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Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Kegslayer posted:

Every season should start off with Rip Hunter giving the same speech to another set of scrubs that he's about to feed to the meat grinder :black101:

For any recurring characters, he can grab them five minutes before the last time he did so.

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Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Adder Moray posted:

Meanwhile, how many brilliant inventors have there been in the history of the world that barely anyone can remember because the things they made weren't paradigm shifts.

If anyone wants to hear about these kinds of things, I reccommend How We Got to Now, either the book or the PBS series. Haven't read the book yet, but the series is sorta like Connections but with a focus on a specific kind of technology rather than an unbroken chain of innovation. An episode on light (from early attempts at lightbulbs to neon to fiber-optics), one on cold (why refrigeration is such a big deal), et cetera. It points out some people who are forgotten by history because they had the right idea at the wrong time, or identified the problem but the tools to solve it wouldn't be along for 50 years. Fascinating stuff.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

So if Hawkman is dead twice in 1975, how does that affect his resurrection?
*cut to Flash/Arrow crossover episode*
"Shaira, we are destined to be together!" "No Shaira, WE are destined to be together!"

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Okay, so the Hawks are fighting Savage, leaving the rest of the people to sit around. HAVE SOME GOONS!

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Savage's threat, aside from skills he's picked up over multiple lifetimes, is patience. You can stop him today but he'll be back tomorrow, or better yet he'll be somewhere else tomorrow and you won't know until it's too late. Bury him in an avalanche, drop him in a volcano, it's only a matter of time.

That's kinda hard to convey in a 2-hour episode.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

lotus circle posted:

I don't normally watch leaks, but it's really CTV's fault for airing this four days early than the American broadcast.

Why did they do this, some sort of Superbowl competition or just an odd decision?

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Brace yourselves for another week of Prison Break jokes. As if we've ever gone a week without them since Wentworth Miller first showed up on Flash.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Bad Moon posted:

There's gonna be a dance fight and look how dumb you'll be :colbert:

Give her a stick and fight some goons with that move. It can be like Roy's flips.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

WarLocke posted:

I was thinking more that Rip going back in time to stop Vandal is instrumental in Vandal taking over the world in 2166. It would be a Terminator (1) type closed-loop paradox.

The opening murder scene DID have a "coward like your father" line, which could be a random taunt about him not being there but takes a new context with all this time-hopping.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

M_Gargantua posted:

I'm glad i'm not the only one who has been pushing this.

Everyone has been pushing this ever since Arrow/Flash got so many actors with singing experience. And one from Glee.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Tell me about the rabbits, Leonard.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Well, that was painfully racist. Par for the course, though.

E: I mean the time period, not the show.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

X-O posted:

Brandon Routh let slip in some DC promotional video that one of the crew isn't who we think they are. Whatever that means.

We know Rip Hunter isn't his real name, so maybe he's Booster Gold.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

Felicity back in the wheelchair. Probably just a delayed episode but I hope someone broke her spine again.

"It turns out the implant is powered by love. You need to get back together with Oliver."

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

There are little bits, like in Russia "Ah, Gareeb." "That's Captain Hunter to you!" he gave a little "I'll remember that" smirk, but we don't get a chance to see things like that pay off. Yet anyway. Since the Legends are the ones doing the hunting the show can't really use the main benefit of an immortal enemy: he just keeps coming.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Rhyno posted:

So now Ray has a previously unmentioned twin brother?

Doesn't everyone? I know I do.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Rhyno posted:

I'd hope that "season 2" is actually an unconnected show complete with a new name and cast.


Except for Ray.

The Prison Break reunion show is actually LoT season 2.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Tiggum posted:

but wasn't Carmen Sandiego about a group of kids tracking down a criminal by learning geography facts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ8tbKar3lg it's no Rockapella but still...

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Krad posted:

I'm okay with Mick ending every episode telling everyone how much they should be making GBS threads their pants because they sent another assassin better than the last one that got fried in less than 5 minutes.

He can't do that, Pilgrim just shot him.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Bad Moon posted:

If it becomes super hero power rangers I'm ok with that.

"Gideon! Savage has escaped! Recruit us some loser superheroes with expendability!"

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Rhyno posted:

Hot Tomahawk would be a good band name.

Needs to be a bunch of white guys in really racist Native costume who don't know the difference between "making a joke" and "being part of the problem."

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Longbaugh01 posted:

What I was at least sort of hoping for was that they'd get to the Vanishing Point and the reveal would be that a far-future-end-of-time Savage was actually in charge of the Time Masters all along, and no one, not Rip, not even Savage himself, knew it.

If you shave off Savage's beard, he does look rather like the Master Time Master.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Longbaugh01 posted:

Oh and "Barry Allen 2056"!

"So 2016 me is doing stupid time stuff and thanks to Speedforce I can't do anything about it. Could you go smack him upside the head a few times?"

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Man, the show starts airing in ten minutes and there's zero hype.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

howe_sam posted:

But Einstein had jack poo poo to do with the bomb.

I am raging so hard right now.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

FactsAreUseless posted:

I kept waiting for them to say that Einstein's ex-wife was Marie Curie.

Don't worry, I had the same gut reaction.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Sir Potato posted:

Sara is the best, always has been. I don't know much about these new people and I've never read comics before. Who are all these people? I don't really know what to look up and the Justice Leagues and Societies have usually gone through like 20 lineups over time.

Stargirl -- has a staff that gives her powers
Dr Mid-Nite -- blind but can see in the dark
Vixen -- amulet channels the attributes of animals
Obsidian -- shadow powers
Hourman -- has pills that make him superstrong for an hour
Commander Steel -- cyborg Captain America

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Senerio posted:

Fixed that for you. All Mick wants to do is roast history's greatest boogeymen.

Legends of Tomorrow -- "I LOVE burning Nazis!"

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

So this season we've had:
Nazis kidnap Einstein to build a nuke.
Nazis get a supersoldiermutant serum.
Evil Samurai lord vs future ronin
Confederate zombies

This show has embraced the stupid and it is wonderful.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

MiddleOne posted:

Yeah but if they can just tack on an additional 4 episodes mid-production then that means that there's really no plot for this season, like at all.

That's a good thing.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

I was really worried that episode was going to end with "man don't tell Clarissa when you get home, she'll be pissed." "...who?"

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Rocksicles posted:

He's what.... a ton of solid Steel? vs 400 tons of forward momentum.

Plus the dwarf star.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Mr Beens posted:

I love that they left half a dozen goons to die in the mine explosion/cave in.

We deserve nothing less.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

"You guys really are Earth's mightiest heroes." No Kara, that's the Avengers.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

His poll numbers were really low, the party had been looking for a way to make it happen for a while.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

How about the part where he actually said "usually this is lethal, but I've adjusted it so it should just hurt a lot." That pretty much answers why Stein survived it. Did nobody else get that line in their version of the episode?

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Narcissus1916 posted:

I know someone said this is all Flashpoint related (like everything else in this goddamn universe), but is this the same Thawne who just randomly showed up midway in season 2 of The Flash?

That one was this one, but from a time before he killed Barry's mom.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

FELD1 posted:

I just wanted to pop in and say that this thread's title being incorrect is incredibly fitting for this show, and we should never change it. I've grown accustomed to thinking of the show as Legends to Tomorrow.

It's a time aberration. The show will fix it by the end of the third season.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

nooneofconsequence posted:

what's with the week off?

Flash is doing a two-fer. One gorilla nation under Grodd.

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Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

howe_sam posted:

Flash is also taking next week off.

Oh. Then I donno what's going on. Wait, if they do two hours on the 21st, is Legends airing late?

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