League of Legends S6: Time + Money - Items = Game!

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kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

FAQ for the first post:

Q. How do I be better at the game
A. YouTube lolsoc

Q. What's that rengar video
A.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yOGDFOeuVlM

# ¿ Jan 30, 2016 05:55

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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 00:14

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

Harry Potter on Ice posted:

I like fizz, do you like fizz? How do you play and have fun and sometimes win with fizz?

Farm safe until level three, try to freeze it in front of tower. If not then last hit under tower. DO NOT PUSH.

Level three is when you can trade with wq - auto - E. However this costs a shitload of mana. Don't go oom.

Vs melee: start dring, level wqe, trade whenever favorable

Vs ranged: start corrupting, level ewq, avoid trading, wait for a gank

Kill them at level six. Hit fish via r-flash, or if you don't need the q damage, q to minion + r

Roam whenever you can push the wave to their tower after 6

# ¿ Jan 31, 2016 04:01

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

Mikujin posted:

This just in: don't build Runic Echoes on Udyr it's dumb and bad.

Instead, be good and have two Udyr pages (yes that's right) so you can decide which build path to take.

Tiger Udyr (Warrior Enchant)
+ Incredibly strong dueling potential all levels
+ High physical damage is front-loaded into an AA buff which can be applied in any stance (as long as the Tiger Attack buff is still up)
+ Can tag enemies with Tiger Attack to apply damage and back off
- First clear is slightly slower than Phoenix Udyr (by ~8 seconds)
- Pure physical damage dealer, which isn't always good in the League of Attack Damage meta

Phoenix Udyr (Devourer Enchant)
+ Very strong clear speed that only gets even faster (Pro Tip: Phoenix Udyr can do Small Camp-Buff Camp-Small Camp-Buff Camp by the time most junglers go Small Buff Small)
+ Mixed damage (favors magic), which is favored in the meta
+ Strong wave-clear and high-sustained damage make him a strong split-pusher
- Dueling potential is typically lower than Tiger, and typically more situational (ie. who you are dueling)
- Damage output is tied to multiple auto attacks, making Phoenix Udyr more susceptible to strong kite comps

The ~SUPER SECRET TECH~ for Udyr is 10% CDR from runes (blues and one quint). Why? Because you want to hit 40% ASAP to maximize stance up-times. Additionally, the early impact of 10% CDR (and 20% with blue) it's extremely noticeable: you can use just one stance button to clear camps without dropping your passive (this makes clears safe and easy and less reliant on Turtle Stance for sustain).

12/0/18 are the masteries you probably want to run if you plan on ganking early and/or countering (which you want to do, you are Udyr), although 0/12/18 is also fine.

Max Bear Stance second. That's right, second. Turtle Stance is your Trap Stance early. One point is fine for early clears and/or aggressive Dragon/Baron (or baby Baron), but beyond that it's not worth the whopping 40 shield value and 2% life steal per rank. Bear on the other hand gives 5% move speed and .25s buff duration per rank which is what makes you crazy fast (25% and + 1.25s duration over 5 levels).

The new jungle items gives you nothing you want but movespeed, but just by leveling your poo poo properly you get the crazy movespeed anyways AND you can even have good stats on your jungle item!

The solution to this is to get better at knowing when to farm and when to gank (it's really easy), and aggressively pursue objectives like Rift Herald (comically easy) and Dragon for your free 5 stacks, rather than build a gimmick.

I'd like to play a build of Udyr that never leaves my own jungle, never goes to a lane other than to take CS, and spams chat about how bad my team is. What murder weapon do you suggest?

# ¿ Feb 1, 2016 09:46

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

don't die 13 times

# ¿ Feb 1, 2016 12:55

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

Why not Ghostblade? The active even gives him more AD

# ¿ Feb 2, 2016 02:12

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

Back in plat for this season and my division name is the loving best

TWITCH'S ALCHEMISTS :c00l:

# ¿ Feb 2, 2016 11:35

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

Kashuno posted:

I dunno what the proper way to handle it is. Losing AD to exhaust seems real bad, but not losing anything besides move speed seems real good.

