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marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me


It'd be funny if the aliens could have random war bonds, but given that they are basically all puppets I guess they don't really have personal attachments or motivations.

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Annointed
Mar 2, 2013



LordNat posted:

Ricochet attack that shoots a Grenade in the air to make it go around a corner.

Heffer posted:

I know the War Bond thing just means a soldier will pick up Shredder from their Gunner buddy, but I really wish it enabled joint super-moves. Like, Grenadier applies rupture to all visible targets before Sharpshooter hits them all with Faceoff

Psyops gives Ranger space magic buffs and then the Ranger throws an energy sword blade at all enemies.

Specialist drone attaches to SPARK fist to create EMP Power Fist.

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004
Im gonna put cupcakes on your mind


Killzone but with rockets

Killzone for the ranger's sword attacks

Etc

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!


A sword attack except they high five afterwards

scaterry
Sep 12, 2012


Batter up: Ranger/Grenadier bond specific attack that just rapid fires grenades in a killzone like range randomized upon ranger's batting skills.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

Even in death I still post


Yams Fan

Fangz posted:

A sword attack except they high five afterwards

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015


So. How deep into the ground do you think the Long War guys are going to nerf the Reaper class?

JohnnyOso
Oct 9, 2007
The Secret Things I wanna find out.

Inversely proportional to however useful the reaper class is.

Alternatively: As the fun of using any class approaches a hypothetical 100%, so does the visceral need for LW devs to nerf that motherfucker into oblivion.

Zomborgon
Feb 19, 2014

I don't even want to see what happens if you gain CHIM outside of a pre-coded system.


Fangz posted:

A sword attack except they high five afterwards

Oh man, it would be great if I could have two bonded rangers perform a twin sword strike against a single target. Perhaps that could remove dodge chance and/or give a crit bonus chance.

Xarbala
Feb 13, 2011

Rolling Thunder: War to the Knife, Knife to the Hilt

Why? , that's why.

jfood posted:

That's pretty much all of Musha... Mushi... that one dude's mods all mashed into one class. That loving owns.

Can't even remember Miyamoto Mushimushi's name, a shameful goon

Dongicus
Jun 11, 2015



All of the LW classes besides sparks are solid. Base game doesn't offer anything as fun as an implacable sawn-off ranger. So I have faith, Literal LW apologist here.

JohnnyOso posted:

Inversely proportional to however useful the reaper class is.

Alternatively: As the fun of using any class approaches a hypothetical 100%, so does the visceral need for LW devs to nerf that motherfucker into oblivion.

the grenadier broke any challenge the game offered my dude

Dongicus
Jun 11, 2015



oh and technicals still suck nuts if they dont go flame-thrower spec

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I just *LOVE* spoonheads

JohnnyOso posted:

Inversely proportional to however useful the reaper class is.

Alternatively: As the fun of using any class approaches a hypothetical 100%, so does the visceral need for LW devs to nerf that motherfucker into oblivion.

Also, any mechanics that make reapers reliable sources of anything must be nerfed into RNG to keep players from becoming complacent and confident.

Xarbala
Feb 13, 2011

Rolling Thunder: War to the Knife, Knife to the Hilt

Why? , that's why.

I pumped up the damage and crit damage of the katana mod by like twenty and for the first use of Reaper in a session I always make sure to turn on either Rules of Nature or Yakety Sax on my phone, depending on how spicy I'm feeling.

One time I did it I fatfingered "The Next Episode" by Dr. Dre featuring Snoop et al. and I decided to run with it.

Stephen9001
Oct 28, 2013


Cythereal posted:

Also, any mechanics that make reapers reliable sources of anything must be nerfed into RNG to keep players from becoming complacent and confident.

I mean, I get the idea behind this, it making so that nothing is 100% reliable means you will be forced into situations where you must take risk and cannot take anything for granted, thus providing challenge (or at least, forcing people out of their comfort zone), it's just that it turns out making nothing 100% reliable is highly unfun to most people.

I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015


Stephen9001 posted:

I mean, I get the idea behind this, it making so that nothing is 100% reliable means you will be forced into situations where you must take risk and cannot take anything for granted, thus providing challenge (or at least, forcing people out of their comfort zone), it's just that it turns out making nothing 100% reliable is highly unfun to most people.

This seems to be Long War in a nutshell.

A massive collection of ideas that seem fun in theory, but in practice, actually SUCK.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014


BlazetheInferno posted:

This seems to be Long War in a nutshell.

A massive collection of ideas that seem fun in theory, but in practice, actually SUCK.

Ahh mlmp...

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE


Zomborgon posted:

Oh man, it would be great if I could have two bonded rangers perform a twin sword strike against a single target. Perhaps that could remove dodge chance and/or give a crit bonus chance.

Call it X-Strike and name your soldiers chrono and frog

jfood
Jan 21, 2015


All those big LW nerfs, plus reducing colonel rank Reaper aim by one, for some loving unfathomable reason.

