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I reinstalled long war for EW and plan to start a new game with no changes to the ini at the moment. Is there any common recommendations for tweaking the ini? I've gotten better at New XCOM since the last time I played ew, but I remember being especially annoyed by thin men. I will be removing lightning reflexes from chrysalis though, gently caress that poo poo.
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Just snagged this for PS4. Just want to confirm, class is decided when you promote rookies right? There is no reason for me to try and sit on a few promotions and then design builds that way?
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Apr 19, 2018 23:39
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^burtle posted:Just snagged this for PS4. Just want to confirm, class is decided when you promote rookies right? There is no reason for me to try and sit on a few promotions and then design builds that way? Yes, the class of a rookie is determined when he levels up to squaddie. This can happen either when the rookie earns enough experience and levels up to a random class, or after a five day training course in the Guerrilla Tactics School where they turn into the class you trained them for.
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Apr 20, 2018 00:38
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Drakhoran posted:Yes, the class of a rookie is determined when he levels up to squaddie. This can happen either when the rookie earns enough experience and levels up to a random class, or after a five day training course in the Guerrilla Tactics School where they turn into the class you trained them for. Makes sense, appreciate it!
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Apr 20, 2018 00:40
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lmao, I dismantled a workshop with an engineer staffing it and the engineer died.
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Apr 20, 2018 04:33
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Apr 20, 2018 12:58
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Serephina posted:Huh? I had an engineer staffing a workshop, then I decomissioned the workshop without first de-staffing it, and then I had one fewer engineer. This is also the first campaign I’ve played where I’m absolutely starving for alien alloys. What gives? This has never been an issue for me, so I’ve never paid attention to where they actually come from before. Even the black market isn’t carrying any.
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Apr 20, 2018 13:34
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I've been thinking about how Reapers, although really cool and great for ambushes, seem a little lacklustre in the lategame and on higher difficulties, and I think it has to do with the fact that they're stealthy scouts in a game that has Battle Scanners. As soon as you get those things, there's much less value in scouting ahead with a Reaper, and while their stealth abilities can still be quite useful, they're situational compared to "shoot more bullets" and "armour-ignoring psionic melee attack that never misses and lets you return to cover after doing it." As I see it, there are three ways that Reapers could be made a bit more competitive while retaining and building on their unique design space:
I really love their sneaky hit-and-run Snidely Whiplash playstyle and I wish it was less situational.
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Apr 20, 2018 19:58
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Lategame Reaper is all about Banish + huge magazines on their gun + the other perk that lets them keep firing.
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Apr 20, 2018 20:02
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Huh. Different playstyles, I guess. For me reapers are by far the most powerful of the three hero factions. They mean you essentially never, ever have to take a bad engagement in a game where bad engagements are by far and away the biggest threat to you, and once you unlock some of their more advanced abilities they can fight in a very meaningful manner while STILL providing perfect advance scouting and battlefield intelligence.
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Apr 20, 2018 20:03
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See the thing about that is that Scanners are ludicrously good at that same thing, and they take up an equipment slot instead of a soldier slot. Banish is indeed approaching busted-as-hell with how good it is, though. I just find that once the squad is revealed, a Reaper's role tends to degenerate more to a small bag of one-and-done tricks. Maybe I need to try playing a little more aggressively with them.
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Apr 20, 2018 20:12
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Light Gun Man posted:Lategame Reaper is all about Banish + huge magazines on their gun + the other perk that lets them keep firing. They can do that 1/mission. All of their tricks are really limited like that. You only ever get 1 claymore, Sting has a single charge, you only get the 1 re-shadow etc. Just about the only consistent ability they have is the one that lets them do clean up from concealment. Playing with A Better Advent and larger enemy squads in general really starts showing their weaknesses since once they run out of their big 1/off tricks they're basically deadweight for the rest of the mission. And when you have multiple 5+ enemy pods full of units that you can't one-shot with the Claymore it starts feeling pretty dicey to field them since their normal damage is so anemic.
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Apr 20, 2018 20:18
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Angry Diplomat posted:See the thing about that is that Scanners are ludicrously good at that same thing, and they take up an equipment slot instead of a soldier slot. You are limited to battle scanners though, vs reapers who (if you have the time) you can use to completely control pods. I don't think they are over-powered (as I think all the WOTC classes are purposefully situational) but it is not at all uncommon for my reapers to be MVPs on missions where they've been able to control the battle flow. For many missions, I'm happy to trade a soldier slot in order to control when and how pods will be engaged. For other missions that is a bad trade, but that is true of all classes (except ranger).
