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Because it's made by the Long War dudes, I thought I'd mention in this thread that I created a thread for Terra Invicta.
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Hi xcom thread, I'm quoting this post I made in the Steam thread because I only recently learned that x-com UFO Defense and TFTD have an active modding scene and many people I have told since didn't know either. The mods I have played have been great so here's a post about mods for the OG x-com games:deep dish peat moss posted:I've been getting into the world of mods for the original x-com and this stuff is wild. So here's a post for anyone who liked x-com but doesn't know this mod scene exists.
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Good effort post, thank you! Maybe I can finally find a foothold in the classic Xcom games.
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Bogart posted:Good effort post, thank you! Maybe I can finally find a foothold in the classic Xcom games.
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Beware the 40k mod. It is absolutely brutally hard even on the 'easier' starts and the combat is much faster pace than more traditional xcom just due to the ranges and damage involved.
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I'm playing OXCE + FinalModPack at the moment, as it works just fine on an old android pad of my sons. OXCE is available on the play store, you just have to faff about getting the original game files and mods onto the device, but that's not very hard either. FinalModPack is great if you know what you are doing. It ups the aliens a lot, and stretches out the tech tree. I have 6 bases now, just building psi-labs, and have only just unlocked the top laser rifles, no usable plasma in sight yet, but I have another data slate to check. I might try the fantasy one once I've finished this.
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Tom Tucker posted:A really good game folks might like is Desperados. If you ever played the old Commando game it's like that - it's real-time but you can pause and go back as much as you want. This and Partisans are fantastic games that seemed to have flown under the radar. Definitely worth picking up.
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Getting back into XCOM 2 WOTC for a bit. Anyone know a mod that makes the View Soldiers screen a bit more useful? In particular, it would be nice if it showed the Will stat X out of Y, instead of just Ready, Tired, Shaken. Any other fields would be cool too, but it just seems kinda light on info generally, and I'd like to know if a particular dude is at 100% will, or is just barely above the breakpoint for Ready/Tired. Also, are there any mods that let you assign soldiers into squads in game. I've heard Long War 2 has this, but I don't think I have the time or interest in trying a full Long War campaign in the foreseeable future. However, I like to divide my agents up into "squads" and send them out together in regular WOTC, so if the LW2 sub-mod that does that is available separately, or there is another mod that does that, I'd be really interested.
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RVT posted:Getting back into XCOM 2 WOTC for a bit. Anyone know a mod that makes the View Soldiers screen a bit more useful? In particular, it would be nice if it showed the Will stat X out of Y, instead of just Ready, Tired, Shaken. Any other fields would be cool too, but it just seems kinda light on info generally, and I'd like to know if a particular dude is at 100% will, or is just barely above the breakpoint for Ready/Tired. Detailed Soldier Lists is probably the mod you're looking for, it shows you a lot of things on the barracks screen. RVT posted:Also, are there any mods that let you assign soldiers into squads in game. I've heard Long War 2 has this, but I don't think I have the time or interest in trying a full Long War campaign in the foreseeable future. However, I like to divide my agents up into "squads" and send them out together in regular WOTC, so if the LW2 sub-mod that does that is available separately, or there is another mod that does that, I'd be really interested. Try this Squad Manager that ports the LW2 squad system into WOTC. It's mostly cosmetic, but there's a link to one where it's an actual gameplay mechanic if that's more your speed.
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Torchlighter posted:Detailed Soldier Lists is probably the mod you're looking for, it shows you a lot of things on the barracks screen. You are the man, god drat. My searching on the Workshop was not finding anything. These look great. I'll try them out tomorrow. Thank you.