Always in the patch notes. Always.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I just *LOVE* spoonheads

Stephen9001 posted:

I mean, I get the idea behind this, it making so that nothing is 100% reliable means you will be forced into situations where you must take risk and cannot take anything for granted, thus providing challenge (or at least, forcing people out of their comfort zone), it's just that it turns out making nothing 100% reliable is highly unfun to most people.

I'm okay with most of my stuff not being 100% reliable, but I also really like having one or two aces up my sleeve that I can count on in a clinch.

Then again, I'm also one of those players who doesn't really like building up a huge bench. I like developing a core A-team armed to the teeth, and I find that makes losses and mistakes much more meaningful. It's not time for another timmy, it's a real blow to lose one of my priceless soldiers to the medbay for a long time or worse yet losing them permanently.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.

Am I the only one who still really enjoys LW2?

I take the riskier moves first so there are still backup options, and a majority of the shots that my snipers and assaults take are still 100%. The game is definitely slowing down now but it's not the worst thing ever. Yet anyways.

Exposure
Apr 4, 2014


After beating it up I'm enjoying the core gameplay of LW2 well enough, it's just that like its predecessor I still have the fundamental issue with the Long part.

Specifically, the fact that doing jailbreaks and whatever is fun the first, second, even third time around.

After the tenth time though I really want to find out who's brilliant idea it was to come up with the Vigilance mechanic and making it affect the Avatar Project timer depending on how many missions the player has done in the month, because man LW2 missions start blurring together hard after long enough.

Past a point you're not really doing anything actually engaging, you're pretty much just doing bland feeling mission after bland feeling mission for the sake of not being sucker punched by a surprise bout of avatar project points just as you're about to advance the story, rather than as part of any greater strategy.

Like the early game's actually really fun to me since it feels like I'm working for concrete goals (get this scientist, liberate this region, get more recruits, etc) instead of it me just wrecking ADVENT's poo poo constantly so they don't ruin my poo poo out of the blue.

Dallan Invictus
Oct 11, 2007

The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes, look for them behind words that have changed their meaning.

counterfeitsaint posted:

Am I the only one who still really enjoys LW2?

Not in the least. I'm still enjoying it though I think it could use something like LW1's Dynamic War option.

If everyone hated it it wouldn't be controversial and nobody would bother talking about it. It's just that just ENOUGH people hate it that the slapfights that discussing it often starts can have two sides.

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015


Personally, I love what I understand it does to the Tactical layer (for the most part, the utter powerlessness of grenades to destroy cover outside of two perks annoys me), but I hate nearly everything they did to the Strategy Layer.

Bolow
Feb 27, 2007



Apparently in the new photo booth mode, bonded soldiers get special poses they can do with each other. Also you can take a photo after every successful mission and pose each soldier individually.

All these changes and posing my loving gi joes is the thing I'm looking forward to the most

Eschatos
Apr 10, 2013

I am a banana of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance.

Goddamn, I just had an excellent campaign ruined by an unlucky hidden event. Now that the expansion is coming out I wanted to go back and finally beat the game, on Classic Ironman. After half a dozen lost campaigns I finally got far enough to get a captain and a full sized squad. Then all of a sudden a hidden event trips to add the last two pips to the Avatar project and start the timer while I'm still three regions away from any facility. Naturally I dropped everything to focus research on intel items and started making contact. But after a frantic terror mission playing carefully to keep my best soldiers alive and unwounded for the facility raid, I ended up short four intel and had to build a radio tower, putting the final region contact two days out of reach. Time for a break from this game.

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss


Doesn't the ADVENT blacksite always generate one connection away from your starting region? Your objectives say you could still complete that. Even in that screenshot I can see the mission is unlocked and can be started right away.

Eschatos
Apr 10, 2013

I am a banana of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance.

Vib Rib posted:

Doesn't the ADVENT blacksite always generate one connection away from your starting region? Your objectives say you could still complete that. Even in that screenshot I can see the mission is unlocked and can be started right away.

Wait, would that have reset the timer? I thought only the actual Avatar facilities did.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem

Eschatos posted:

Wait, would that have reset the timer? I thought only the actual Avatar facilities did.

Finishing plot goals (including the black site) also takes pips off the avatar progress.

Eschatos
Apr 10, 2013

I am a banana of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance.

Jabor posted:

Finishing plot goals (including the black site) also takes pips off the avatar progress.

And of course it lets me load the game back up with five hours on the clock, which is just enough time to fly to the black site and then immediately lose.

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

no user serviceable parts inside



Eschatos posted:

And of course it lets me load the game back up with five hours on the clock, which is just enough time to fly to the black site and then immediately lose.

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Foglet
Jun 17, 2014

Reality is an illusion.
The universe is a hologram.
Buy gold.


Bolow posted:

bonded soldiers get special poses they can do with each other.

I hope it means what I think it means.

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