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Apr 20, 2018 20:19
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Claymores allow you to delete / soften pods without breaking concealment and on those occasions when you luck into a good detonation... it's nice
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Apr 20, 2018 20:20
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I agree that Reapers are the strongest faction unit. Skirmishers are pretty consistent but not OP, Templars are insane early/mid but fall off lategame pretty hard. Reapers mean you don't have to carry battle scanners, they can eliminate entire pods with claymore/grenade combos, and they can consistently get great flank shots with their huge mobility and the sting skill, plus the one that makes their first shot have 0% reveal chance. That's not even mentioning their ability to just outright remove Sectopods with banish if you give them blue-screens. I don't think I even built a battle scanner on my last legendary game. They've completely replaced phantom rangers, who were already pretty strong scouting units in the base game. In other news, bugs in this game continue to be completely infuriating. Just had a soldier go down and was unable to pick them up (I knew it was the correct square because I couldn't move there). At least I was able to get a stabilize so they were merely captured. I have been experimenting with larger squad and enemy pod sizes, plus a bunch of custom classes. It's pretty fun but lost missions are complete clusterfucks- I kind of like it even if it's super punishing. I need to find whatever mod adds lost boomers and remove them though, I hate those things.
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Apr 20, 2018 20:23
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I'd be all for more stealth damage / kill stuff. Musashi's mods add some kind of option for this but I still don't seem to fully understand the mechanic. Even if it lets you knife kill an advent dude I don't see how you're gonna do that without his podmates seeing you so...?
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Apr 20, 2018 20:29
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Blisster posted:I agree that Reapers are the strongest faction unit. Skirmishers are pretty consistent but not OP, Templars are insane early/mid but fall off lategame pretty hard. Reapers mean you don't have to carry battle scanners, they can eliminate entire pods with claymore/grenade combos, and they can consistently get great flank shots with their huge mobility and the sting skill, plus the one that makes their first shot have 0% reveal chance. That's not even mentioning their ability to just outright remove Sectopods with banish if you give them blue-screens. Boomers are from A Better Advent. Easily the worst enemy type it adds now that he's nerfed the 'Prime' enemies.
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Apr 20, 2018 20:35
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Light Gun Man posted:I'd be all for more stealth damage / kill stuff. Musashi's mods add some kind of option for this but I still don't seem to fully understand the mechanic. Even if it lets you knife kill an advent dude I don't see how you're gonna do that without his podmates seeing you so...? That sounds useful to use melee kills to mop up an enemy who is the last remaining/seperated from his pod using someone who hasn't lost concealment from the rest of the squad. Basically retains your concealment of 1 guy while still delivering some damage.
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Apr 20, 2018 21:24
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I like using templars, I love space magic and the melee is a plus
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Apr 20, 2018 21:45
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AppleDan posted:I like using templars, I love space magic and the melee is a plus It's especially fun when you get Parry, Bladestorm, and Reaper on the same Templar in the early game and they just absolutely trample everything in their path with their numerous  focused strikes of power!
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Apr 20, 2018 22:01
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Angry Diplomat posted:It's especially fun when you get Parry, Bladestorm, and Reaper on the same Templar in the early game and they just absolutely trample everything in their path with their numerous They must not fail!
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Apr 20, 2018 22:04
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Angry Diplomat posted:It's especially fun when you get Parry, Bladestorm, and Reaper on the same Templar in the early game and they just absolutely trample everything in their path with their numerous WAAAGGHH
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Apr 20, 2018 22:29
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Zore posted:Playing with A Better Advent and larger enemy squads in general really starts showing their weaknesses since once they run out of their big 1/off tricks they're basically deadweight for the rest of the mission. And when you have multiple 5+ enemy pods full of units that you can't one-shot with the Claymore it starts feeling pretty dicey to field them since their normal damage is so anemic. Reapers have the biggest crit damage bonus. Get more crits.
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Apr 20, 2018 22:39
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VHGS posted:Reapers have the biggest crit damage bonus. Get more crits. I did not know this! Time to start giving laser sights to my Reapers (expanded magazines come later, for Banish).
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Apr 20, 2018 22:44
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Im playing with the LW2 Class Pack and Expanded Mags + Area Supression sure is fun
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Apr 20, 2018 23:38
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Reapers can take potshots at enemies while still in shadow, can blow up an entire weaker pod with a claymore AND get back into shadow (and they get two claymores), single-handedly take out a Gatekeeper with Banish and a good ammo mod, and maybe get a lucky environmental explosive. Also they can track Chosen or other enemies when they move out of your LOS. Reapers are insane.
