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In the opening of Retribution https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-93JaAVQizc we see christ being dragged back into into conflict as the devils ascend. Besides the neat opening sequence the entire setting echoes Dante's circles of hell and questions what is worth bringing with you in salvation. The movie acknowledges that it straddles two mediums by explicitly recycling prior actors and characters from the franchise, and the deeply feminine final scrap involves patriarchal control, conceptions of motherhood, feminine beauty and gleeful expressions of the usually masculine physical power, the subversion of which is made explicit by the frailty of the male characters. The series makes effort to show the female lead as literally being reborn throughout the narrative. Is this lazy, or is something going on in this franchise?
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Yes they are interesting, in a manner similar to that of species that become isolated from their meta-population and take on bizarre, over-emphasized, and wholly unheard of traits. Every time a new one comes out it is like we get a window into a parallel universe where Milla Jovovich is the only action star, and Resident Evil movies are the only franchise. Like seriously how and why does this franchise exist? Does it do particularly well in theatres?
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 09:36 |
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Fasdar posted:Like seriously how and why does this franchise exist? Does it do particularly well in theatres? *Assuming the numbers on the-numbers.com are accurate
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 10:22 |
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Yes they are OP but not for any of the reasons you listed
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 10:50 |
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Seems like they're good because u get to see a hot babe kicking rear end
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 11:03 |
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if I wanted to see a hot babe kicking rear end I'd just open my fetish porn folder
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 12:21 |
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cat doter posted:if I wanted to see a hot babe kicking rear end I'd just open my fetish porn folder Dude...tmi
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 16:21 |
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Kind of like the Fast and Furious films, they start to fully embrace their ridiculousness in later sequels and find a good tone, hit a high, and then gradually dip down and get worse than the previous one before them.
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 16:24 |
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at least tomandandy are still getting work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK57-bk3yCA
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 19:48 |
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The first three are eh, but Afterlife and Retribution are fun as gently caress.
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 20:21 |
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Darko posted:Kind of like the Fast and Furious films, they start to fully embrace their ridiculousness in later sequels and find a good tone, hit a high, and then gradually dip down and get worse than the previous one before them. You beat me to it. Resident Evil and Resident Evil: Apocalypse are pretty lovely movies but good background noise honestly, I enjoy them but they're bad. The third one though, Exctinction? They got the guy who directed Highlander and Razorback to make basically one of those Italian 80s movies that has Mad Max/Zombies/Whatever the costume department had lying around in a desert but with a higher budget, it's so much fun. Then in the fourth movie the world is not a desert wasteland again without any explanation even though it's a direct sequel like all of them AND it embraces the series full stupidity by bringing Wesker into it and Alice clones and stuff. The guy that plays Wesker just completely hams it up, I love this series. They couldn't get Sienna Guillory to be Jill Valentine again though (replaced with Ali Larter), which is fine, but her performance in Apocalypse is the greatest thing ever because she wasn't lying on the movie's old promotional website when she said she ***STUDIED THE GAMES*** because she literally aims her gun and walks around in a stiff robotic manner like how Jill does in Resident Evil 3 while wearing the exact same outfit while everyone else is walking and talking just slightly more naturally. It's incredible. Also Apocalypse has the scene where Milla Jovovich breaks into a military surplus store so that she can rob it to dress herself in......90s raver clothing? Art. The worst thing about the first two movies honestly are the effects and presentation. There's a lot of CG in them that actually isn't the worst ever (and was pretty cool when the movies were new) but a lot of the makeup, costumes, the lighting, the sets any time they're not on location, it all just looks super cheap (this is especially true of Apocalypse) even when the movies were new. I mean the scripts for both are disposable crap too where all of the dialogue feels like it was either handed to the actors five seconds before they delivered it or references to Aliens and Predator, but that wouldn't stand out as badly if the movies looked a little better. It's really bad because say the first movie has the laser hallway and the mansion they filmed a bit in which look cool, so everything else looks 10 times worse and crappier. But they're also worth watching because, from their financial success, you can very clearly look at when they were released and see how they had an influence on the look and style of the games and vice versa when they were at their peak popularity in 2010 or so. They do take themselves SUPER seriously too, which as someone posted earlier, is hilarious when so much of the material in them is taken directly from other zombie movies and the video games themselves, but the movies really do have this air about them from the soundtrack selections and stuff like Resident Evil is THE ONLY action film franchise you've never seen anything like this before in your entire life!!! I love it. Also this was the first film franchise ever where Michelle Rodriguez' character dies in the first movie but then comes back on the side of the villains five movies in out of nowhere. Sorry Fast and the Furious. This final Resident Evil movie that's coming out not too long from now. A stunt woman had to have her arm amputated because of an accident on set, and not long after a man died because a platform meant to lift a vehicle up collapsed on him. The action in this upcoming movie better be incredible, not that that would make it worth what happened to them, but god drat. Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Jan 26, 2016 |
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My favorite thing about the Resident Evil movies is how their subtitles keep me from ever understanding in which order they were released and how many there are. I don't think there's another franchise where I have turned on the television and said "wait, I haven't seen this one yet... they made another one?" They must be very frustrating movies for people who care deeply about the plot of the games, because they keep adding elements and characters from the newer games but keep doing their own thing with them. It's like a financed piece of fan-fiction. I liked the Barry Burton cosplay in the last one* though. *I assume it was the latest one but I like said, you never know!
