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Welcome to the neverending Something Awful Everest thread! Everest is the highest mountain on Earth. 8848 metres of rock. It was first knowingly ascended by Tenzing Norgay and Edmund Hilary in 1953. Since then more than 4000 people have summitted, and around 250 have died trying. A lot of those people are still up there, and have become landmarks for other hopeful climbers. The most notable one is known affectionately as 'Green boots', and resides in a cave close to the summit. Dorje Morup aka Green Boots There is a lot of controversy about the bodies on Everest, and every year people ask why they can't get the bodies down. For a start, even though climbing Everest is much 'easier' these days thanks to modern technology, you are still battling conditions at an altitude of cruising jets, with 30% of the oxygen you are used to. Your body is actively eating itself and you have to climb A fixed line that is also being used by loads of other climbers of varying skills, under an incredibly strict time window. It is not a place where rescues happen easily, let alone chipping decades old bodies from a rock face. The air is too thin for helicopters - the highest ever rescue took place in 2013 and that was a struggle at 7000 metres. Everest has been a source of fascination for me since the first thread I read on SA back in 2011, and I have read and digested more than I care to remember. A good place to start is to read 'Into thin air' by Jon Krakauer which is about one of the most famous years on Everest. 1996 was the year that 15 people died, 8 in one night when they were caught in a terrible storm. It was made into a tv movie and was made into a movie which wasn't quite as good as it could/would/should have been, but did have some Barely Noticeable shots. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZQVpPiOji0 2006 was another bad year, with another large death toll, including one David Sharp who was stranded next to Green Boots and left to die while people passed him by to get to the summit. The 2006 year has a lot of footage available for us to watch, as there were at least 2 tv crews up there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZLCIpovtkU This is a good tv show but you will hear a LOT about Tim Medvitz's injuries. Also 'Ever-ever-ever-ever-rest rest rest' There are 3 seasons of this, the first two are definitely the Most Unexceptional. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_CMD4R0ufk This series follows some guys from the British army attempting to try to climb the quite frankly MODERATELY UNCOMFORTABLE West Face, which has only been successfully climbed by 19 people, and it has killed 21 people. 2014 was hotly anticipated by goons after some notable failures in previous years, including this unfortunate Canadian Lady in 2012 who photoshopped herself into some mountain scenes as part of her climbing preparation. It didn't end well. Unfortunately for everyone the 2014 season was abruptly cut short when an avalanche killed 16 sherpas, making it the deadliest year in Everest's history. The remaining Sherpas refused to work out of respect for their colleagues, and probably knowing it was next to impossible to do without them, all expeditions were cancelled. This included a crazy bastard who wanted to Base Jump from the summit. 2015....well, terrible for everyone. There was a massive earthquake which devasted Nepal, and also set off an avalanche which swept through base camp killing 18 people, and taking out 21 in total. This effectively closed the mountain for the season, and fairly as the sherpas needed to get back to their family and look after their own. There is a lot of MODERATELY UNCOMFORTABLE footage of the avalanche on YouTube to peruse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JC_wIWUC2U So, bring on the climbers!! The avalanches!! The endless arguments about why they can't 'put a slide at the summit'!! Also feel free to talk about other mountains, such as Everest's slightly smaller but much angrier cousin, K2, known affectionately as 'The Killer Summit' - it will eat you and Figuratively chew you up, depositing your remains at its feet. Also caving, diving and any other sort of extreme sport which we can get freaked out by. I have a youtube playlist with some more mountain documentaries on here- http://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...BnY01-OKSEuG1eT Previous Threads- 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 I can't wait. Oh, and mountain pug! An Barely Noticeable computer game! Xibanya posted:Time for the full pitch DOWNLOAD IT HERE ======================= THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT THIS THREAD We are morbid fuckers and there will be tasteless jokes, , pictures of dead bodies and general disrespect for the dead. Climbing this mountain is something that really ceased to be necessary after Norgay and Hilary summitted to anyone other than scientists, doctors and researchers who can test effects of high-altitude and the like. It is dangerous, unpredictable (as the last few years in particular have shown) and there isn't really much honour in getting local people to do all the heavy lifting for you for an embarrassingly small amount of money. Remember this, and if you find it offensive, well. You're in the wrong forum really. Rondette fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Apr 12, 2018 |
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2024 19:16 |
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Ahh bugger, I forgot about the icon. Any way that can be changed?
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2016 13:12 |
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elwood posted:As posted in the last thread: Yeah I'm genuinely excited to have a Goon go up there! Be sure to take lots of piccos pls.
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2016 13:16 |
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Xibanya posted:Time for the full pitch Added to the OP
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2016 19:14 |
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Xibanya posted:By the way I'm gonna put my money on 15 dead this year. A little more modest than previous years; my thought is that Everest will use this year to get everyone's guard down so that next year it can consume even more hapless climbers than before. I'm going for 6. Same prize from me as last year, I'll draw you atop the mountain! I'm eagerly awaiting BaronVonVaderham's photo to do his!
