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Pan Dulce
Jan 4, 2011

Beautiful cinnamon roll too good for this world, too pure


I do appreciate that while there's this whole, "I'll never have sex with you," between both the male and the female of all these crime dramas (Bones, Elementary, Castle, etc) it's refreshing to see it just blatantly SAID right off the bat by one of the characters and the other completely blow him off.

You usually get that season two or something. Or season five thousand, if you're talking about Bones.

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Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?


Grimey Drawer

The gay security guard was hilarious. Especially when he showed up to escort em out and just shrugged like "Sorry man".

I'm thinking the detective lady (god I am horrible with names on this show) is a nephilim.

She's talked about her mom, but I don't think she's mentioned her dad. It makes sense that another angel (or part) could injure one.

Plus, according to the previews, it looks like she's the only one causing him pain.

Medullah
Aug 13, 2003
Fear my Shark Rocket

Holyshoot posted:

Any goon looking for some breaking bad type drama should probably leave now.

But what do you REALLY want us to do?

I too am bummed about the episode order being mixed up so we know there's no big surprises coming, but oh well. I'll keep giving it a chance, it's enjoyable at least.

WarLocke
Jun 6, 2004

You are being watched.


Everything about Decker being an ex-soft core porn actress is incredibly juvenile, but I still can't stop snickering when it comes up.

"Have we met before? I feel like I've seen your tits..."

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

Flash! ah-ahh! Savior of the Universe! Flash! ah-ahh! He'll save everyone of us!

It wasn't soft core porn. It's was a teen tits and rear end movie.

Harry
Jun 13, 2003

I do solemnly swear that in the year 2015 I will theorycraft my wallet as well as my WoW

Random Stranger posted:

Well, for one thing I'd keep women, children, and pets away from him.


After this week's episode I don't think I can go on with the show. Everything besides Tom Ellis is just so terrible, lazy, and boring. It feels like everyone involved gave up after settling on a concept.

But just to add to the debate, I initially thought that Lucifer was set in a world where people weren't generally aware of the devil even as a legendary figure. If someone came up to me and said, "Hi, I'm Lucifer Morningstar," my first reaction would be, "Why did you pick a terrible name for yourself? Also, that fedora looks terrible." Nobody on the show seemed to notice how tacky the idea of someone calling himself "Lucifer" was. But apparently people are well aware of the connection...

He's a high profile (supposedly) nightclub owner in LA. I'm guessing this isn't too weird?

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009




WarLocke posted:

Everything about Decker being an ex-soft core porn actress is incredibly juvenile, but I still can't stop snickering when it comes up.

"Have we met before? I feel like I've seen your tits..."
It was softcore porn as much as American Pie was.

cheesetriangles
Jan 5, 2011



I really like this show. It will probably get cancelled.

ShakeZula
Jun 17, 2003

Nobody move and nobody gets hurt.


Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

The gay security guard was hilarious. Especially when he showed up to escort em out and just shrugged like "Sorry man".

I'm thinking the detective lady (god I am horrible with names on this show) is a nephilim.

She's talked about her mom, but I don't think she's mentioned her dad. It makes sense that another angel (or part) could injure one.

Plus, according to the previews, it looks like she's the only one causing him pain.

She mentioned that her father was a cop, and that's why she went into policework once the acting didn't pan out.

Tom Clancy is Dead
Jul 13, 2011


Harry posted:

He's a high profile (supposedly) nightclub owner in LA. I'm guessing this isn't too weird?

It's really, really not. That choice in particular would lead to some rolled eyes, but the whole "name yourself brand yourself" thing is very real. I would assume it's a failed attempt at a clever play on temptation and not blink twice.

Holyshoot
May 5, 2010


Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

The gay security guard was hilarious. Especially when he showed up to escort em out and just shrugged like "Sorry man".

I'm thinking the detective lady (god I am horrible with names on this show) is a nephilim.

She's talked about her mom, but I don't think she's mentioned her dad. It makes sense that another angel (or part) could injure one.

Plus, according to the previews, it looks like she's the only one causing him pain.
That would be awesome and make some sense. Is there anything like that in the books?

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?


My angel knowledge is a bit rusty. Isn't a nephilim the offspring or a demon father and a human mother, or can either parent be a human?

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

Flash! ah-ahh! Savior of the Universe! Flash! ah-ahh! He'll save everyone of us!

