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GalacticAcid posted:I am hoping someone can recommend some reading on the radical experimentation underway in Jackson, MS. here's a nice longform article http://www.oxfordamerican.org/item/1296-the-socialist-experiment
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Wheeee posted:2019: Immortal Technique starts hanging out with Jeff Bezos lmao
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ScrubLeague posted:system of a down is basically the logical follow-up to rage against the machine with more annoying music ratm is pretty cool tho
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the worst thing about rtj is that el-p went from producing some really left field beats to doing whatever he's doing now. if he went back to his old production style and just let killer mike rap they'd own
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tekz posted:how come all these online leftists seem to spend all their time tearing down other leftists out of respect for tradition
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Jun 5, 2018 04:49
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this isn't the cursed images thread
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lollontee posted:I wonder what the maryland prisoners thought of the labour theory of value they know the tssi is correct
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GalacticAcid posted:leftistly assuming that classic non-satiation models are correct lol please elaborate. it has got to be more interesting than this rudatron/pener slapfight over semantics
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Jun 15, 2018 18:13
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one of the cool things about analytic philosophy is when they make the distinction between two different senses of a word, using subscripts. 'demand(subscript1)' = blahblahblah 'demand(subscript2)' = blahblahblah
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Jun 16, 2018 07:24
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gradenko_2000 posted:wouldn't just in time manufacturing allow for a planned economy where you never overproduce paperclips but also don't run into a situation where the region/country/world doesn't run out of paperclips halfway through the planning period due to an unforeseen circumstance since digitalization of the process allows for real time adjustment of production targets depends on how planning is organized, how knowledge flows through the system, and whether any given planner should believe (purported) 'knowledge' flowing to them and vice versa for the workers
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Jun 16, 2018 07:47
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Are you saying that you're being intentionally annoying because you don't like the way I used a word? you're both loving stupid because you don't realize that there's more than one (semantic) sense that can be attached to the exact same string of characters
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Jun 16, 2018 07:49
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[pener, with a fishing rod]: eeyyyyy, i'm goin' down to the BANK [rudatron]: well you owe me money, so i expect you'll be payin me back tonight when i sees ya [pener]: nah, i'm going to THE BANK. by the river, to catch some fish [rudatron]: THE BANK's where money comes frmo, you loving MORON [pener]: hold on, while i type a hundred words or so
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these last couple pages remind me why i just read books and don't bother talking to anyone lol
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seriously, dont loving own me for trolling the most hosed up trollable thread
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Jun 16, 2018 09:55
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how about instead of 'sectarian' it's 'sextarian,' the kind of faction that likes to gently caress. just a thought
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Jun 18, 2018 07:16
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apropos to nothing posted:no, that sounds like you are taking the correct approach. not sure what party/org youre with but generally standing in elections should be happening only once you have sufficient independent working class organization. running in them without that first will waste time and resources. thats an important distinction cause while its ludicrous to reject bourgeois elections full stop, there are groups which see running in elections as a way to build movements and organization, but the reality is they are an expression and consequence of organization. i think i agree with what you and kudaros are saying about how to approach the electoral system: it's always going to be a contextual decision. you have to factor in both the level of already-existing leftist power in the area that an electoral campaign could draw on, as well as opportunities that that area's electoral situation presents to a socialist candidate. but, i do want to push back on the notion that running in elections cannot be a way to build movements and organizations. let's take AOC's election as a concrete example. the consequences of her win--beyond the almost-guaranteed congressional seat--have been an influx of resources to the DSA. i saw some brooklyn DSA person on twitter say that their latest meeting had like 50% brand new faces, and i've seen posts about people joining the org or donating money because of her victory. i take this to mean that engaging in electoral politics and winning can help build power for explicitly socialist movements and organizations. ofc, running a campaign has a low likelihood of winning is just going to waste resources. but, as stated above, that's why the decision is highly contextual Finicums Wake fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Jun 29, 2018 |
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GalacticAcid posted:https://twitter.com/aseeestudies/status/1012770192630349826 cspam is, literally, post-communism. at least in one sense
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i used to think the application of cybernetics to central planning was just a gimmick, like trying to shore up a fundamentally unsound structure with newfangled bullshit*. but, if somenoe can set up a direct connection between a poster's brain and the planning system, then i think everything will work out. for that reason, i consider all of my fellow posters to be co-leaders of the revolutionary vanguard, with me at the helm ofc. *i'm taking math at community college, so this might be the worng take
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rudatron posted:mathematical historical determinism, of psychohistory check out Peter Turchin (or the academic field he's trying to start called cliodynamics), because as far as i can tell it's exacrtly this. haven't gotten my hands on one of his actual books tho, so mb i'm wrong + it sucks
