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Huh. Has Hull Reinforcement ever helped against aggressive fauna? I've been playing this game how many years under that impression?
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Zesty posted:Huh. Has Hull Reinforcement ever helped against aggressive fauna? I've been playing this game how many years under that impression? I didn't think it was possible to have fauna actually directly, purposely attack your base. AFAIK, the hull reinforcement is for structural integrity while building.
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Mar 2, 2024 01:16
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:I didn't think it was possible to have fauna actually directly, purposely attack your base. In BZ Squidsharks in the Lillypad Islands would periodically poke holes in my base
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Mar 2, 2024 01:25
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The biggest threat from the environment to a base in this game is if you built close enough to one of those thorn plants that it’s trying to shoot at you while you’re inside. Hill Reinforcement sections don’t help with that though, they are for sure just to balance integrity and make having windows more of a pain in the rear end.
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Mar 2, 2024 05:05
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Yeah the game has a bit of a weird thing where to make your base look nice with lots of glass you have to make part of it look like poo poo with reinforcements and foundations. I try to cover my foundations with grow beds to make them look purposeful and pretty and then hide 3-4 reinforcements in weird corners where the view wouldn’t be nice. But one large room glass roof will really gently caress your hull integrity
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Mar 2, 2024 05:24
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Generally I have my power rooms/towers be the ones that are reinforced everywhere to provide hull integrity for everything else. It feels thematic to me.
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Mar 2, 2024 05:28
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Complications posted:Generally I have my power rooms/towers be the ones that are reinforced everywhere to provide hull integrity for everything else. It feels thematic to me. Yeah it works for the nuclear reactor room. Like, obviously these reinforcements are to prevent radiation from damaging the environment.
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Mar 2, 2024 05:33
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:I didn't think it was possible to have fauna actually directly, purposely attack your base. No, the vehicle upgrade. 
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Mar 2, 2024 07:15
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Zesty posted:No, the vehicle upgrade. It doesn't lower damage you take from attacks or upgrade your hull, it just lowers collision damage by 50%
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Mar 2, 2024 07:49
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Mar 2, 2024 07:50
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Tom Tucker posted:Yeah the game has a bit of a weird thing where to make your base look nice with lots of glass you have to make part of it look like poo poo with reinforcements and foundations. If integrity works like power, something really stupid you could do is have a basically disconnected chunk of your base far, far away in a corner somewhere and just smother that in reinforcements. As long as it was on the same snappy grid when it was placed, it's the same base, even if no directly connecting components exist or ever existed. In Below Zero I have a base inside a vent garden at however many hundreds of m depth that gets solar power because I extended the base grid with temporary tubes all the way to the top in many steps and have a single tube with like five solar panels at the surface, I imagine I could do that with structural integrity as well. I can't imagine it being practical but it's stupid enough that I felt compelled to suggest it.
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Mar 2, 2024 09:22
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 What's up with pipes not going further than 50m when I can see everywhere AND remember that they used to have infinite range? This is BZ. They're already questionable utility. But if this is a balancing change, it's made them totally useless.
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Mar 3, 2024 03:55
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Zesty posted:... it's made them totally useless. Correct!
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So I'm doing another playthrough after a pretty good break, and my three biggest takeaways are: 1) I don't know if it's a feature that got added later, but "cinematic mode" makes things look great during the day but loving impossible to see anything at night. I was getting really frustrated until I found that setting in the options and turned it off. 2) The Prawn suit can go gently caress itself, it's a great idea terminally hampered by godawful collision mechanics. I really tried to like it, but ultimately I added some mods to give the Seamoth Prawn arms and more depth modules and it makes life 1000x better. 3) I still maintain that the Sea Empress has the highest ratio of character development to spoken lines of any video game character ever (though maybe in close competition with Outer Wilds). It's really impressive how much they manage to convey with just a few short sequences.
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I use the Seamoth depth modules also. Problem is that the big guy down there can take you out in one glancing hit and you will still need/want the drill for the green power crystals.