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I was about to reply “pfff who needs mods the interface is fine” before realizing this is one of like 4 games I use mods for almost exclusively to fix the busted interface (along with cool hats)
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OzyMandrill posted:I'm playing OXCE + FinalModPack at the moment, as it works just fine on an old android pad of my sons. OXCE is available on the play store, you just have to faff about getting the original game files and mods onto the device, but that's not very hard either. Have you played X-Com Files and am I understanding right that it has all of the content from Final Mod Pack? Or is it just built on the same framework? I'm planning on playing it next either way. I'm toward the end of a run of Reaver's Harmony now and it has been excellent, both you and the aliens are much more deadly and you get tech that's pretty divergent from the vanilla game like nighttime stealth suits with NVG, power swords, support/suppression tanks that fire smoke and incendiary grenades, lots of weapon classes at each tech level, etc. The manufacturing economy is based on breaking down alien weapons, corpses and ships into component parts that are used to manufacture human tech and the research and development does a good job of feeling like you're reverse engineering alien tech to adapt it into something new instead of just figuring out how to build alien tech. It does a lot of cool thematic stuff, like there's 'illegal' research you can do that shares your research with civilian manufacturers, which pisses off the council but it lets you buy a lot of your mid-tier equipment instead of manufacture it (it's pretty expensive though) - and sometimes they develop improved versions of your designs (like the aforementioned stealth suits). Soldiers die a lot but strong replacements are easy to hire and train. It feels kind of like a UFO Defense version of Long War with overall much more fighting, but faster missions, and once you get rolling it's like playing x-com but scaled up into a big global war instead of a small secret organization guerilla squad. deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Jun 26, 2022 |
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deep dish peat moss posted:Have you played X-Com Files and am I understanding right that it has all of the content from Final Mod Pack? Or is it just built on the same framework? I'm planning on playing it next either way. XCF contains the entirety of FMP, yes. It's made by the same person. As a pack it's incredibly long and if you're used to FMP should be a quick pickup. Rynoto fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Jun 26, 2022 |
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Oh, I explained that poorly - I've already played X-Com Files but I'm planning on playing FMP next  X-Com Files was cool but it was a bit too much, and I've appreciated Reaver's sticking to the concept of fight the aliens.
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Gasmask posted:my new favourite thing is parking an assault with Bladestorm on top of a reinforcement flare and letting him chop everyone to bits as they jump out of the landing craft This but "doing it entirely by accident" when a random lost horde spawns in  Hell of a  moment
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deep dish peat moss posted:Oh, I explained that poorly - I've already played X-Com Files but I'm planning on playing FMP next Oh in that case then yeah FMP is just Vanilla+ and very good on its own if you wanna shoot aliens.
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Yeah, Final+ is base game just fleshed out some more. More alien types/variety, much expanded tech tree, so mid-game is stretched out a fair bit. Tech-wise, not as much complexity as Reavers, but similar ideas - you need live lots of live captures again. I strongly reccomend using scout drones, even if just to get out the landing craft safely under a cover of smoke.
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deep dish peat moss posted:Have you played X-Com Files and am I understanding right that it has all of the content from Final Mod Pack? Or is it just built on the same framework? I'm planning on playing it next either way. Yeah, Harmony is really good- though my only complaint about it is the flagship grind. I get that he wants you to fight elite aliens some but i think i like it more when elites are just the game's way of telling you to pick up the pace. I usually notepad myself the flagship once i've gotten everything else done. One of the nice things about the mod is that it actually adds some additional factors in difficulty- for example, ship combat is more challenging on superhuman. Also, your soldiers are a lot more survivable on beginner because the personal armor works a lot better(though it still provides little protection from elites). The funniest bit is how the game has the sectoids start putting on power armor a few months into the game.
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Trying to get XCom Files to run, and I am not getting where to put the files for the mod. I got Open XCom Extended, it loads up, running with the steam version of Xcom ufo defense. Help? Edit: Nevermind, got it working. winterwerefox fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Jun 27, 2022 |
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So I’m playing Hybrid with expansions and is it me or are all the enemies way too spongy? I had a tank unload into a human mercenary and it did nothing, meanwhile they spam grenades at me and all my guys die. Yeah that’s X-Com, but should it be THAT rough or did I gently caress something up
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:So I’m playing Hybrid with expansions and is it me or are all the enemies way too spongy? I had a tank unload into a human mercenary and it did nothing, meanwhile they spam grenades at me and all my guys die. Yeah that’s X-Com, but should it be THAT rough or did I gently caress something up It could just be the X-Com damage formula. Remember in the original game weapons could do between 0-200% of their base damage so it was always entirely possible to hit something and just completely do nothing to it.
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Zore posted:It could just be the X-Com damage formula. Remember in the original game weapons could do between 0-200% of their base damage so it was always entirely possible to hit something and just completely do nothing to it. Could be, but it was way too consistently awful! I don’t mind a bit of fuckery but that was just too much.
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Zore posted:It could just be the X-Com damage formula. Remember in the original game weapons could do between 0-200% of their base damage so it was always entirely possible to hit something and just completely do nothing to it. Not to mention a lot of the mods and expansions make things like damage typing resistance much more important.
