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FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out
This sounds fun.

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FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out
What if

hypothetically

we don't have PMs

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out
Email sent.

Sorry for the holdup.

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out
##prove Kashuno vigless

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out

FilthIncarnate posted:

##prove Kashuno vigless



Tommunist posted:

kashuno, train beast (beast aligned) is shot to death day 1.

Coincidence?

:clint:

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out
yes

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out

AnonymousNarcotics posted:

Holy poo poo Rarity nice shot :hfive:

Jake you're wrong and I'm not sure why you're pushing me as scum. Am I the tootsie pop in that analogy? Which flavor? This is important.

Hm I didn't think about beast alignment being 3p. I assumed that was the scum alignment.

This is a scum post.

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out
I am leery of any and all nightrole information, and you should be too.

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out
Especially given what we already know about how alignment in this game is malleable, thanks to the Beast cardflip, I reiterate:

we should take night information with a huge grain of salt.

##vote: AnonymousNarcotics

Money where my mouth is.

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out

Rarity posted:

Why are you leery of Podima's claim, specifically?

The claim appears genuine.

It's the tracking information I suspect.

I could be persuaded to lynch Met for information later today; for now, however,

this?

AnonymousNarcotics posted:

Holy poo poo Rarity nice shot :hfive:

Jake you're wrong and I'm not sure why you're pushing me as scum. Am I the tootsie pop in that analogy? Which flavor? This is important.

Hm I didn't think about beast alignment being 3p. I assumed that was the scum alignment.

This is a scum post.

Right now my instincts tell me that Met and Podima could both be town with bad role information, but that AnonymousNarcotics is scum.

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out

Rarity posted:

You're not very good at this, are you?

You have hurt my feelings.

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out
I'll be patient.

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out

Opopanax posted:

##unvote Mmm hold up, something's fishy

Right?

This is all weird.

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out
I'm super uncomfortable with how fast things are moving and how readily people are accepting claims.

We're supposed to have enormous deadlines but we're blowing through things in a couple hours; I don't like it.

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out
Why is everyone so gung-ho about trying to figure out poo poo based on roles when it's a closed setup and there's already demonstrated weirdness?

I don't understand why we're all assuming that a game that had a mutating serial killer role designed to jump from one player to another is going to be cracked wide open by traditional rolecops or trackers.

Preview edit:

TheCog posted:

Like, this situation seems weird, sure, what do you think is happening?

I'm not sure, frankly.

I'll need time if I'm going to figure it out.

Which we have plenty of; why not use it?

I'll be gone for a while (work) but I'll try to check in this evening.

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out
I'm a little rusty: are votes reset at the end of the day or am I still voting Anonymous?

Because I'd like to keep my vote there, thank you very much.

Flying Leatherman posted:

If jake's right then we would be in a great place, with 2 scum down and one confirmed town, in a 11 player game, I'd say that's good odds for the rest of the game

I disagree; I think that, unless there's a mechanic somewhere to prevent beast seeding, this game might actually be unwinnable.

But I guess we'll find out.

preview edit:

##vote AnonymousNarcotics

just so we're clear.

Second preview edit:

TheCog posted:

This post is pretty bleh, the first line reads like scum pretending to be overly happy over something they're not.

The second is almost forcibly non-nonchalant.

The last line is... probably bullshit, but it does sound like something someone not reading the thread carefully might thing.

I'm not actually gonna vote yet, because I'd like the day to last more than 12 hours.

As I said yesterday:

that is a scumpost.

I'm glad we agree.

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out

Podima posted:

lol what

i refuse to play against the mod but that's ridiculous!

I suspect this game is unwinnable, but goddamn if I'm not going to try.

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out

Podima posted:

Also even if Met was apparently not lying about being an alignment cop, he was beast-aligned and lied about who he visited so :shrug:

The lack of a NK makes Jake's way of thinking seem pretty legit.

Your claim from yesterday is vindicated; thanks for being cool, man.

Unfortunately since the beast can seed and mutate people and poo poo the fact that you were town yesterday might now be totally meaningless but :shrug:

Preview edit:

Podima posted:

Votes get reset at the end of each day yeah.

Thank you.

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out
I propose we kill Anonymous and jail little mac.

I'm open to further discussion, however.