Exhaust already reduces damage dealt

# ¿ Feb 2, 2016 22:24

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

If your wards aren't helping your silver team, place better wards

# ¿ Feb 2, 2016 23:02

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

The best I've found are at skillcapped but that costs money

# ¿ Feb 3, 2016 01:40

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

Stefan Prodan posted:

I had skillcapped for awhile and found most of them to be really low level and take forever to explain really basic poo poo with maybe one or two useful nuggets, but maybe I will check it out again for a month

I don't mind dropping a little bit of money

They've started updating their guides into new versions and the new ones are good. I know they have ones in the new style for: riven, Vayne, fizz, Diana, lux

But the disadvantage is that they seem to expect you to watch videos for only one champ so a lot of the content on, say, warding will be duplicated for fizz and diana

# ¿ Feb 3, 2016 02:13

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

Caitlyn ult owns actually because you get amazing videos of people blocking/not blocking it

# ¿ Feb 4, 2016 01:44

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

K8.0 posted:

Too bad there's no way for a company hauling in 1.6 billion dollars annually to fix the client.

The size of a company makes it more difficult to accomplish large projects, not less.

# ¿ Feb 6, 2016 00:43

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

The best part of this season are the Reddit babies mad because they get support more often than they want when they go support secondary

# ¿ Feb 8, 2016 20:36

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

Methanar posted:

Jhins weird. Critting baron for 3k on the fourth hit is pretty funny though.

Regular hits critting champions for 1500 is pretty dumb though.

nice yellow trinket

# ¿ Feb 9, 2016 09:03

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

Had a game as Janna where both I and the opposing support built FQC-zzrot-Banner.

Both of us ended the game 3rd on our team in gold.

Zzrot is the best support gold income item.

# ¿ Feb 10, 2016 01:20

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

Libertine posted:

Boots costing more gold is a cross the board support nerf. The tyranny Also will really hurt people who rush boots 2 over combat stats and cause them to lose faster.

Rushing boots 2 owns because dead opponents in other lanes are a combat stat

# ¿ Feb 10, 2016 02:58

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

Clarification: boots 2 rush is good *for roaming supports*

# ¿ Feb 10, 2016 03:17

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

Firebert posted:

I'm not sure if the Alistar change is good or bad. For balancing's sake it's good that the combo is more or less guaranteed across all elo/latencies. It's kinda bad though because making it work consistently removes pretty much the only mechanically interesting aspect of the champion.

It wasn't "mechanically interesting," it was completely random. You could do it the same way but 10% of the time it just didn't work.

# ¿ Feb 10, 2016 08:09

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

TheIncredulousHulk posted:

Annie

Using spells is cheating

# ¿ Feb 13, 2016 21:47

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

NTT posted:

oh wait methanar were we doing selfies??

poo poo hold on let me get my camera out

please shave methanar you'll prob be p. cute with a haircut and a shave

You look like you're auditioning for Tom Hanks's role in a softcore porn version of saving private ryan

# ¿ Feb 14, 2016 02:17

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

Big haircut talk from the dude with the Star Wars Rebel insignia on his scalp

# ¿ Feb 14, 2016 03:21

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

Luna Was Here posted:

to the kanye haters from last page: you can hate on kanye as a person all you want but calling his music bad because its not a 90's rapper or 60's rock or w/e is just lol

He's undoubtedly the most important mainstream musician working right now. It always makes me lol when people are like "I HATE that guy" and they don't even try listening to his extremely good music

The man incorporated Suicide into top40 rap, no one else can do that

# ¿ Feb 14, 2016 23:10

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

Just listened to TLOP and it sounds pretty minor, like a compilation of leftover tracks

edit: it just doesn't move forward in any way from current music, like 808s and MBDTF and Yeezus were so shockingly different from other stuff coming out at that time, and this record just... isn't. It could have come out in 2009

# ¿ Feb 15, 2016 01:11

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

*starts building into zzrot as always*

DISABLED?!

booooooo, stupid bugs

# ¿ Feb 16, 2016 23:02

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

It's caught on, like a hometown indie band that gets discovered :3:

# ¿ Feb 17, 2016 11:17

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

Yeah they changed its status of minion/structure (I forget which direction) or something and now if you're a support, good loving luck ever killing a zzrot.