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Night10194 posted:Not to mention a lot of the mods and expansions make things like damage typing resistance much more important. Hell, this got important even in TFTD. Lobstermen would shrug off sonic shots all day long, but melee or stun damage would put them straight to bed no problem.
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:So I’m playing Hybrid with expansions and is it me or are all the enemies way too spongy? I had a tank unload into a human mercenary and it did nothing, meanwhile they spam grenades at me and all my guys die. Yeah that’s X-Com, but should it be THAT rough or did I gently caress something up I had this exact same experience when I tried Hybrid Mod - the first UFO I shot down was full of human mercs and two tanks - I savescummed that battle for like 30 minutes straight and even when my entire squad focused fire on them they (both the mercs and the tanks) would still be unscathed - I didn't stick around long enough to find out but I am pretty sure that you essentially have to hit them in the back (or with grenades maybe) when using early conventional weapons or else their armor is going to absorb 100% of the damage. At least that's how tanks in Harmony work - my Guardian tank can eat 30 shots of plasma pistol to the face without taking a scratch but one shot to the back and it's down. Realistically you should probably just avoid fighting mercs early on, because unlike sectoids they come armored and with tanks. deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Jun 27, 2022 |
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deep dish peat moss posted:Realistically you should probably just avoid fighting mercs early on, because unlike sectoids they come armored and with tanks. mate im not even facing tanks, the mercs take hits like they have power armour why are the loving humans, peer adversaries, harder than the aliens why do my troops get wounded for infinity time before any engagements HerpicleOmnicron5 fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Jun 27, 2022 |
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:mate im not even facing tanks, the mercs take hits like they have power armour One of the classic issues with fan-made games like this is that the folks who make it assume that all players will follow their hyper-optimized and very specific strategies and still want to be challenged. I'd assume there's some meta tactic out there to deal with the issue, but frankly it just sounds like janky design because playing the game first requires you to read the mind of the designer.
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Kaal posted:One of the classic issues with fan-made games like this is that the folks who make it assume that all players will follow their hyper-optimized and very specific strategies and still want to be challenged. I'd assume there's some meta tactic out there to deal with the issue, but frankly it just sounds like janky design because playing the game first requires you to read the mind of the designer. That and having trap enemies that look like the easier introduction. I dunno, maybe the tipoff that they're meant to be harder is that they come in Medium craft, but they're also so easily shot down without taking any damage. I also cannot see any reason to use the Skyranger over the new transport, nor the Interceptor over the new fighter. They just add options for no good reason. Sometimes all you need is Stun Rod vs Taser vs Pistol vs Rifle vs Auto-Cannon vs Heavy Cannon vs Rocket Launcher. That's your spectrum of weapons perfectly covered. Sure, a sniper rifle may be in scope, and shotguns are always fun, but do you need an Assault Rifle vs Rifle vs Machinegun (which is just a full auto rifle) versus a Light Machine Gun?
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Those issues are exactly why I bounced off Hybrid Mod but then I tried just Harmony alone and it is extremely fun
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Just found out about all those OpenXcom mods and holy poo poo this made me learn how to play this game properly 
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RVT posted:You are the man, god drat. My searching on the Workshop was not finding anything. These look great. I'll try them out tomorrow. Thank you. Installed those mods, loving them, they are exactly what I wanted. Is there a mod that adds more tiers of weapons? Not looking to convert the weapons into another IP's weapons, so the Long War ones look cool and make sense to me (https://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php/Weapons_(LWOTC)) , but after some searching, I can't find just the weapons as a stand alone mod and I don't really want to play full Long War.