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Apr 21, 2018 01:30
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Reapers can basically stay in stealth an entire fight. It's hard to overstate how useful that alone is.
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Apr 21, 2018 02:22
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Have any interesting mods come out in the last few months?
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Apr 21, 2018 03:58
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I've been having a hell of a time with this Commander Ironman run. All of my Rangers get killed immediately when I send them out. It doesn't matter how I equip them, how carefully I play, or what kind of mission I send them on. The first mission they embark on, there will be an Officer who marks them so a MEC can waste them with a crit, or a Muton who manages to survive four 95% shots and then runs around and scores a fluke one-shot flanking crit, or a Stun Lancer who runs through the entire squad and across half the map to knock them out and then the building they're in burns down or something. Just now I had the Warlock run into the room, summon two ghost troopers with Spectral Army, and then sit around making snide comments while those troopers spotted my team, ran forward, immediately got to take a turn, ran around my only Ranger and absolutely evaporated him with two flanking crits, all before I got to take any action. I just sat there and stared at the screen for a minute. I now have close to two dozen soldiers and zero of them are Rangers. 
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Apr 21, 2018 04:04
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Angry Diplomat posted:I've been having a hell of a time with this Commander Ironman run. All of my Rangers get killed immediately when I send them out. It doesn't matter how I equip them, how carefully I play, or what kind of mission I send them on. The first mission they embark on, there will be an Officer who marks them so a MEC can waste them with a crit, or a Muton who manages to survive four 95% shots and then runs around and scores a fluke one-shot flanking crit, or a Stun Lancer who runs through the entire squad and across half the map to knock them out and then the building they're in burns down or something. I've noticed that sometimes the game just shits on one of your troopers. I've had field medics hit with some of the hardest shits when the aliens spot us. My snipers also get 15% shot from across the map a lot.
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Apr 21, 2018 08:09
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Just got XCOM 1 again having never played EW. Starting my EW runs on Classic cause I could do commander on xcom 2 no problem and my goodness is EW classic tough. I know gotta use hunker down more but the moment I reach the first bomb defuse stage things just go wrong. Any tips? Also in for a rude awakening when I remembered rockets aren't 100% accurate and can hit your buddy in front of you
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Apr 21, 2018 16:09
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Yea, nades being 100% in X2 was a letdown, as it just means you use them as trick-shots instead of giving them generous spacing as you'd imagine you'd want to do with explosives.
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Apr 21, 2018 16:32
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It didn't happen often but a big part of what made rockets fun were those rare occasions where the rocket went catastrophically off-course.
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Apr 21, 2018 16:37
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I love the new XCOMs to bits. The things they did made it easier for a reasonable person to just pick up and play the dang game. But holy smokes do the originals still hold up, especially OpenXcom taking the edge off the sillier relics of its design. The new games definitely create stories and a lot of tension, but you give the original a shot and it'll still show you why fans were demanding a sequel/update for almost twenty years insistently. The ramp hits the ground on the first terror mission and I'm delighted for 3 reasons 1. Its daylight 2. I rushed laser pistols, so if nothing else I can have my poor unfortunates rabbit around in the open while the marksmen can get their Imperial Guard roleplay on 3. It's floaters OpenXcom gets rid of the 80 item limit, so you can do grown-up tactics like carrying reloads for the big guns on your rookies and boy howdy was I ever ready to Do The Dew going into this mission with a dozen autocannon belts on my dozen squaddies--attrition meant I couldn't quite fill the skyranger at the end of the month which is always a good sign. I had 3 autocannons chambered with AP shells along with the obligatory rocket launcher, assuming it was gonna be sectoids and cyberdisks. That I'd be dealing with neither Cyberdisk Accuracy nor goddamned sectoid mind control was a relief, so I threw the obligatory smoke on the ramp and went out into the mess. Five floaters were camping the ramp, but no Reapers--biomechanical lovechildren of pigs and battle tanks-- and we have smoke cover on most of the approach angles to the ramp so no worries. Only two squaddies dead on the first turn, this ain't my first rodeo. We're in the southeast corner and all the Reapers are hooting and dooting in and around some shops and houses in the northwest. This is good because Reapers have lots of TUs and instamurder everything in melee, but is slightly problematic because thats a lot of health in a small area. Which is why I brought the rocket launcher on "Tiny" my best veteran--and ranking officer present. Just line up that shot at the occupied civilian residences in