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Mar 9, 2024 04:14
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Wingnut Ninja posted:2) The Prawn suit can go gently caress itself, it's a great idea terminally hampered by godawful collision mechanics. I really tried to like it, but ultimately I added some mods to give the Seamoth Prawn arms and more depth modules and it makes life 1000x better. I mean, I won't lie that it gets frustrating to have glitches and clipping issues happen, and I lost a prawn because it got stuck under a mushroom like Austin Powers trying to a cart around in a hallway. But goddamn if spidermanning off a sea dragon to get into the facility isn't crazy amazing.
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Mar 9, 2024 05:00
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I've never tried using mods in Subnautica, but I was reminded of DeathRun which I only discovered after it had gotten broken from an update. Just found out in the making of this post that someone redid it: DeathRun Remade
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Mar 9, 2024 05:46
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Wingnut Ninja posted:So I'm doing another playthrough after a pretty good break, and my three biggest takeaways are: Cinematic Mode really makes the bioluminescence pop during the night, but yeah, you absolutely need a light source on the player to see anything in an area that isn't directly lit by said bioluminescence.
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Mar 9, 2024 06:21
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Pander posted:Skill issue spotted. That just makes it worse in a way, because you go from "I AM LORD OF THE OCEAN, MASTER OF THE DEEPS, NONE CAN STOP ME" to "oh no I bumped into a mushroom and came to a complete halt". And maybe it's just in my head but it feels like collision in general is jankier than it used to be, even getting around my base on my own two human feet. Like there's literally a spot on a growbed where I can't reach it with my knife to harvest seeds (there's not a crouch button somewhere that I'm missing, right?). I can pick the melons by hand, but they're just out of range of the knife, so I just stand there slashing at the air above them, silently cursing my unbendable knees.
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Mar 9, 2024 14:15
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Wingnut Ninja posted:And maybe it's just in my head but it feels like collision in general is jankier than it used to be, even getting around my base on my own two human feet. Like there's literally a spot on a growbed where I can't reach it with my knife to harvest seeds (there's not a crouch button somewhere that I'm missing, right?). I can pick the melons by hand, but they're just out of range of the knife, so I just stand there slashing at the air above them, silently cursing my unbendable knees. I only started playing this game in 2021, but this has been a thing since at least then. I cut the close ones, and grab the farther ones. I don't even think about it anymore, it's second-nature because I've been doing it for so long, due to the lack of crouch and weird collision. Definitely not a new thing.
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Mar 9, 2024 14:54
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Yeah, I don't think they've made any changes to the game engine or anything, so I guess I just forgot just how sketchy the movement and collision mechanics were. Dry movement definitely feels like they got it to a "just good enough to be functional" state and moved on because it's such a small part of the overall game. Hopefully doing the sequel in a proper engine will be significantly better.
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Mar 9, 2024 22:28
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Wingnut Ninja posted:That just makes it worse in a way, because you go from "I AM LORD OF THE OCEAN, MASTER OF THE DEEPS, NONE CAN STOP ME" to "oh no I bumped into a mushroom and came to a complete halt". Your point is it’s stupid. It is stupid. Here’s the workaround. Try jumping and slicing as you land. You get low enough on the land to connect.
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First DeathRun
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Zesty posted:First DeathRun It's definitely a little weird starting a new game and being limited to your own lungs after you're used to rolling around with an ultra high capacity tank. Anyway, I gave Below Zero a new try after not getting very far the first time back in the day. One of the things that made me quit last time was that I never found the base builder tool. This time around I got it, but it's frustrating how a lot of critical things are gated by schematics being in only one spot or a very few number of spots. Overall it's kind of a hit and miss experience. I like a lot of the additions and changes; the sea truck is a neat concept that can switch between zippy little seamoth-alike and a less obnoxious cyclops replacement. Being able to strap the prawn to your back to get around the map quickly is fantastic synergy. And between the smaller map and tweaked fabrication recipes, it's a lot less annoying to track down and restock materials that you need. On the other hand, everything above water is awful. The snowfox is garbage, and all the twisty canyon areas are very samey-feeling, not very interesting, and confusing to navigate around. The temperature mechanic doesn't really add the same tactical exploration balance that oxygen limitations cause, it's just an annoying thing to manage like a faster depleting food or water meter. Right now I'm just kind of wandering around trying to track down alien caches and figure out what exactly where the plot is going. The "find out what happened to your sister" motivation feels kind of tenuous, but maybe I need to dig into the logs I've been picking up a little more. It's annoying that most of the time when you find a log you can't stop to read it right there because you're limited by oxygen.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:It's annoying that most of the time when you find a log you can't stop to read it right there because you're limited by oxygen.
