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Jan 17, 2005



The comic book Lucifer isn't good or evil but instead follows his own morality of gently caress you I'll do what I want. Which is why he hates God so much.

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Jan 17, 2005



Collateral posted:

Is there a daughter called Elaine?

I have a feeling that if they go with that stuff they're going to put it on the lady cop.

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Jan 17, 2005



So despite all the other things they're doing differently I did notice one small comics touch. When Lucifer was putting his shirt on you could briefly see his back scars from when he cut his wings off after he left Hell.

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Jan 17, 2005



computer parts posted:

I think it's because most urban fantasy does the whole "I must keep the secret to protect people" and Lucifer is just like "yes I'm the literal Devil, how can I help?"

Yeah, a really annoying part of Heroes was how every Evo throughout history decided to hide their powers from everyone. Even though it really didn't make any sense.

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Jan 17, 2005



I'm kind of annoyed that they aren't really doing anything with Mazikeen.

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Jan 17, 2005



A funny thing about the comic and him having sex is that they show he doesn't actually have a dick.

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Jan 17, 2005



They also did a gimmick episode making fun of graphic crime shows by defusing everything with goofy replacement dialog.

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Jan 17, 2005



bio347 posted:

In the comics, (well, in Sandman - Lucifer itself starts after Dream cuts his wings off) he did have bat wings in Hell. At some point his actual feathery angelic wings had ended up elsewhere and I don't exactly remember how that all worked. Been a while since I've read 'em.

What happened in the comic is that he originally had bat wings in hell, cut them off and then in between cutting them off and getting them back they turned back into angel wings.

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Jan 17, 2005



I'm glad they actually went into his "real" name being Samael.

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Jan 17, 2005



The "God's plan" stuff definitely clashes with the comic because in that Lucifer's problem with God was the idea of a plan, not his place in it. He actually creates an entirely new universe where he's in charge just to get away from it.

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Jan 17, 2005



I think the biggest flaw the show has is how there's almost no supernatural elements. You have Lucifer, Maze and Amendadiel and that's it.

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Jan 17, 2005



Neil Gaiman wrote a short story ("Murder Mysteries") about what caused Lucifer to rebel, it isn't explicitly the Sandman version of the character but there's nothing that contradicts the characterization either. The story takes place before the fall, there's a murder in the Silver City and the angel Raguel is tasked to find out what happened. He eventually learns who did what and God (through Raguel) punishes the perpetrator by destroying them. Lucifer thinks the punishment was too harsh for the crime and the whole thing is shown as what plants the seeds of his rebellion.

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Jan 17, 2005



Echophonic posted:

Maze is explicitly a demon, created by Lucifer. I think she's his lead torturer, but that may have been someone saying something about the comic and me getting confused.

In the comic Mazikeen is one of the Lillim, a race of magical creatures with various powers as they are children of Lillith and various spirits, lesser gods and demons.

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Jan 17, 2005



They also just kind of dropped her investigating his weirdness.

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Jan 17, 2005



I don't know if I dig Det Ex-Husband getting a complete undo of his entire subplot.

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Jan 17, 2005



I'm still kind of annoyed that a show about the Devil helping the LAPD somehow isn't helping with supernatural crimes.

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Jan 17, 2005



computer parts posted:

It's a well worn trope to have "police have a suspect in custody that looks good but then another crime happens".

He said he did it and then it happened again and they never went back to explain why the guy confessed in the first place.

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Jan 17, 2005



The crime of the week stuff is definitely the show's weakest part and it doesn't exactly inspire confidence when you have your main character consistently get bored with it and just wander off.

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Jan 17, 2005



Aleph Null posted:

He is mortal around her, so there is that.

Maybe they'll finally explain it this season.

They seem like they've completely forgotten about that.

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Jan 17, 2005



Charisma Carpenter looks super generic now.

"It was the 90s, we did a lot of coke."

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Jan 17, 2005



Mark Dacascos as a washed up 90s action movie star? That's just good casting.

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Jan 17, 2005



Phil LaMarr? Guest star crazy time!

Also, who wants to guess that Phil LaMarr did it?

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Jan 17, 2005



Lol, Chloe reading Coraline to her daughter.

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Jan 17, 2005



My only problem with that sword is that it seemed rather unimpressive for something that can erase a goddess from existence.

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Jan 17, 2005



It was kind of weird that Dan straight up says "Netflix" when they were talking about those old action movies becoming popular again. Usually shows don't mention real world products/websites that like.

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Jan 17, 2005



Fox seems happy as they've ordered a back 9 for the season.

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Jan 17, 2005



The Dansformation stuff was a lot of fun. With Lucifer parting his hair the same way and wearing a jacket over a hoodie.

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Jan 17, 2005



Really need a gif of that demonstration.

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Jan 17, 2005



The comic has little to nothing to do with the show. Especially in characterization of Lucifer himself.

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Jan 17, 2005



Azrael is the angel of death, aka the one God sends out to do stuff like kill all the first born sons of Egypt. Death is of the Endless, one of 7 beings that are personifications of universal constants.

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Jan 17, 2005



So he's still alive or that was bad acting because his eyes were still moving.

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Jan 17, 2005



If only his horrible real estate developer father had just run for president!

Edit: Also Lucifer was clearly drawing a ballsack on his cast.

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Jan 17, 2005



Rachel Harris is apparently pocket sized.

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Jan 17, 2005



How the gently caress has this show been on hiatus for a month and now they're advertising a couple of episodes left until the "winter finale"?

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Jan 17, 2005



Looks like they're sticking 24 and that crappy cop show APB in the Monday night time slot until May.

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Jan 17, 2005



Nice to see the show being a little more explicit(ish) about Lucifer swinging both ways.

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Jan 17, 2005



Guess who's showing up when this comes back in May? Timothy Olyphant! He'll be playing a man who has been institutionalized because he is claiming he is God.

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Jan 17, 2005



Anyone else notice the really big Supergirl billboard in the opening crime scene? That was weird.

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Jan 17, 2005



Had a good chortle at that "triple Decker" joke.

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Jan 17, 2005



Reminder that the season finale is airing tonight.

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