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out

JakeP posted:

The thing is we vigged the beast day 1 before he could have seeded anyone. If this is just some stupid gimmick disguised as a mafia game where the mod is just loving with us I will be pretty disapointed that I didn't sign up for a real mafia game. I am confused as to how Met could have been turned unless there were multiple beasts, or the mod just didn't want to let go of their gimmick and beasted some rando.

I am unironically okay with this game no matter how things turn out?

It's been fun and interesting.


Podima posted:

actually hang on a tick



but... we killed two beast-aligned people in a row? :confused: This comes off as a very strange opinion when you actually think about the context of the game and who might be concerned about unwinnability

Looking at Kashuno's flip, the seed mechanic seems like it means it's potentially mechanically impossible to eliminate all Beast-aligned players, especially since the seeding process works alongside the nightkill instead of in lieu of it.

i.e. unless the town has resources I don't know about to shut seeding down, there might be no way the town can win.

But, again, this is setup speculation and therefore useless.

I mention it only now, after I've already made my case and placed my vote.

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out

JakeP posted:

and if anon is telling the truth about her role and flips town then I don't even know what to say

Right?

JakeP posted:

The thing is Kashuno never had an opportunity to seed anyone, yet Met was somehow seeded and turned anyway. If it was similar to kash's role this could only have happened if a beast died after seeding him, which was impossible, since kash died before night 1, and no one else died between him and Met

That's true, as far as we know.

I'm just operating under the assumption that we have no idea what is happening rolewise this game and that it'll be a better strategy to scumhunt traditionally.

Speaking of which: if Rarity's been seeded, we might just be letting them coast to victory on the strength of their successful dayvig.

But I don't know that we should tear ourselves to paranoid pieces yet.

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out

Podima posted:

A thought I had along those lines - do dayvigs usually end the day? I haven't seen town dayvigs do that, and it seems kinda anti-town to remove the town's ability to lynch for a day.

I've seen things work like that before; I've also seen dayvigs not end the day, tho.

Often it boils down to moderator preference.

I don't know that we should read into it.

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out
I'm talking too much.

I'd like to hear more from Rarity, Opop, Anon, and LittleMac; I'll be quiet until we do.

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out
I really don't know why you guys are rummaging for clues in the flavor.

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out

JakeP posted:

It could have been possible that scum was not provided the town win condition, and entrapping them that way would make sense, i have no problem with that line of thinking


All right. I won't argue.

Well, we've sort of loosely consensus'd that we're going to kill Anon today, which I am in favor of.

Can we get a votecount? How far off is the hammer?

Also:

imgay posted:

are beasts town or scum?

look at this

what is this poo poo, dude

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out
I mean

I know we're batting 1000 on beasts right now

but if we ever get a chance to breathe, let's please look at imgay

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out

Podima posted:

Mafia protips:
- The first post has an image which will automatically update to show the current votecount & deadline
- You can click on that image to see more detailed vote information
- I think you can summon votefinder to make a post in the thread like so: !votefinder !votecount (not sure which of those two works)

Much appreciated.

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out

AnonymousNarcotics posted:

I think it's possible that Rarity is scum. It's easy for her to hide behind vigging a killing 3p, and if she had hit town she could have just said oops - she even did say:


Also, like thecog said, it shut down day 1 discussion very quickly which is anti-town.

I remain very comfortable with my vote.

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out

TheCog posted:

I... I don't even know what to do with this game anymore.

:glomp:

it's gonna be okay

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out

imgay posted:

im gonna be a huge baby though

What would you do if someone claimed to be your lover?

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out
Much as I like and appreciate you two, my question was for imgay.

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out

imgay posted:

didnt read it

What if I were your lover, imgay?

What would that mean?

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out
That's hammer.

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out
If Rarity, Podima or JakeP is rolling some sort of scum masterplay

I'd be fine with that, frankly.

##vote imgay

imgay posted:

cant wait to find out who gf is

:wink:

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out
turbo'd

FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out
It would be hilarious if you were all cultists at this point and I get endgamed tomorrow.

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FilthIncarnate
Aug 13, 2007

Weird owl has life all figured out

Tommunist posted:


the monster- untrackable/invisible


FilthIncarnate posted:

I don't understand why we're all assuming that a game that had a mutating serial killer role designed to jump from one player to another is going to be cracked wide open by traditional rolecops or trackers.

:colbert:

This was fun. Thank you all very much.

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