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Somebody might have mentioned it previously but Pacific Drive has been giving me faint Subnautica (and even outer wilds) vibes. The exploration in a fully customisable vehicle, the spooky vibes and threats coming from the environment itself… it’s not a perfect game but I would encourage anybody lurking in this thread to check it out.
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I really enjoyed Pacific Drive. I have some light criticisms around the final act and story but they might just be personal. Definitely worth checking out — My Summer Car meets STALKER with some light Simon Stalenhag vibes.
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Sassy Sasquatch posted:Somebody might have mentioned it previously but Pacific Drive has been giving me faint Subnautica (and even outer wilds) vibes. The exploration in a fully customisable vehicle, the spooky vibes and threats coming from the environment itself… it’s not a perfect game but I would encourage anybody lurking in this thread to check it out.
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Pacific Drive is a very chill experience on the default settings, I've only died once and it was on a story mission at night where I messed up and had to drive without lights. I think the progression and pacing is a little off, with regards to the workshop upgrades like the highway shortcuts and there's definitely a point where nothing can really threaten you even in the inner zone, but I think that'll change in a new playthrough if I crank up the difficulty.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:
One thing I would have loved to see was a computer which could unlock blueprints. Like it looks at your progression and figures out what tech level you’re at. It would “defrag your library of blueprints” or some technobabble, but it would allow you to get everything, maybe in exchange for some resource. Reason I am suggesting this is I have never had a play through where I have found everything. In one I never found beacons. I don’t think I have ever unlocked the Cyclops without cheating.
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I found, at least in my 4ish playthroughs of the base game, and two of BZ that just googling the area the part I want tends to spawn in was enough to find it within an hour of play time. I'd be completely good with something like 'selling' materials to a terminal to unlock pieces of parts though. Ok here's 120 titanium, give me the last goddamn cyclops piece.
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There's lots of stuff you can look back at in terms of design and how to improve it but the two things I'd push for are:
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That second point makes no sense, how does anyone have trouble scanning things? I walked through the subnautica world gentling tapping my scanner on every single new thing I find, animal mineral or vegetable. The entire game to me was a long series of going 'Oh lookie, wonder what that is?'
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I didn't have an issue either but 15 mins on youtube/twitch will show you plenty of people do, it's basically people's #1 complaint.
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Apr 4, 2024 17:31
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The element of an icon popping up on the hud is also a little distracting. The scanner screen itself should change colour and beep both to make it more obvious you're mousing over an unscanned object and to keep the element more rooted in the game world.
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Apr 4, 2024 19:43
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Scanning should just be a 360' held pulse and there should be a little icon with the # of unscanned items somewhere out of the way within its aura if you have the scanner out.
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Apr 4, 2024 22:04
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I should just spawn with all the stuff scanned at the start of the game imo
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I think the game should be a puzzle and a button that lays it. Automation is for things that are boring
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Teledahn posted:The element of an icon popping up on the hud is also a little distracting. The scanner screen itself should change colour and beep both to make it more obvious you're mousing over an unscanned object and to keep the element more rooted in the game world. But the scanner icon pops up even when you don't have the scanner out, which is an important cue to take the scanner out. So it can't just live on the scanner because you don't always have the scanner out. There are other games (like Pacific Drive for instance) that make scanning a built-in thing rather than a tool, you can always do it whenever you find anything new just by pressing the right button.
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Bhodi posted:I didn't have an issue either but 15 mins on youtube/twitch will show you plenty of people do, it's basically people's #1 complaint. Streamers have an extra element where they have a lot more pressure to get progressing right away when the game itself is designed more for you to slowly meander more.
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