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THS
Sep 15, 2017

A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

Sorry I didn't mean that to come off so mean when I was pairing it with some trot humour

im just pointing out that self-education (or lack thereof) is less of a rational, conscious choice based on the limitless willpower of free minds and more of a very difficult thing for a lot of people who live in hellworld. class consciousness is low because the system is designed (or it’s a lucky after-effect for the ruling class) to grind your soul into the ground so the easy thing to handle is watching Iron Boy 4: Evil Warlocks of Thanos at the end of the day

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Slanderer
May 6, 2007
anyway check this out

GorgonLiker
Oct 7, 2018

Look me in the eyes, at least.

Slanderer posted:

no one has to read the books, they were written by losers. time to forge a new trail baby

i mean my favorite leftist book is Against His-story, Against Leviathan! so if you have a weird idiosyncratic new ideology to drop i would love to R E A D all about it

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Radical post-structuralism is disenfranchisement sold under a different name

GorgonLiker
Oct 7, 2018

Look me in the eyes, at least.
(to be clear i'm not an anarchoprimitivist i just love that dang book)

Slanderer posted:

anyway check this out




HIAWATHA WOULD PROBABLY BEG TO DIFFER WHAT THE gently caress

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
At the end of the day some nerd is always gonna be like "be smarter" and people are gonna be like "no it's boring" just like wierdos will be like "start doing dead lifts and squats now or DIE" and others be like "get off my case about being fat I'm sad".

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



Slanderer posted:

anyway check this out



Is that a Markov bot or a real person?

GorgonLiker
Oct 7, 2018

Look me in the eyes, at least.
"Indigeneity is inherently communal and anti-Empire"

whyyyyy then did the Tlaxcalans hate the Aztec SO much that when a bunch of scary, horrible smelling, diseased, pale skinned mutants with explosion sticks showed up on their beach they shrugged and marched on tenochtitlan????


like. "oh boy it sure is nice that a bunch of psychopaths with atlatl emerge from the jungle every year to take like half our poo poo and a bunch of our kids who we're pretty sure they will definitely gruesomely kill. it would suck if this were political or an 'empire' though lol"

GorgonLiker fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Oct 16, 2018

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Slanderer posted:

anyway check this out



What is to be done? New age religion obviously!

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

GorgonLiker posted:

"Indigeneity is inherently communal and anti-Empire"

whyyyyy then did the Tlaxcalans hate the Aztec SO much that when a bunch of scary, horrible smelling, diseased, pale skinned mutants with explosion sticks showed up on their beach they shrugged and marched on tenochtitlan????

Don't forget the notoriously peaceful indigenous peoples of Europe

Terrorist Fistbump
Jan 29, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:

Is that a Markov bot or a real person?

That's just what most people who use the word "decolonial" sound like.

GorgonLiker
Oct 7, 2018

Look me in the eyes, at least.

steinrokkan posted:

Don't forget the notoriously peaceful indigenous peoples of Europe

*looks up from this tweet and blows on a pipe intelligently*

actually when the indigenous mongolians erupted from their homeland on a campaign of slaughter and subjugation that wouldn't be matched until the twentieth century it was incredibly dope and good because they weren't european

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
That poo poo is all Fake News

GorgonLiker
Oct 7, 2018

Look me in the eyes, at least.

A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

That poo poo is all Fake News

you, a russian peasant, say as you are crushed to death with hundreds of your fellows while a bunch of tatars do dressage on a platform on top of you

Serf
May 5, 2011


Slanderer posted:

no one has to read the books, they were written by losers. time to forge a new trail baby

the books are incredibly boring and written like poo poo from a modern perspective. you could gussy em up a bit

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

steinrokkan posted:

Don't forget the notoriously peaceful indigenous peoples of Europe

The ones that except for the Basques, were all subjugated by the invading Proto-Indo-Europeans?