"The nature of the nephilim is complicated by the ambiguity of Genesis 6:4, which leaves it unclear whether they are the "sons of God" or their offspring who are the "mighty men of old, men of renown"

Whatever that hocus pocus means... just roll with it, it's all made up anyway.

biracial bear for uncut
Jun 9, 2009
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BLOCK/IGNORE THEM IMMEDIATELY



Gonz posted:

My angel knowledge is a bit rusty. Isn't a nephilim the offspring or a demon father and a human mother, or can either parent be a human?

In comic books, Nephilim are basically the kids of any angel and any human, though they tend to be fallen angels that were the fathers because of the whole disobeying God thing.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011



"Missed me?"

Literally the best and/or worst pun I think I've ever seen.

Medullah
Aug 13, 2003
Fear my Shark Rocket

Wade Wilson posted:

In comic books, Nephilim are basically the kids of any angel and any human, though they tend to be fallen angels that were the fathers because of the whole disobeying God thing.

It's a possibility that the lady detective is a replacement for the Elaine Belloc character in the books (sign of true old age, can't remember the cops name and I watched an episode last night, yet remember Elaine from a book I read 10 years ago).

In the books, Elaine is a young girl that Lucifer is interested in for some mysterious reason, and it turns out that she's exactly that, the daughter of Michael, the only angel who can procreate .

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009



Medullah posted:

It's a possibility that the lady detective is a replacement for the Elaine Belloc character in the books (sign of true old age, can't remember the cops name and I watched an episode last night, yet remember Elaine from a book I read 10 years ago).

That isn't old age; it's just terrible writing. Every character in the show has no traits aside from their single assigned stereotype, e.g. no-nonsense cop-lady, deadbeat ex, precocious child, angry guy, acerbic friend(?) of the protagonist etc. etc. Why would you remember anyone's name when the only memorable standout so far is Tom Ellis' boyish grin?

Echophonic
Sep 16, 2005

ha;lp


Hell Gem

Her name's Decker. Something Decker. Wait, poo poo.

Wahad
May 19, 2011



Everything by design.


Echophonic posted:

Her name's Decker. Something Decker. Wait, poo poo.

Chloe Decker.

I never understood goons' tendency to forget show characters' names just 'cause the show isn't great.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007


Wahad posted:

Chloe Decker.

I never understood goons' tendency to forget show characters' names just 'cause the show isn't great.

I don't remember anybody's names, TV or otherwise.

Medullah
Aug 13, 2003
Fear my Shark Rocket

Wahad posted:

Chloe Decker.

I never understood goons' tendency to forget show characters' names just 'cause the show isn't great.

I don't remember half the characters names in shows I watch. Game of Thrones is one of my favorite shows and I can easily tell you the names of the main Lannisters and Starks, but all the secondary characters? Nope. I have an atrocious memory for that stuff.

Yet can tell you every character from the Dragonlance books I read when I was 8...

Holyshoot
May 5, 2010


I can tell you the woman who plays Chloe Decker bares a striking resemblance to Milla Jovovich.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?


Grimey Drawer

I seriously thought it was Bela from Supernatural, but she's on The Walking Dead. Her and that actress can be twins or sisters.

ShakeZula
Jun 17, 2003

Nobody move and nobody gets hurt.


Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

I seriously thought it was Bela from Supernatural, but she's on The Walking Dead. Her and that actress can be twins or sisters.

Yeah, they have the same eyes.

EricFate
Aug 31, 2001

Crumpets. Glorious Crumpets.

Nap Ghost

Skippy McPants posted:

That isn't old age; it's just terrible writing. Every character in the show has no traits aside from their single assigned stereotype, e.g. no-nonsense cop-lady, deadbeat ex, precocious child, angry guy, acerbic friend(?) of the protagonist etc. etc. Why would you remember anyone's name when the only memorable standout so far is Tom Ellis' boyish grin?

It is a Jerry Bruckheimer production. Writing is not going to be terribly high on the priorities list.

Otherwise Mazikeen might actually have appeared half demonic instead of being a fashion model, and the key relationships that Lucifer carried would be with the only other characters he respected in the books instead of the cop they invented.

Her charm immunity and ability to harm him is at least an interesting twist, and there are any number of interesting ways they could utilize it (like tie her to Crispus Allen somehow since her dad was a cop), but I am sure it will wind up being something stupid and nonsensical that got pulled out of somebody's rear end during a writers room coke binge.

I appreciate that the show has gotten me to laugh out loud on several occasions during each episode, but that has been entirely due to the strength of the lead actor. I don't even try to pretend that it shares anything with the source material beyond the name.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

EricFate posted:

I don't even try to pretend that it shares anything with the source material beyond the name.