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 21:18 |
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I really do wish they gave them a number, but it helps add to how highly the franchise's creators think of the series, like, OF COURSE everyone knows this is the new one! Even as someone who likes the movies a lot I had to double check this with IMDB: Resident Evil Resident Evil: Apocalypse Resident Evil: Extinction Resident Evil: Afterlife Resident Evil: Retribution The one coming in 2017 is Resident Evil: THE FINAL CHAPTER, but with a name like that I'm sure there'll be a reboot a few years after to keep things confusing. There's also the two feature length CG movies Capcom had made, Resident Evil: Degeneration and later Resident Evil: Damnation to add to the confusion.
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 21:27 |
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Degeneration and Damnation are pretty okay, but they hew a lot closer to the games and aren't the kind of bonkers-rear end nonsense the live-action movies are. I feel like I should rewatch the first 3 because that post up there made 2 and 3 sound pretty appealing, at least.
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Neo Rasa posted:I really do wish they gave them a number, but it helps add to how highly the franchise's creators think of the series, like, OF COURSE everyone knows this is the new one! Even as someone who likes the movies a lot I had to double check this with IMDB: It's like this, right? - the one in the underground facility - the one in the city - the one in the desert - the one in the prison that starts in Tokyo and ends on a ship - the one in the arctic facility Sounds like they just need a movie in a forest now.
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 21:38 |
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Mierenneuker posted:It's like this, right? fixed that for you a space forest would be accceptable, i suppose
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Mierenneuker posted:They must be very frustrating movies for people who care deeply about the plot of the games, because they keep adding elements and characters from the newer games but keep doing their own thing with them. It's like a financed piece of fan-fiction. I liked the Barry Burton cosplay in the last one* though. Neo Rasa posted:The one coming in 2017 is Resident Evil: THE FINAL CHAPTER, but with a name like that I'm sure there'll be a reboot a few years after to keep things confusing.
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 22:39 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpJhilIA-NY&t=817s
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 22:53 |
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The Resident Evil movies are the most faithful video game adaptations. Not the specific events , but the illogical and dumbass tone the games sunk to. I like them.
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# ? Jan 27, 2016 02:04 |
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They should crossover Resident Evil and The Fast and the Furious.
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# ? Jan 27, 2016 03:23 |
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every zombie should be a burned paul walker
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# ? Jan 27, 2016 04:07 |
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I mean, they're schlock but as video game movies go: a) They're not boring. Which is bizarrely a trap a lot of video game movies fall into for some reason or another and b) They know what they are, and don't try to insult you by pretending to be anything else. On those two points specifically, the trailers for the new Warcraft movie seem to fail terribly. I'll be very surprised if Warcraft doesn't turn out to be boring garbage that takes the plot from an RTS way too seriously. Edit: I mean, who didn't crack a laugh at that scene in, I forget which RE movie, where the protagonists do the sensible thing and just like unload bullets into Wesker's face for a whole minute non-stop. And then he still gets up after they leave! It's a movie that actually understands it's based off a video game and should have the tone of one. Thundercracker fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Jan 27, 2016 |
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It's spawned legions of people who get very upset that they don't follow the plot of the games and are thus disrespectful. And that is never not funny.
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# ? Jan 27, 2016 05:57 |
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It's no coincidence that Resident Evil transitioned from video game to B-movie schlock. The video games were inspired by B-movie schlock. I think Warcraft will do alright. I say this as someone who's only played Wacraft 2 like once, fifteen years ago.
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# ? Jan 27, 2016 06:54 |
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Detective No. 27 posted:It's no coincidence that Resident Evil transitioned from video game to B-movie schlock. The video games were inspired by B-movie schlock. The funny thing is that that's still really late to have played Warcraft 2. Now I feel old.
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# ? Jan 27, 2016 08:42 |
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Neo Rasa posted:It's really bad because say the first movie has the laser hallway I've only seen the first movie but this scene really stood out for me. I thought it was awesome and the only thing I can remember, even though I didn't hate the movie at all. I need to catch up with this franchise. I've never even played any RE games.