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Kudaros posted:Choice of tactic also tends to decide who your audience is. Running elections here, I can draw plenty of caricatures of who votes in the primaries. Tenant union organizing and affordable housing campaigns puts you in contact with a different segment of society. It also builds lasting relationships. This may be less true in NYC, but it is the *rule* in a lot of places. Some drama took place last year that I don't want to get too into, but basically a failure to have a decent conversation about this lead to co-optation followed by collapse of an effort I had poured my life into. drat dude, i'm sorry to hear about that. especially if things fell apart because leftist people couldn't talk openly and strategize, rather than just the situation itself being too far tilted against whatever strategy you guys were stuck running + putting effort into one part of the reason i lean towards electoralism (on a contextual basis) is the kinds of responses i've seen from an extremely similiar, though more liberal-leaning forum. i quit reading it a few months ago because, after the trump election, it was filled with unrepentant hillary people blaming everyone besides the candidate or themselves for trump's election. but, i checked in two days ago, and saw overwhelmingly positive response for AOC's win. people saying they signed up to DSA or even IWW, in response to feeling that leftist strategists are viable and necessary given the situation. for people that already think DSA isn't far left enough or disagree with a big-tent approach, i'm sure hearing that some left-liberals are joining these orgs can be easily dismissed. but i do think that a lot of already-engaged liberal activists can be persuaded to become actual socialiststs, and that successful electoralism can push them in that direction
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quote:Ocasio-Cortez’s duplicity and political opportunism brand her—and the DSA—as reactionary instruments of the oppressors and exploiters of the working class and youth. lol
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finally got around to reading the black socialists' of america statement that they delivered to AOC. apparently she was receptive and the meeting went well  https://twitter.com/BlackSocialists/status/1022555720196206592
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Jul 27, 2018 08:38
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rudatron posted:basic face to face stuff like this has gotta be important, if only to remind these new 'rising stars' where they come from, and who helped them get where they are. yeah, definitely. the BSA's statement struck me as more than basic tho--it struck a good balance between criticism and, for lack of a better word, comradeliness. and while it's no assurance on its own, the fact that the BSA came away from the meeting feeling good about it relieves some of my worries about AOC that ppl raised earlier ITT
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R. Guyovich posted:bsa kind of suck tbh otoh, i get linked to some cool poo poo by following their twitter. on the other, they seem overly reliant on co-ops. not sure whether they push co-ops as a transitional demand or as an end goal  why do you say they suck?
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ShriekingMarxist posted:plz rate review my Overwatch character political tendencies: mercy's a soc dem with anti-imperialist foreign policy leanings rein's a reactionary, nostalgic for feudalism zen's a political quietist, focusing his efforts on individual, rather than collective, advancement dva's a nationalist moira's a techno-libertarian who believes in HBD junkrat's antifa
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Enjoy posted:He very clearly pointed to democracy yeah, the recent posts are not even engaging matty b's arguments. idk if that means he's right, but these are 'not even wrong' type of responses
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iirc they're connected to cooperation jackson so they're cool, to me
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Question Friend posted:God I knew so many retards who were into Stirner last year. Glad that died down i thought it was just a meme
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in my experience, the best way to engage an author and evaluate their thoughts are by means of image macros, especially ones containing The Feels Guy
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read adolf reed jr
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gradenko_2000 posted:redistribution of wealth is necessarily going to be non-universal because you're obviously not going to include the people that you're taking poo poo from, in the list of people that you're redistributing poo poo towards. yeah but doing it along solely racial linea is kinda dumb imo. or if it's not going to be done solely along racial lines, using the rhetoric of reparations seems like a bad strategy
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Jan 8, 2019 08:45
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gradenko_2000 posted:the taking was done along racial lines. if you think the only unethical transfer of wealth in american history was along racial lines you're just a woke, ta nehisi coates style lib
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if you accept that any just redistribution of wealth will take into account both race and class then we're back at square one where reparations discourse is a dead end
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:it's a "dead end" because it's supposed that whites wouldn't tolerate any kind of development program that doesn't benefit themselves specifically. like, a revitalization program in a black neighborhood isn't going to benefit whites, so are we supposed to assume it shouldn't happen because it's reparative? i think you could get these kinds of programs implemented if bundled or subsumed under a broadwr program that will benefit the working class as a whole. but if you think whites will tolerate, let alone pass reparataions, simpliciter, then...read settlers lol
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gradenko_2000 posted:I didn't say that. Some of it wasn't, but some of it very clearly was. agreed. but the politics of reparations homes in on the part that very clearly was, and since there's no group/coalition with the desire and, crucially, ability to fix that aspect of the broder problem, and only that aspect, any form of politics which homes in on that aspect to the exclusion of the broader problem is a dead end
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smarxist posted:sorry my only conception of reparations is ashy Larry saying "I'm rich bitch!" on Chapelle show and the idea of it makes my blood boil so obviously the whole thing is a dead end ah, makes sense. check out adolf reed jr. hope that helps
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