Good, no one's expecting you to.

Miranda
Dec 24, 2004

Not a cuttlefish.

I'm watching the most recent episode and I do love how he reacts to the kid.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011



EricFate posted:

I appreciate that the show has gotten me to laugh out loud on several occasions during each episode, but that has been entirely due to the strength of the lead actor.

It really is perfect casting. If they had gotten someone even a little less adept at this role then I'd already chucked this show in the garbage.

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate


In all honestly, I find this show captures the skevness of the character better then Constantine did last year.

pixelpusherbot
Jun 3, 2009


Absolute cheese and camp. Stupid, silly, cookie-cutter, oh-no-you-did-not, unimaginative, contrived tropes, I love it.

About as serious as Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Lots of potential for off-the-charts wonky plots and cameo's.

Demon fight scene was so bad and reminded me of Wesley Snipe's Blade. Demon face CGI shows they are taking themselves seriously enough for a good laugh.

Very diverse cast. Hope I can keep watching without noticing the over the top acting (the female supermodel cop plays Deb from Dexter and Lucifer lays it on so thick it may become a parody of itself).

I hope they drag out that female-cop-is-mother-mary-angel-schtick 'till eternity. I think they took it from The Devil's Advocate (with another overacting devil). Then the inevitable breakdown of Lucifer back to his old angry evil self, with humanity saving him from sowing mayhem at the last minute. This could be fun for a while.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011



Isn't it already basically a self-parody?

I still can't over the "missed me" pun from last episode.

Echophonic
Sep 16, 2005

ha;lp


Hell Gem

I never thought I'd laugh at the phrase "isn't it illegal to leave a child locked in a car?", but here we are.

Eddain
May 6, 2007


pixelpusherbot posted:

Very diverse cast. Hope I can keep watching without noticing the over the top acting (the female supermodel cop plays Deb from Dexter and Lucifer lays it on so thick it may become a parody of itself).

Uh, what? Jennifer Carpenter is currently playing an FBI agent on the show Limitless.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Echophonic posted:

I never thought I'd laugh at the phrase "isn't it illegal to leave a child locked in a car?", but here we are.

The guy's assistant bringing out the candles in the background was the best gag of this episode.

Super.Jesus
Oct 20, 2011


''I have no idea what your angle is, but at least now I can keep my eye on you''

This is my stance towards this series.

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status:Perpetually fearful

The angel angle is really bad and takes away from story. At least once he starts visiting Starbucks in civilian clothing and does not do his weird time nonsense as he does it.

pixelpusherbot
Jun 3, 2009


Eddain posted:

Uh, what? Jennifer Carpenter is currently playing an FBI agent on the show Limitless.
This show may too produce a type cast or two.




It's not as much playing the Deb Dexter character as it is the: close Blue Steel mouth and tilt head forward with stoic look. Its a mannerism she practiced in the mirror and I like to think it is in the scripts, much like Eddie Murphie's ha-ha-ha! laugh or Tom Cruise clenching his cheeks by biting his teeth.



I can't see me watching this show like I did The Wire, Oz or Billions, so I hope to have it jump the shark at least once an episode. This show will be my guilty pleasure, the devil made me say it.



(Noticed the camera framing of Lucifer, it often prominently shows his back with dark silhouette in frame (this one added in post-production?))

I thought this video was cute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdfJ_Yp4xfc

Echophonic
Sep 16, 2005

ha;lp


Hell Gem

computer parts posted:

The guy's assistant bringing out the candles in the background was the best gag of this episode.

Yeah, that was pretty classy. He loved that pig.

pixelpusherbot posted:

I can't see me watching this show like I did The Wire, Oz or Billions, so I hope to have it jump the shark at least once an episode. This show will be my guilty pleasure, the devil made me say it.

I thought this video was cute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdfJ_Yp4xfc

That's a pretty cool video, I like that they know they aren't going to be able to do a close following of the comics and are trying to do something relateable and not insanely ambitious.

Yeah, it ain't high-class or high drama, but it's certainly a lot of fun.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011



pixelpusherbot posted:

I can't see me watching this show like I did The Wire, Oz or Billions, so I hope to have it jump the shark at least once an episode.

Here's the thing, those were all serious dramas. This a POLICE PRODUCERAL where the eccentric genius is THE DEVIL. It's jump the shark, the show.

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Poetic Justice
Jun 17, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 10 days!


This show is probably one of of the best shows on Fox in a while.

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