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lol yeah JMM was juiced up to the tits in that fight too. I haven't watched it in years and I was probably drunk at the time but Pacquiao actually had him hurt pretty good iirc and was going all out to stop him once and for all, and then that happened.
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It was a great fight, as were the others. Pacquiao was winning the rounds but it didn't matter because Marquez was gameplan was built around that punch. When I first watched the fight I was a bit too much of pacfan and was convinced Marquez got lucky or something. Looking back, it's not the sort of thing that you pull out of nowhere. It was a competitive fight and drat, those guys match up really well.The Ninth Layer posted:I've never thought much about Manny Pacquiao's intelligence but even I have trouble believing this isn't an intentional move to drum up some controversy for Pac-Bradley III. Why else would he go back to the homophobia quotes after getting reamed over them all day yesterday? I joked about it a bit but I don't really think pac would be intentionally trying to turn people against him. I think that's either just who he is or an effort to appeal to his voter base. I hear Tyson Fury is excited about this. Not a whole lot to say in the end, this isn't really new for pac or the sport. It matters a lot more for him as a politician, but we wouldn't have heard about some random Filipino congressman quoting Leviticus so I'm not going to feign a concern for foreign politics that i didn't have before.
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What are the best JMM fights? I feel like maybe I've asked before 
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The Ninth Layer posted:I've never thought much about Manny Pacquiao's intelligence but even I have trouble believing this isn't an intentional move to drum up some controversy for Pac-Bradley III. Why else would he go back to the homophobia quotes after getting reamed over them all day yesterday? He's an evangelical politician and he's up for reelection this year.
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Glad I don't live in the Philippines. Donald Trump is bad enough.
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it's ok to juice if you're just evening things up
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Realistically aren't most athletes probably taking PEDs? I don't really know the specifics, maybe a lot of them are clean or are blissfully ignorant of what they're nutritionists are doing but it seems like the kind of thing that's more widespread than appearances suggest.
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Realistically aren't most athletes probably taking PEDs? I don't really know the specifics, maybe a lot of them are clean or are blissfully ignorant of what they're nutritionists are doing but it seems like the kind of thing that's more widespread than appearances suggest. I'd hesitate to say most, but a significant portion definitely are
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According to some of the boxingscene threads I've seen most boxing fans are on board with Pacquiao's opinions. Can't say I'm surprised. All those guys are doping. I used to think otherwise, but at this point I don't think any athlete is above suspicion.
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The Ninth Layer posted:According to some of the boxingscene threads I've seen most boxing fans are on board with Pacquiao's opinions. . lol
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The Ninth Layer posted:According to going outside I've seen most people are on board with Pacquiao's opinions. Can't say I'm surprised. ftfy
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so loving future posted:What are the best JMM fights? I feel like maybe I've asked before
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Realistically aren't most athletes probably taking PEDs? I don't really know the specifics, maybe a lot of them are clean or are blissfully ignorant of what they're nutritionists are doing but it seems like the kind of thing that's more widespread than appearances suggest. Pretty much everyone at the professional level are on some poo poo. The one's that don't are the exception, not the rule. The people that deny it after they've been popped are full of poo poo and the most popular athletes are too big to fail - for now. Check out this thread for a shitload of information (you might need archives though). Doping in Sports thread
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Wonderful Pistachios and Foot Locker both ended their deals with Pacquiao, with Foot Locker saying they have no plans to work with him ever again
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The Cosby Mysteries posted:Pretty much everyone at the professional level are on some poo poo. The one's that don't are the exception, not the rule. The people that deny it after they've been popped are full of poo poo and the most popular athletes are too big to fail - for now. Check out this thread for a shitload of information (you might need archives though). Wow at the baseball apologists in that thread. That's some funny poo poo.
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Lamont Peterson tested positive for synthetic testosterone and was cleared to fight lmao. boxing doesn't give a poo poo
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Well poo poo Frampton-Quigg is on Saturday (showtime extreme live and showtime for the replay for the us). Who's everyone got? Quigg is the slight betting favorite but feel like Frampton takes a close one.
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Frampton seems to be the favourite amoungst people who know poo poo about boxing
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Over here Frampton is comfortable favourite (8/13 against 6/4)
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The negotiations between Wilder and Povetkin's camp fell apart and now it's going to purse bid and we'll get to see who has the deeper pockets: PBC's investors, or Povetkin's oligarch backers. The most interesting thing about this to me is that apparently, Povetkin's promoter was aiming for co-promotion with Haymon and were willing to go to the states, but (if he's telling the truth) Haymon turned that down. If Povetkin's camp win the purse bid (and there's a good chance they will, they already set the record for purse bids to bring Wlad to Moscow), it'll be in Russia. So will Haymon let Wilder go to Russia?
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I'm a perpetual boxing optimist but I can't see Wilder vacating his belt. So yeah I'd say he goes to Russia. I also think he'll win.
