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SupSuper
Apr 8, 2009

At the Heart of the city is an Alien horror, so vile and so powerful that not even death can claim it.


Nordick posted:

Hype level: Through the roof and rising

Like, as much as I really like Xenonauts and made the thread for it and all, if there was a Xenonauts 2 announcement now I'd be like "prfft whatever"

This is gonna be a long loving week
Likewise. If OpenXcom development completely halts next week, you'll know why.

Oh is it kosher to mention OpenXcom in here? My threads never last.

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CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."


gfanikf posted:

People need FIOS. That's the issue. Uncapped and when wired to the computer I'm getting like 7mbs.

Lol...so it really is just greed stemming from monopolies then? Welp...

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> propitiate the dread god arengee

Pillbug

CrazyLoon posted:

Lol...so it really is just greed stemming from monopolies then? Welp...

It is a large percentage that, but the USA is kinda huge in terms of landmass and mostly sparsely populated west of the Mississippi, so there are sound (if really unfortunate) reasons for most of the country having poo poo all for internet infrastructure

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012


Claverjoe posted:

Yeah, I have 2 ISP choices, Comcast with 300 GB caps or AT&T with 250 GB cap and 1/4 the speeds.


Monopolies suck, y'all.

And I thought Canada's ISP selection was bad.

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 26, 2007




CrazyLoon posted:

I thought US capitalism was supposed to be all like: "Competition gets us the best of the best." while in my socialist country there's only a few that just go wherever and whoever calls on them, cause the infrastructure was laid all across the country. But then again, our country is also tiny compared to the wide swathes of the US.

You'd really need state-limited ISPs TBH. A few for a handful of states to compete between each other, as opposed to just a few big country ones which can pick and choose which parts of the country come into the modern civilized world, and which are stuck in the sub 1MB/s dark ages.

There used to be multiple regional telecoms in the United States, but guess what actually happens when there's unregulated competition

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

Could people please stop fighting the avatar war over my avatar. I really appreciate people being nice about it but I'm feeling crappier that people are wasting money because someone is an asshole than I am about the avatar in the first place.


CrazyLoon posted:

I thought US capitalism was supposed to be all like: "Competition gets us the best of the best." while in my socialist country there's only a few that just go wherever and whoever calls on them, cause the infrastructure was laid all across the country. But then again, our country is also tiny compared to the wide swathes of the US.

You'd really need state-limited ISPs TBH. A few for a handful of states to compete between each other, as opposed to just a few big country ones which can pick and choose which parts of the country come into the modern civilized world, and which are stuck in the sub 1MB/s dark ages.

That is how US Capitalism is supposed to work, but US Congressmen who are corrupt as gently caress and willing to sell state-sponsored monopolies kinda fucks everything up.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!


Zaphod42 posted:

That is how US Capitalism is supposed to work, but US Congressmen who are corrupt as gently caress and willing to sell state-sponsored monopolies kinda fucks everything up.

Yeah, basically the free market in the US translates to 'pro-Business' politicians bending over backwards to support their lobbyists and prevent any competition from emerging.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...band-in-kansas/

Fangz fucked around with this message at Jan 29, 2016 around 21:19

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

I'm Pacman Jones!


It also doesn't help that a whole lot of people who actually have the power to do something about the internet monopolies don't understand how the internet works and have no idea why anyone would need faster internet.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].



Zaphod42 posted:

I think they're running scared because Google Fiber is coming to town.

Some state senators in Kansas that are in Comcast's pocket tried passing a law banning Google Fiber from being in the state.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

ASK ME ABOUT BEING A NEO-LIBERAL DEATH CULT APOLOGIST!


Guys, you can talk about all the socialist BS you want in DnD. The rest of the world (including, most notably, me) doesn't care.


e: vvv jesus loving christ

LordNat
May 16, 2009


Got to love the insane level of corruption that we live under in the USA.

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."


The Iron Rose posted:

Guys, you can talk about all the socialist BS you want in DnD. The rest of the world (including, most notably, me) doesn't care.


e: vvv jesus loving christ

Lol, but yea...I was just curious for a quick answer, and I got it. No need for a debate here, I think. Still, thanks for that ARS link.

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012


Captain Oblivious posted:

XCOM 3 should just keep assuming we lost in the previous game. Okay so we failed in XCOM 2 again. Now lets stage an insurrection as Muton-esque enforcers during an invasion of another planet and prevent another Earth from happening!


They could also just pull a classic x-com "you won! but the earth isfucked because you triggered a calamity"

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

Skullgirls devs are perverts who are having an hangover after a succesful indiegogo. They watched the tropes vs women and they hate their fans, repented and now want to be seen as Legit Indie Game Developers in the IGF ballpit/circlejerk for hipsters.

Pomp has also an anime avatar.