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.
Imagine having your mind so colonized you think Europeans invented politics

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Also whites aren't indigenous to anywhere except Yakub's cavern laboratory

GorgonLiker
Oct 7, 2018

Look me in the eyes, at least.

A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

Also whites aren't indigenous to anywhere except Yakub's cavern laboratory

Grimoire
Jul 9, 2003

Slanderer posted:

anyway check this out



second option bias dot tee ecks tee

Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said

THS posted:

im just pointing out that self-education (or lack thereof) is less of a rational, conscious choice based on the limitless willpower of free minds and more of a very difficult thing for a lot of people who live in hellworld. class consciousness is low because the system is designed (or it’s a lucky after-effect for the ruling class) to grind your soul into the ground so the easy thing to handle is watching Iron Boy 4: Evil Warlocks of Thanos at the end of the day

exactly. when you work retail or some other lovely hourly position you spend pretty much your entire day daydreaming of getting drunk or high after work so it stops feeling like someone's beating your feet with a rolling pin and so you can stop being worried about getting fired for a few hours. and that's the best case scenario where no one depends on you.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Plutonis posted:

The ones that except for the Basques, were all subjugated by the invading Proto-Indo-Europeans?

Nobody is indigenous then.

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

lenin's three components of marxism is good poo poo. short, not hard. check it out.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1913/mar/x01.htm

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

you could also read settlers dot org :twisted:

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

oh and speaking of books i am slowly making my way through hobsbawm's Age Of series and it's good as hell. someone told me to read bandits and that will be next.

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

books are kinda like podcasts once you get used to them, except you don't have jokey people pretending to be your friend or whatever. they're cool. ok bye

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

*steps into open manhole and falls down into a sewer*

oh are we doing the whole book/anti-book thing again

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Are there any socialist audiobooks

GorgonLiker
Oct 7, 2018

Look me in the eyes, at least.

steinrokkan posted:

Are there any socialist audiobooks

https://www.marxists.org/audiobooks/

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Victory Position posted:

*steps into open manhole and falls down into a sewer*

oh are we doing the whole book/anti-book thing again

dont read just post

BUSH 2112
Sep 17, 2012

I lie awake, staring out at the bleakness of Megadon.

Zas posted:

lenin's three components of marxism is good poo poo. short, not hard. check it out.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1913/mar/x01.htm

that was cool and good. i should probably read more actual communist theory, tho honestly just living through late capitalism is in itself the best argument for communism for anyone who isn't a blood-drinking sociopath.

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

i get plenty of theory by keeping party music on heavy rotation while i drive around for work

Slanderer
May 6, 2007
reading is only important when it's about:

1) science and mathematics
2) urban fantasy wizard detectives

economics is neither science nor math, politics is fantasy but not the good kind.

Zhulik
Nov 14, 2012

The Montreal Star
if you think about it posts are just very small books

GorgonLiker
Oct 7, 2018

Look me in the eyes, at least.
Please Read Books

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Ufff, read by some high pitched nerdlinger and recorded on what sounds like a cell phone mic

hard pass

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Slanderer posted:

reading is only important when it's about :

1) science and mathematics
2) urban fantasy wizard detectives

economics is neither science nor math, politics is fantasy but not the good kind.

the immortal science

GorgonLiker
Oct 7, 2018

Look me in the eyes, at least.

steinrokkan posted:

Ufff, read by some high pitched nerdlinger and recorded on what sounds like a cell phone mic

hard pass

jesus loving christ is this how all my fit friends feel when i flop on the ground and whine about exercise. here's a DIFFERENT one that i found with five seconds of loving googling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=channel?UCvfeZJmLFo2o90A0v3ce2_Q?videos

and another: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=channel?UCaO1QA8QL99_eb0XhJI2Fyw?videos

GorgonLiker fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Oct 16, 2018

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
I don't really want recommendations, I was just curious. I don't have an issue with reading actual text. Also your links are broken.

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jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

the thing about reading gains is you dont even have to keep doing it to retain them which makes them even easier than deadlifts

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