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Boxing conspiracy theory #1: Povetkin's group wins the purse bid, Wilder drops the WBC belt and is crowned inaugural PBC champion after beating Dominic Brezale and fights Fury in the Fall. Boxing conspiracy theory #2: Keith Thurman is not actually injured and is leaving Al Haymon and will sign for huge money with Golden Boy in April/May. Fight in summer against the winner (or loser) of Ali/Vargas then PPV against Tim Bradley. I am not a crackpot but feel free to make this face as you read this post  EDIT: For the record I'm not crazy enough to think that Thurman staged a car accident to get out of the fight but it seemed like he never really wanted the Porter fight and he's been on record for longer than most that he would leave Haymon if he felt he had to. The SituAsian fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Feb 23, 2016 |
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I would be very surprised if Thurman jumped ship. He may be Haymon's best welterweight, I'd imagine Al would want to pay to keep him around. If he did jump it would be the beginning of the end for his PBC business model.
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Frampton seems to be the favourite amoungst people who know poo poo about boxing I'm travelling over to the fight from Belfast and it's nice hearing people not talking from their heart picking Frampton. Quigg is definitely the most dangerous opponent he's faced yet and I could see Quigg stopping him but I'm still calling Frampton to edge it in a war.
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MyChemicalImbalance posted:I'm travelling over to the fight from Belfast and it's nice hearing people not talking from their heart picking Frampton. Quigg is definitely the most dangerous opponent he's faced yet and I could see Quigg stopping him but I'm still calling Frampton to edge it in a war. I think most people see it as close. Scott Quigg is definitely the sort of hard worker that you can't count out. E: Apparently Arum wants to do a doubleheader of Lomachenko-Walters backed with Postol-some other guy but he's also hedged it with a "depending on what HBO wants" Jump King fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Feb 23, 2016 |
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Shucks, put Crawford on there vs Postol and it would be a pretty amazing HBO show.
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Crawford is fighting this weekend so it's a possibility, although I don't think it's likely that Crawford returns any earlier than June, and who knows if Arum wants to sit on Lomachenko and Postol for that long. I also get the impression Arum wants to sit on Crawford-Postol for a while and let it "marinate." Even with the Matthysse upset from last year I'm pretty sure most boxing fans don't know who Postol is yet.
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Do people have to know who he is? Isn't this what promos are for? A fight against Postol is way better than one against Hammerin' Hank Lundy.
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For these guys to make money, yeah people have to know who they are. Plus Postol is a risky fight for anybody, dude is undefeated and has beaten some good fighters. If I have Crawford and Postol in my stable, maybe I don't want to risk my more lucrative fighter Crawford losing to Postol in what could very well be an ugly technical spoiler match that doesn't net either guy new fans, sorta like what happened with Donaire and Rigondeaux a few years ago. Crawford is maybe 2 years away from being a pay-per-view level fighter. All it would take is seven more pounds and a fight against the winner of Pacquiao/Bradley, so realistically it could happen even faster. I'm not saying that means he will duck Postol all the way, but it might mean he doesn't go out of his way to fight Postol until there's some serious public interest in the match. I do agree that Crawford-Postlol is the best match that can be made at the weight, I think we will see it sometime in the fall. There's not much else for either guy at 140 at the moment, especially if Lucas Matthysse makes good on the rumors of him moving up to welterweight. The Ninth Layer fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Feb 24, 2016 |
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We should probably drum up a thread for all the fights happening this weekend. Frampton-Quigg, Huck-Afolabi, Crawford-Lundy and Santa Cruz-Martinez are the four main headliners but there are also some decent undercard fights and other events. Felix Verdejo is a top tier prospect fighting on the Crawford undercard, There's a 122 eliminator on the undercard of Frampton-Quigg, Cecilia Braekhus is considered by some to be the best female boxer and she's on the undercard of the Huck-Afolabi fight and finally if you're invested in the hunt for the next great american heavyweight prospect then maybe it's Gerald Washington fighting on the Santa Cruz- Martinez undercard.
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:this spring looks quite exciting though Seems like a load of poo poo to me. Porter against Thurman was the pick of the bunch and now even that's gone.
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I dunno, I feel like there is fairly watchable stuff all over Saturday. Next week isn't that bad either as Ortiz will probably do a cool KO. Losing Thurman/Porter is a pretty big bummer, but there have been worse springs it seems like. Things seem to pick up against once you get to April.
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I'm just happy I'll get to see Golovkin vs Knockout Victim Number 22 here in Los Angeles. Excited about Pac-Bradley III too although I'm still not sure if I'm going.
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I just wanted to chime in and say I'm also excited to be going to ggg/wade. I've never been to a fight at the forum either although I've heard it's a great venue for boxing.
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Thurman-Porter is just postponed, not canceled.
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http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/feb/24/professional-boxers-eligible-rio-olympicsquote:Professional boxers will become eligible to compete at the Rio Olympic Games under radical proposals being pushed through by the world governing body, Aiba. This would be bad imo
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