the distance, aaaaaannnnnnnd: She shoots the loving thing square in the middle of my base of fire element. Two instadead, two bleeding out, and a civilian for salt. Now its a game. Now I gotta give a poo poo. Next turn I reload the rocket and switch over as many autocannons to HE as I can to start bringing down the Reapers as well as the structures they're using to hide. Did I mention how nice it is to be able to bring extra ammo? A second rocket on the next turn evaporates a house on the far north of the map and the floaters inside, but the Reapers just keep coming and coming and coming. One of them gets close, but stop next to a corner store to give the third and last rocket a nice little. Tiny--the best of the best we have to offer--shoots it 45 degrees off target and straight into the back of the second best squaddie I had, who was already bleeding from the first rocket. Stunned, I move up a laser pistol grenadier from out of his covered position behind the landing gear and fire off an auto burst just to end this farce. The farce is just beginning because with 3 shots taken, two of them perfectly assassinate two civilians on each side of the Reaper. By this point I'm in shock at how unnecessarily complicated this has become. I believe this is the point I shrugged and said "We've probably run out of WarCrimes to do"  One more floater later we corner the last Reaper behind a fence in front of another apartment. Triangulated HE Autocannon fire settles for him, as well as the entire south-facing side of some poor landlord's property. Probably another civilian too. I wasn't counting by that point. By the end we were completely out of all dozen or so autocannon belts, all the rockets, and most of our grenades. If I was still on rifles I'm pretty sure I'd have run out of ammo entirely. Eighty. Five. Points. I don't think I've ever scored so low on a successful mission before. i loving love this game so much
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Apr 21, 2018 17:23
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AppleDan posted:I've noticed that sometimes the game just shits on one of your troopers. I've had field medics hit with some of the hardest shits when the aliens spot us. My snipers also get 15% shot from across the map a lot. Update: managed to pull a no-casualties win out of an insanely stressful mission that involved three Squaddies and almost killed my best Grenadier, and then the game decided to hang after the post-mission loading screen. Now it looks like my savegame is corrupted. I was playing on console too, so I'm just straight hosed I guess 
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Apr 21, 2018 17:43
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Reapers can get a second claymore, and if you use the sticky bomb thing it means it sets one shot from any of your soldiers to 100% accuracy. This makes them super good at killing hard to hit chosen in high cover. Sticky them and shoot them with a holotarget grenadier - cover elimination, holotarget, and shred simultaneously. You can banish after if you wanna.
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Apr 21, 2018 18:20
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Angry Diplomat posted:Update: managed to pull a no-casualties win out of an insanely stressful mission that involved three Squaddies and almost killed my best Grenadier, and then the game decided to hang after the post-mission loading screen. Now it looks like my savegame is corrupted. I was playing on console too, so I'm just straight hosed I guess gosh I feel this super hard, I play on PC but i've had a hangup after one of the best strokes of luck i've ever had in this game. A snippy got assaulted by a muton and then crit him with her pistol at point blank, saving her life. The game hangs up then, and when I reload she misses the shot every single time despite it being a 95%. Every miss she had just straight up killed her on the next turn, I ended up moving her and letting the muton work over one of my other troopers instead. No one ended up dying, but gently caress that hangup for taking my cool muton kill.
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Apr 21, 2018 20:11
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So first time I've had this problem, but when I opened XCom 2 today I got the usual "file load error" that happens every now and again, only this time there were no items in my mod list, despite having just added several. I'm validating files now, but has this happened to anyone else that knows a solution in case validating files doesn't work?
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Apr 22, 2018 02:20
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Willie Tomg posted:Eighty. Five. Points. I don't think I've ever scored so low on a successful mission before. It's been years since I played openXcom, and decades since I played TFTD, but isn't a really-good score lategame something like 2,000? That's a whoooole lotta civvies you just murdered, that's awesome.
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marshmallow creep posted:So first time I've had this problem, but when I opened XCom 2 today I got the usual "file load error" that happens every now and again, only this time there were no items in my mod list, despite having just added several. I'm validating files now, but has this happened to anyone else that knows a solution in case validating files doesn't work? I would check to see what Steam is downloading, because this sounds like Steam took one look at your downloaded mods and went "time to re-download everything". As someone who had Steam do that three times throughout the game's lifetime so far, it started hurting inside when it happened twice after my modholicsm really kicked in.
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