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Apropos of nothing and with my full apologies today I drew a very buff sectoid, or a pectoid if you will
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RVT posted:Installed those mods, loving them, they are exactly what I wanted. Pretty much everything from Long War 2 has been ported to vanilla WOTC at some point or another you just gotta know where to look. Anyway, there's 2 mods that add coil and laser tiers to WOTC, the first being Weapon Tier Overhaul for War of the Chosen (Add Coil and Lasers anywhere). It's alright, comes working out the box with a Mod Config Menu seciton to help you place them in the order you prefer, although you may have to play with damage configs. The second is [WOTC] Iridar's Five Tier Weapon Overhaul - Vanilla Balance which is far more involved, but also includes Laser and Coil weapons for Faction characters and is built of iridar's template manage which, with a little bit of pseudo-coding, is arguably more robust and allows you to do all sorts of crazy things. Torchlighter fucked around with this message at 09:28 on Jun 30, 2022 |
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At the tail end of UFO Defense with Reaver's Harmony now and I have completely shifted the tides in my favor, and become a pacifist  Any time a UFO worthy of my attention shows up, I send out a Firestorm equipped with 2 Large Tractor Beams and 2 Medium Tractor Beams (and I have 3 such craft). They race over to it, blast it once or twice, and it gets grounded. Then they patrol overhead while my transport flies out, any time the ship lifts up, I ground it again.When the transport lands, I have 10 soldiers with Plasma Assault Cannons, two with Fusion Blaster Launchers, and between 6-10 psi troops who got implanted with advanced psi abilities and then spent a couple years training at a hidden base in Australia. They're all wearing the Stealth Assassin flying suits, so I buzz out of my craft and then chain-MC everything, drop their weapons, and march them right into my transport. With the Assassin armor my psychics can use MC 3 times per turn and after the implants and spending so long training they finished their training routine, even Ethereals are easy pickings for them. I just finished doing this to an Ethereal Battleship and only had to break out guns for the Sectopods. This is the much more humane solution as previously I would just MC them then prime and drop their grenades  poor mutons.So now I'm basically Pacifist Cops arresting all the aliens and still waiting for one of their Leaders to tell me where a goddamn base is under interrogation  a Commander is the last thing I need before I can head to Mars.Side-note: Wasn't there an X-Com fanfic back in the day about just how utterly terrifying Psionic players are? Like, your ship lands, one soldier flies out, then suddenly all of these aliens start priming and eating their own grenades, one by one and popping like popcorn. deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Jun 30, 2022 |
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deep dish peat moss posted:Side-note: Wasn't there an X-Com fanfic back in the day about just how utterly terrifying Psionic players are? Like, your ship lands, one soldier flies out, then suddenly all of these aliens start priming and eating their own grenades, one by one and popping like popcorn. In NuXCOM isn't that the core plotline? Humans have terrifying psychic potential.
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deep dish peat moss posted:Apropos of nothing and with my full apologies today I drew a very buff sectoid, or a pectoid if you will Can you draw him with a bulge haha I think it would be sooo funny
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Torchlighter posted:Pretty much everything from Long War 2 has been ported to vanilla WOTC at some point or another you just gotta know where to look. I play a lot of total warhammer and mod it, but not to a crazy degree, but just from casual observation, it does seem like there are standalone versions of all the big overhaul sub-mods available. I'm modding XCOM a bit more than I do total war, and I just search and search and I can't find what I'm looking for. Thanks again for the help. This is exactly what I was looking for.
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Jesus christ this game can be brutal if you gently caress around. I recently reinstalled xcom and had decided to do an iron-man legendary run. After maybe ten false starts (being in a poo poo position by the second month) I finally had my big break! Solid as gently caress A Team. Width on the bench. Scientists up my rear end in a top hat. Tricked out megahacker. Early mag weapons and luck with easy supply missions. Every single soldier named after a buddy. (Maybe one too few engineers tbh) Clock ticks up to 2 remaining blips. I have the skulljack, I just finished off the assassin and now I'm finally doing the blacksite. Feeling confident so I just bring 3 a teamers with a couple B siders. It's fine. It would've been fine. It's just a shitshow from the start. Stunlancer turns a bsider (Mox) unconscious. Assassin showing up even though I had just killed her. Accidentally pull a pod at the same time. A team sniper gets critted by chosen and is bleeding out. So already 2 down and I should be thinking about my exit strategy. Nah. Finally kill chosen but I miscounted the steps to go stabilise my sniper. 3 remaining dudes carry their dead and unconcious buddies towards the exit. Panick on some bull mini pod. Complete loving wipe. Can't even escape with my reaper. _______ Fine! I have a good bench! It's late and I'm tired but I can rebound! I'll just do one last guerilla op and level a couple sergeans that are close to promotion and then I should have time to do the facility again! I gently caress up. Way sloppy. Pull poo poo the wrong way. Don't decide to evac. Rage quit as my mind controlled ranger eats my team. Love the game. I just need to have little timeouts to check myself and TO ALWAYS REMEMBER TO EVACUATE IF YOU HAVE TO! gently caress. And also. gently caress all chosen. I'm going to try again tomorrow. Affi fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Jul 3, 2022 |
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