf… Hey there, Taeko. We briefly get control here, but we just need to read Matsu’s mind to check on him.  (We were enemies…)-------     (We both had our hands full with keeping our subordinates from taking to their heels…)-------   I don’t want any more deaths! Don’t be dense! They’re just stringing you along! Do you think the army will fold just because of your insignificant resistance?! Grow up, Matsu! So you’re just Yamazaki’s dog after all! … Sorry, but you have to die!A shot rings out…  (Silence.) (I pulled the trigger… Just an instant before him…)-------  M-Matsu…  Not yet… Coop… Let’s go… to the temple… Let’s bust ‘em up…! No! Don’t go!! Go tomorrow! You need rest! Women always get in the way…  …And then Matsu collapses. … W-… … Out…  (Music fades as everyone leaves.) Matsu… He’s not dead yet… Right? -------  You… You’re moving it!? (To the Odeo Temple…!) -------   By the graces of the army…! -------  So now we have control of Buriki Daioh, and we’re going to have to smash our way through Yamazaki’s troops to reach the temple.   Fighter planes and tanks are going to give us a warm welcome.    But the power of Buriki Daioh is irrepressible.  Even an 88mm shell does nothing more than scratch damage, not even taking off 1% of Buriki Daioh’s monstrous health pool. Not bad for being tin-plated, huh?    When we reach the front of the temple, we have one more encounter… The flying fortress, Donryu! Equipped with missiles, vulcan cannons, flamethrowers and its very own Maser Cannon.   At 900 HP, the Donryu doesn’t last long against Buriki Daioh’s assault. -------  My army… … ‘Tis brilliance…! Humans melted together with other humans into one being, sharing both mind and body! And hatred… A superb world without fighting… Ah well… You wouldn’t understand.  So each person averages 30 liters? Well, that’s one way to lose weight.   Keruruu… You’ve come… Now! The Great Inko Buddha statue shall bring unto us salvation!  All of the birds flying around the temple grounds approach the Inko Buddha statue… and are absorbed into it. -------  We can do this…  -------  Fighting in the lake of liquified humans, the mech from ancient Babylonia must slay the demon pheasant… The Great Inko Statue is either one of the easiest or one of the hardest final bosses, solely dependent on which of their moves they favor.  Keruru Story in particular is one we want him to avoid using too often. It locks out foot techs, and Buriki Daioh’s Babylon Kick is by far his strongest move in this fight. The statue can also throw out Liquified Man Curse to lock hand techs, and use Keruru Kick to turn our mech and cancel Halogen Laser.  Even though it has 2050 HP, the Inko statue cannot withstand a few good godlike kicks. -------  (No music.) Master Odeo… No…! The… The liquified humans…! -------  Now you’ll become one with them…Serves the bastards right.  They’re… They’re gonna swallow Buriki Daioh too!? C…  Not if Coop has anything to say about it…! Ow, dammit! ------- Hey… Hey…   Huh…? Er… Okay! And so Coop ends up taking over the Taiyaki stand.  Taeko keeps a close eye on Kazu to stop him wandering off.  Although the kids are still a handful, with Watanabe getting pushed around by Yuki once more.   Taro keeps a close eye on Kaori, perhaps wanting to return the favour she did for him.  Despite Coop’s best efforts, Buriki Daioh refuses to move again.  The couple’s moment seems to have passed.   And Coop… Well, he has a lot to think about.  As a little something extra, please enjoy the Motto! Motto! Mix of ‘Go! Go! Buriki Daioh!’ ElTipejoLoco posted:I'm a little sad the MOTTO MOTTO version got linked without sticking in the promotional vid for the 2012 "newly recorded vocals" version Squenix single where the attacks get called out by the singer. -------  And so, after helping Ayla take on the Kuu tribe and rescue Bel from the jaws of O-D-O…  …leading Cube to triumph over the murderous OD-10 and saving some of the crew of the Cogito Ergosum…  …travelling with the Master and Li Kuugo to avenge Yuan and Sammo, and show Odi Wang Lee the superiority of WuTang Kung Fu…  …witnessing a new dawn in the land of the rising sun, as Sonic-maru and Ryoma overcome Ode Iou’s demonic form…  …watching Andre take on the world and win, defeating Odie Oldbright for the ultimate title…  …moseying along with the Waco Kid and Mad Dog as they show O. Dio’s Crazy Bunch who’s boss… …and of course, seeing Coop pilot Buriki Daioh to take down Master Odeo and the Great Inko statue… After all of that…   There is one more story which must be told, before everything can be brought together. This is the tale of a valiant knight… Our eighth protagonist goes by Oersted. If you wish to change that, now’s the time to vote. Yapping Eevee fucked around with this message at 07:24 on Apr 9, 2016 |
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Aaaand I just noticed the tiny text at the bottom of the update.  Lets name our knight Brando for completely innocuous reasons. GilliamYaeger fucked around with this message at 10:14 on Mar 20, 2016 |
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Mecha's ending can be taken as 'this is what happened afterwards' or 'you were playing Coop's dream the whole time.' It's heavily implied to be the latter. Knight! This chapter is my favorite. It's well written despite the limitations and it pretty much ties everything together. Oerstead's a pretty decent name, but I'll throw out a vote. John. Gotta be subtle.
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GilliamYaeger posted:
Going to go with Brando, like Marlon.
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Brando is perfect.
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That ending was pretty abrupt. But yes. Bra It's got what you crave
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Ornstein cuz look at that mane.
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Brando Everyone loves marlon, right?
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I'm going in blind, but if everyone's setting up the joke I think then Brando for sure.
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EponymousMrYar posted:Mecha's ending can be taken as 'this is what happened afterwards' or 'you were playing Coop's dream the whole time.' ... Oh that WAS subtle, nicely done.
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