Hm...fair competition and monopoly busting sounds like xcom propaganda citizen

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

Could people please stop fighting the avatar war over my avatar. I really appreciate people being nice about it but I'm feeling crappier that people are wasting money because someone is an asshole than I am about the avatar in the first place.


The Iron Rose posted:

Guys, you can talk about all the socialist BS you want in DnD. The rest of the world (including, most notably, me) doesn't care.


e: vvv jesus loving christ

You may as well check out for a week dude, there's not going to be anything in this thread other than snaketits and trying to kill time until the game comes out.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!


Hey I live in Kansas and the thing all you guys forget is the word "tried". The reason you must say this is because even in the demons and dragons big corp republican hellhole folks seem to think this place is, that proposal got laughed out of the state senate because the system isn't perfect but it generally works. It's like you are offended that someone even thought of a thing, which is way more oppressive than anything that's been proposed.

So thanks for being insensitive clods but I'd rather talk about OpenXCOM and all the cool stuff that project is doing and also it is 110% ok to talk about in this thread because it is XCOM and XCOM is good.

Ps: snake tits

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> propitiate the dread god arengee

Pillbug

yer mum's a snake tit

Ersatz
Sep 17, 2005



CrazyLoon posted:

I thought US capitalism was supposed to be all like: "Competition gets us the best of the best." while in my socialist country there's only a few that just go wherever and whoever calls on them, cause the infrastructure was laid all across the country. But then again, our country is also tiny compared to the wide swathes of the US.
Unfortunately, the advantages of the free market only manifest in the absence of significant market power. It's difficult for new providers to enter the broadband market, and our regulators (FCC) haven't been doing a lot lately to fix that problem. As such, the broadband market in the US is characterized by regional duopolies, and under those conditions there's little incentive for existing companies to provide quality service. Aside from giving a poo poo. And they don't.

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."


^ lol...what have I started?

Zaphod42 posted:

You may as well check out for a week dude, there's not going to be anything in this thread other than snaketits and trying to kill time until the game comes out.

I suppose we could just revert to the staple hype posting, but yea...might as well go on GameFAQs for just that.

So as to the subject mentioned above, I can't wait to meet snake tits in the game so that I can chop 'em all up and feed 'em to the non-announced 6th class of Shen's gift, that will no doubt be the much-anticipated dog class.

LordNat
May 16, 2009


CrazyLoon posted:

^ lol...what have I started?


I suppose we could just revert to the staple hype posting, but yea...might as well go on GameFAQs for just that.

So as to the subject mentioned above, I can't wait to meet snake tits in the game so that I can chop 'em all up and feed 'em to the non-announced 6th class of Shen's gift, that will no doubt be the much-anticipated dog class.

I expect it to go down something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJJOvrBHPSQ

Ersatz
Sep 17, 2005



LordNat posted:

Got to love the insane level of corruption that we live under in the USA.
Hey friend, corporations are people, and people have the right to speak their minds*!

*by making massive and essentially unregulated campaign contributions.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

ASK ME ABOUT BEING A NEO-LIBERAL DEATH CULT APOLOGIST!




Anime Schoolgirl posted:

I'd like to hear Junpei's hot take on these current events,

also XCOM's socialist-anarchist platform

actually wait that could actually save this page

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

~perfect~
battlebrother





I'd like to hear Junpei's hot take on these current events,

also XCOM's socialist-anarchist platform

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

Could people please stop fighting the avatar war over my avatar. I really appreciate people being nice about it but I'm feeling crappier that people are wasting money because someone is an asshole than I am about the avatar in the first place.


LordNat posted:

I expect it to go down something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJJOvrBHPSQ

What the heck is this and why are they microwaving dogs?!

Wizard Styles
Aug 6, 2014



CrazyLoon posted:

^ lol...what have I started?
The derail of a thread for an unreleased video game.

A grave sin indeed.

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

Skullgirls devs are perverts who are having an hangover after a succesful indiegogo. They watched the tropes vs women and they hate their fans, repented and now want to be seen as Legit Indie Game Developers in the IGF ballpit/circlejerk for hipsters.

Pomp has also an anime avatar.


xcom 2: feel the bern

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

~perfect~
battlebrother





Pomp posted:

xcom 2: feel the bern
Make Sol III Great Again

LordNat
May 16, 2009


Zaphod42 posted:

What the heck is this and why are they microwaving dogs?!

Metal Saga. It is part of a really strange line of JRPGs focused on driving tanks around a post apocalyptic world. Really great but really strange game. Worth checking out if you like games where you hunt wild buses around the desert to capture and strap rocket pods to.

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."


LordNat posted:

Metal Saga. It is part of a really strange line of JRPGs focused on driving tanks around a post apocalyptic world. Really great but really strange game. Worth checking out if you like games where you hunt wild buses around the desert to capture and strap rocket pods to.

It has dogs in it, so I might actually do that at some point in the future.

EDIT: Also, I hope this picture of a dog will save this page, since I'd rather not see Junpei return just yet.

CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at Jan 29, 2016 around 21:53

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008


splifyphus posted:

On one of the failed runs it was the most intense mission I've ever played. I had two guys go down in the first encounter but managed to stabilize them both before they bled out. I finished the rest of the mission with a support and an assault, only to have the NPC get sniped two tiles from the extraction zone by the thin man who spawns on the other side of the map. Ok, so I failed the mission, but I'm still bringing everyone home alive! I get my remaining two soldiers into the zone, only to have the game tell me that if I leave now the guys still on the battlefield are toast. So, I go and kill the remaining thin man and end the mission that way. The stats screen comes up - zero soldiers lost. Hell yes.

In the original you could huck peoples bodies around.

Whenever I captured an alien I'd drag it back to the skyranger where a rookie with a shock prod could smack it any time they woke up (Because they could wake up in the original).

X-Com remastered would be something I'd totally play. The modern games have the occasional "And then catastrophy struck" moments. But really nothing compares to kicking the skyranger door open, and an etherial that's right across the street immediately panics the blaster bomb toting dude into nuking the entire squad.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

Could people please stop fighting the avatar war over my avatar. I really appreciate people being nice about it but I'm feeling crappier that people are wasting money because someone is an asshole than I am about the avatar in the first place.


LordNat posted:

Metal Saga. It is part of a really strange line of JRPGs focused on driving tanks around a post apocalyptic world. Really great but really strange game. Worth checking out if you like games where you hunt wild buses around the desert to capture and strap rocket pods to.

Why would you name a game "metal saga" when there's things like "metal gear solid", "metal slug", "full metal jacket","full metal alchemist"... it just seems confusing. Games have terrible names.

XCOM is a very unique and good name though

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."


Rhymenoserous posted:

In the original you could huck peoples bodies around.

Whenever I captured an alien I'd drag it back to the skyranger where a rookie with a shock prod could smack it any time they woke up (Because they could wake up in the original).

X-Com remastered would be something I'd totally play. The modern games have the occasional "And then catastrophy struck" moments. But really nothing compares to kicking the skyranger door open, and an etherial that's right across the street immediately panics the blaster bomb toting dude into nuking the entire squad.

Hopefully, in XCOM2 the condition to researching alien corpses could be: "You have to have one soldier pick it up and lug it around, or take it back to the Skyranger, in order to get the option of dissecting it back at base." Or at least, that would be a cool thing to mod in for the realism folks anywho.

LordNat
May 16, 2009


Zaphod42 posted:

Why would you name a game "metal saga" when there's things like "metal gear solid", "metal slug", "full metal jacket","full metal alchemist"... it just seems confusing. Games have terrible names.

XCOM is a very unique and good name though

But how can they be a Extraterrestrial Combat Unit if they are all humans?

Thyrork
Apr 21, 2010



WARNING:
Crushes tea, and tea-related rebels.


Slippery Tilde

SupSuper posted:

Likewise. If OpenXcom development completely halts next week, you'll know why.

Oh is it kosher to mention OpenXcom in here? My threads never last.

It loving better be. OpenXcom is doing important work.

binge crotching
Apr 2, 2010


Rhymenoserous posted:

Whenever I captured an alien I'd drag it back to the skyranger where a rookie with a shock prod could smack it any time they woke up (Because they could wake up in the original).

I was worried that would happen the first couple of times I stunned one in the new version. I don't miss that at all. If those fuckers get stunned, they should drat well stay stunned unless woken up by an alien with a medkit.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!


Thyrork posted:

It loving better be. OpenXcom is doing important work.

OpenXcom is cool and good

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

~perfect~
battlebrother





maybe with openxcom we'll have things that make sense, like using laser and plasma weapons on overland TFTD maps

Kaboom Dragoon
May 7, 2010

The greatest of feasts

Is OpenTFTD at a point where it can be completed by us complete scrublords mere mortals yet?

winterwerefox
Apr 23, 2010

The next movie better not make me shave anything

People said snake tits

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Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008


SeaTard posted:

I was worried that would happen the first couple of times I stunned one in the new version. I don't miss that at all. If those fuckers get stunned, they should drat well stay stunned unless woken up by an alien with a medkit.

It didn't bother me too much. I always left a guy in the skyranger so I could at least get that back when poo poo went horribly wrong. So he'd get prisoner duty, and more often than not he was also on blaster bomb duty since "Why the gently caress not?"

There's a lot of stuff I miss from the original. Designing my bases so they'd be kill zones for anyone attacking was a big one.

3 Hangars at the top connected to the rest of the base via the elevator. You can just put four dudes in the next set of rooms south of the elevators on overwatch. It was basically a plasma weapon/grenade/etc farm.

What I don't miss is having to man/arm all my auxiliary basis instead of just having one really good base. You needed at least 4-6 dudes on "Defense Duty" for any interceptor bases you had setup or they'd get eaten.

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