# ¿ Feb 17, 2016 11:22

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

SaberToothedPie posted:

i played yi and did poorly today.

Good, you got what you deserved.

# ¿ Feb 17, 2016 23:08

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

Darth Windu posted:

Fat Karma is cool but I probably shouldnt play her tired

What runes do you use keeby? That guy has a full armor/mr/CDR page and that seems excessive

I can't imagine not using Mpen reds as Karma. Regardless of how one builds her, she's still Early Game Bullying: The Champion, and Mpen reds are just the most efficient way to use that slot..

# ¿ Feb 17, 2016 23:56

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

My most recent game had our Fiora vs Shen, and it turns out that Shen has this thing called an "Ultimate Ability," so as the jungler,

# ¿ Feb 18, 2016 01:18

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

exethan posted:

I don't get it

*fiora thoughts* I am ahead in CS, I am winning this lane

*shen thoughts* I press R and my team gets four kills, a tower, and a dragon

*fiora thoughts* I am alone in this lane, dunno why my team keeps feeding

# ¿ Feb 18, 2016 02:12

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

pkollar posted:

I was made to understand that this is a good thread to discuss an important subject: why Galio is the loving raddest League of Legends champ.

I'll begin the discussion.

He is a gargoyle.

I like the part where he, uh *frantically looks him up on league wiki* his ult is a channeled... taunt?

# ¿ Feb 18, 2016 03:40

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

ONe time I had a Galio on my team whose username was Galio-based. He was really good at Galio and we won easily

# ¿ Feb 18, 2016 03:44

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

Mottie posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6sjZMaCA_w
Kog'maw is pretty good when you don't explode, go figure. He gave me my first pentakill.

Also he can instantly charge up zeke's herald, I don't really think he benefits from it much, though, so I told the Leona to tag Lux with it, but it worked out regardless I guess.

In other news, is QSS/Merc Scim the best item in the game right now, or is it just me? It feels like I build it every game now.

Zeke's benefits Kog an absurd amount, wtf

# ¿ Feb 18, 2016 08:24

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

Mottie posted:

Maybe you can explain it to me then?
I'm bad but it feels like getting an extra 20-30 AP plus extra crit with a large malus to your critical hit damage doesn't feel super powerful, but it does have basically an 100% uptime when you're fighting with it.

Kog is one of the few ADCs that not just benefits from having AP, but actually has some in his build due to Rageblade. This means that Zeke's on him uses both halves of it, rather than just the crit like most ADCs. Also the 100% uptime as you noted

# ¿ Feb 18, 2016 09:57

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

Long-term question for y'all

I post a lot in this thread about support, because I've realized I'm a pretty good support player! Yesterday I was plat 3 before I was so unjustly demoted like 5 games after ranking up to that (something about "losing"). I basically only play Janna: http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=KillGoldfish

I wanna hit diamond this season. Should I put effort into learning other champs? I've played hundreds of Leona games, picked up Alistar over the last 6 months, but no matter what I also go around 50% on non-Janna champs and 60% as Janna.

Do I just continue to play nothing but Janna until I die of boredom? If I actually want to be A Good High-Elo Support, when should I try to learn other stuff?

Wish I had the $ for coaching

# ¿ Feb 20, 2016 03:00

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

Methanar posted:

Ok I have a weird problem and it doesn't make any sense. There's about a 1/4 chance that starting a game of league will completely kill my internet connection for exactly 10 minutes. No internet access whatsoever. It's pretty reproducible.

Aren't you in IT? Turn it off and back on again or something

# ¿ Feb 21, 2016 05:36

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

If he linked it in chat the number of viewers was probably 0-3

# ¿ Feb 22, 2016 21:26

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

THE FEEDIN FINNISH

# ¿ Feb 22, 2016 22:19

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

This incarnation of Kog is the dumbest thing to come to bot lane since Morde (though Graves pre-nerf was close)

Don't have to win lane, just let the 0/3 adc easily duel anyone on the opposing team to catch up

# ¿ Feb 22, 2016 22:48

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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 00:14

kingcobweb: Apr 16, 2005

I definitely do not enjoy the design of Stand Still and Auto Everyone At Once Kog

# ¿ Feb 22, 2016 23:47

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