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# ? Jan 27, 2016 16:12 |
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That whole hive lab underneath Raccoon city was a pretty cool setting in the first one and I thought it was a neat supplementary story line to the already B-movie schlock of the video games. After that the movies depart completely from the video games and now the movies and the video games both reference each other in really fun and silly ways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8gfGhVL3qs had a nice little callback in Resident Evil 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWjxMMnAhz4 And the movies are not alone in having their wacky names make lineage confusing. We have Resident Evil Resident Evil 2 Resident Evil 3: Nemesis Resident Evil: Survivor Resident Evil: Code Veronica Resident Evil Survivor 2 Code: Veronica Resident Evil Gaiden Resident Evil Zero Resident Evil Outbreak Resident Evil Outbreak File 2 Resident Evil 4 Resident Evil the umbrella chronicles Resident Evil the darkside chronicles Resident Evil 5 Resident Evil Revelations Resident Evil Operation Raccoon City Resident Evil 6 it goes on...
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# ? Jan 27, 2016 17:18 |
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I still think my favorite part of all the movies, and when I began actually enjoying them instead of being mad at how dumb they are, is in Resident Evil: In the Desert, where there's a box that opens that apparently spawns zombies.
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# ? Jan 27, 2016 20:52 |
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the Resident Evil movies are actually not that interesting. Mortal Kombat still rules though.
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# ? Jan 27, 2016 21:25 |
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The last one was really good. I liked how it had 'levels'.
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# ? Jan 27, 2016 21:27 |
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a cop posted:The last one was really good. I liked how it had 'levels'. Darko posted:I still think my favorite part of all the movies, and when I began actually enjoying them instead of being mad at how dumb they are, is in Resident Evil: In the Desert, where there's a box that opens that apparently spawns zombies.
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# ? Jan 27, 2016 21:56 |
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speshl guy posted:That whole hive lab underneath Raccoon city was a pretty cool setting in the first one and I thought it was a neat supplementary story line to the already B-movie schlock of the video games. After that the movies depart completely from the video games and now the movies and the video games both reference each other in really fun and silly ways. It's actually directly from Resident Evil 2. This angered fans sooooo much it was awesome because the first movie doesn't have characters in the game from it. I can't even believe people are dumb enough to think the RE movies would be better if they were just the games 1:1 but with real actors, like what's the point? The games are already schlocky and awesome. As much as they're not good it is a little impressive that they compressed the story of the first three games into two movies with new characters and a lot of extra backstory. speshl guy posted:And the movies are not alone in having their wacky names make lineage confusing. We have I always found this interesting because in Japan it makes slightly more sense. Like all of the first person games there are part of a single spin off series in Japan, but Survivor was so poorly received here that we didn't even get Survivor 2, but then we got Dead Aim, which again was so poorly received that they again changed it "Chronicles" in the US. Some of the subtitles make more sense in Japan too (BioHazard Outbreak comapred to Resident Evil: Outbreak). The film series did at least get that right, that the game stories have always been b movie sci-fi cheese first and horror second. Darko posted:I still think my favorite part of all the movies, and when I began actually enjoying them instead of being mad at how dumb they are, is in Resident Evil: In the Desert, where there's a box that opens that apparently spawns zombies. This was the same for me too, I love that movie because it allowed the series to transition from taking itself way to seriously to just being ridiculous. They just keep coming, the greatest clown car in cinema.
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# ? Jan 27, 2016 22:08 |
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I'm waiting for the final one. Somehow they mega hosed up the entire world and somehow the white house is the safe haven. I cant wait to find out in the opening sequence that the ending to the last movie is just a super ultra mega underground base with a recreated white house as the ultimate test or what ever.
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# ? Jan 27, 2016 23:12 |
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Instead Paul W Anderson did loving "Pompeii" a movie with literally nothing to recommend it.
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# ? Jan 27, 2016 23:22 |
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I'm hoping the movies start taking notes from Resident Evil Zero and we get zombie slug monsters. And Billy loving Coen.
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Capn Beeb posted:I'm hoping the movies start taking notes from Resident Evil Zero and we get zombie slug monsters. We didn't even get Chris or Jill. The movies have very little to do with the games.
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# ? Jan 28, 2016 05:56 |
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I honestly just want more movies like the series. Other than Resident Evil, Underworld, Blomkamp's movies, and John Wick if it becomes a franchise, the mid-budget theatrically-released R-rated action movie seems to have died.
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# ? Jan 28, 2016 06:07 |
I personally think the first 3 games as low budget horror instead of over the top action would've made for some pretty neat films. They're already pretty much homages to 80s b-movies.
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# ? Jan 28, 2016 06:28 |
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Romero's script was pretty drat close to the games, but, given how he did from Land of the Dead on, I'm actually glad they moved the project out of his hands.
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Darko posted:Romero's script was pretty drat close to the games, but, given how he did from Land of the Dead on, I'm actually glad they moved the project out of his hands. Honestly, Resident Evil by him would have been fine. The problem with the later Dead movies is he ran out of ideas, not that he ran out of talent.
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