G.C. Furr III posted:

SirJonnyMcDonald: As you were willing to give one of Stalin's major works a read, you have naturally come to realise the eneormous contradiction between what stalin wrote and what we are told he did. I, and im sure many western marxist-leninists including forums posters here were not all born as "Stalinists", many of us discovered things exactly through trying to resolve the contradiction you are trying to. Either Stalin was a schizophrenic who wrote thousands of pages on freedom, socialism, democracy and everyone being nice to each other while happily murdering millions as a dictator just because, or actually stalin was not the tyrant western anti-communist historiography (naturally) tries to paint him as and that the axiomatically accepted statements about the USSR are part of booj propaganda to defend its own system.

If you are interested in the democracy question in th USSR u might as well read some grover furr on stalin' attempts to democratise the soviet union, short read, fully referenced, v good: http://clogic.eserver.org/2005/furr.html

general stuff on lies about the soviet union: http://www.northstarcompass.org/nsc9912/lies.htm

G.C. Furr III posted:

If you are interested in the democracy question in th USSR u might as well read some grover furr on stalin' attempts to democratise the soviet union, short read, fully referenced, v good: http://clogic.eserver.org/2005/furr.html

rudatron posted:

If your biggest category is misc, I think you've hosed up on the survey.

Urbandale posted:

platypus explicitly calls itself a combat organization against the organized left, and also does nothing but organize reading groups. im friends with people inside the org, but im not surprised when they tell me they cant do things - thats the attitude that organization has towards activity entirely, not just fruitless days of action. most members havent done anything other than sit at conference or go to a protest.

Homework Explainer posted:

i floated the idea. will probably spend most of my time in china or vietnam tbh

asdf32 posted:

My company has a list for how many vacation days you get following a family member death. Is there something similar relating the number of decades of totalitarian murder that are allowed following revolution, war loss etc. I'd like to see it in writing. Like do the nazis get a free pass for the loss of WWI and Versailles? Or had they run out of time?

Atrocious Joe posted:

From the point of view of worker organizing in the US I'm not aware of anyone who knows how to fight Chinese owners. You can't exactly picket them.

Atrocious Joe posted:

The meat packing plant guys were undocumented so technically not american

I guess I meant more directly target the owners. McDonald's get's a Fight for $15 protest every year at their headquarters right now. Can't really do that in Biejing.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/oak-brook/news/ct-dob-mcdonalds-protest-tl-0602-20160525-story.html

Typo posted:

oh yeah I forgot I'm talking to Hexplainer I'm pretty sure if he sees a Chinese sweatshop where 90% of the profits goes to 1-2 owners but the factory has a hammer and sickle drawn on it and the law book says something something this factory in some theoretical abstract way belongs to people's government he's gonna cheer on the 1-2 owners as glorious people's revolutionary economic Stakhanov or something

JeffersonClay posted:

USSR made and widely deployed depleted uranium tank cannon ammo. Also Chernobyl ffs.

Deimus posted:

Why are you claiming that a socialist would want anything different than progress when you already got real answers.


Democrats don't care about you or unions.

Homework Explainer posted:

seriously, join an organization and engage in action. building local orgs and creating mass coalitions from those is the only way forward. the democrats have no answers but the ones which were crushed last night. join a god damned organization

Atrocious Joe posted:

https://twitter.com/Rhizzone_Txt/status/796369258116747265

Homework Explainer posted:

i'm not kidding, though. i couldn't give a poo poo about your position on any period of soviet history or the correct anti-imperialist line or whatever. i'm with the people, and any help we can get in what's gonna be a long, difficult battle will be appreciated.

join an org. join an org. join an org.

http://www.pslweb.org/join
http://www.workers.org/wwp/join/
http://www.foodnotbombs.net/new_site/volunteer.php
http://www.newsds.org/p/get-involved.html

Karl Barks posted:

if you're not feeling canvassing or those types of outreach(which honestly we all post on a internet comedy forum so...), DONATE MONEY. seriously, anything to help these organizations grow is really important.

Larry Parrish posted:

I unironically think that unless there is massive upheaval in the DNC, PSL and the other socialist parties could win house seats in 2018 if they play up how the DNC and GOP have abandoned them. Especially if they do poo poo like free food drives or soup kitchens or what have you to actually help people instead of merely vacuuming up campaign donations to dump into TV ads like neoliberals always do

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Liberals are learning a lot in the autopsy thread. It's places like D&D and r/EnoughSandersSpam where the most delusional have retreated to comfort themselves in an echo chamber.

Larry Parrish posted:

drat you progressives for not supporting the establishment unconditionally


The big problem with liberals, other than being so willing to accept corporatists and technocrats, is how they really think everyone on be left is required to agree and vote with the Democrats just because they're the only major party that supposedly caters to them

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Link? I don't have it in me tonight, but I'll hang sometime.

Atrocious Joe posted:

Pop culture criticism is apparently going to be more divisive for the younger generations than opinions on the Holodomor

Larry Parrish posted:

As retarded as war tourism is, it's hard to hate someone who puts their money where their mouth is.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Murder Bryan?

Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:

What thread do you think you're posting in?

Dead Cosmonaut posted:

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

oh boy jacobins livestreaming a party!

VirtualStranger posted:

Not my precious silver mines! How will I ever survive without exploiting the poor slave labor of my country!? Now I have to work for a living like a filthy prole?

Homework Explainer posted:

hes gonna get a book deal lmao