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2016 21:23 |
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LivesInGrey posted:The playlist link in the OP isn't working Hrm, looks like a lot of the links have been deleted since I made it. Grr. I've taken the deleted ones off now, try it again. If anyone has recommendations to put in it I will. drat. How do you make videos urls not automatically turn into PLAYLIST
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2016 22:55 |
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Alan Smithee posted:In the interest of success stories can OP have a picture of the Frenchman who flew his chopper to the top because gently caress ALL BITCHES haha, I forgot about that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3Bx7NyUdRM
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2016 11:43 |
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Cojawfee posted:Then the Sherpas took her corpse picture with her own camera. So her family could go through the slideshow. Here she is at the top. Here she is at the top again. And again. Yet another one at the summit. And here she is dead. And here they put the Canadian flag on her. Masters of the mountain, and the Troll.
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2016 15:53 |
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bradzilla posted:In for 6 dead along with all the schadenfreude money can buy. I picked 6 but seeing as I'm one of the prize-givers you can have it as an entry too! I'll have to tabulate these at some point I guess.
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2016 21:01 |
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Nether Postlude posted:I'm picking 23 for the Death Count because it hasn't been taken yet. And it's one of those numbers you never suspect until it hits ya. Like an avalanche down the Lhotse Face! Ahh, thanks for saving me a job! I'll add this to the OP.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2016 12:42 |
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Platystemon posted:I think that climbing 8000‐m peaks without supplemental oxygen is dumb. Also, it's a complete crap-shoot as to whether you are able to handle high-altitudes. You can be the fittest Ussain Bolt athlete out there but your body just might not be able to handle high altitudes. It's totally arbitrary. Interestingly, women tend to do better at high altitudes. http://www.bodyresults.com/e2r_fuelusage.asp
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2016 14:13 |
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Faux-rear end Nonsense posted:how did you people become like this? 6 years of Everest threads man.
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2016 17:52 |
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haha yeah maybe that should just be the OP now.
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2016 21:22 |
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Why cookie Rocket posted:It's very weird to find this thread for the first time and 10% of posts are about how great it is every year and how they learned so much, and 90% are just lame death pool predictions. Does it kick into gear during climbing season or something? This is a yearly event now, a lot of us have been following it for years...the deathpool and joke posts will die off soon (like a Canadian lady) and we'll start posting SERIOUS stuff. At some point I will take photos of the rather large collection of Mountain books I have accumulated and do review type thingies. If you want to get started, Into thin Air is the best book to set off with, it is a first-hand account of the 1996 disaster which signaled the start of the crazy ego driven and summit-chasing maniacs dying on a yearly basis. If you want to watch something, Ever(ever-ever-)est-Beyond the Limit is a good start. Get used to hearing about Tim Medvitz's injuries though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZLCIpovtkU
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2016 22:09 |
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Deadly Mongoose posted:I'll take straight 50 on the death count. oh god, are we gonna have to start doing boundary maps?! Base Camp counts as far as I am concerned.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2016 10:33 |
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SHISHKABOB posted:Sherpas are the real heroes of this mountain climbing stuff. None of these mountain climbers would have even had a chance if they didn't have all these people helping them. Like not even the dumb rich people, everyone who goes there has to rely on the Sherpas. If Everest had a government I would vote for the Sherpa party. I watched the Everest film recently (and actually FELL ASLEEP during the storm part) and I thought the real 'heroes' were the pilots who managed to fly a helicopter to an as unyet attempted height, at great risk to their own safety, to rescue an American guy who wanted something to tick off his bucket list. IDK why mountaineering films rarely work- I suppose the main problem is that none of the people doing it (In the Everest film anyway) are doing it for any cause other than Ego. It's kinda hard to empathise and root for people in that situation. It's a shame it was such a disappointing film, I was really looking forward to it. Rondette fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Feb 7, 2016 |
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Gringo Heisenberg posted:The best mountaineering documentary. The re-creation climbing bits are really good too. Yeah it's the only cinema-released film that I would say is a good Mountaineering film - and it's more documentary than film.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2016 22:58 |
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Nether Postlude posted:UPDATED DEATH COUNT PICKS FOR THE 2016 EVEREST CLIMBING SEASON Thanks! Will update OP
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2016 17:16 |
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Tou get a drawing by me!! Btw guy who 'won' last fear, still waiting for your pic....
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# ¿ Feb 18, 2016 01:01 |
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:Why was my prediction not added to the OP because I'm lazy. Hold up I'll do it now. edit is it this one- EXTREME INSERTION posted:I would like to place a unique bet: that there is going to be another physical fight on the mountain this year. Someone is going to have their rear end(es) kicked on Mt. Everest. Bonus points if it's a tourist vs Sherpa throw down like the one that happened a few years back Double edit- TIM MEDVITZ IS GOING UP AGAIN http://theheroesproject.org/the-founder/ quote:Tim Wayne Medvetz has always sought adventure, born and raised in the Great State of New Jersey, Tim realized early on in life that he wanted to see the world {and see the world he did} a lifelong wanderer and nomad, a natural extreme athlete, Tim has traveled all over the world. He rode his chopper across the country to Los Angeles in 1998 where he parlayed his love of bikes and the open road into a successful career selling and building custom motorcycles for Hollywood’s elite at the world renowned Bartel’s Harley Davidson. Rondette fucked around with this message at 14:47 on Mar 18, 2016 |
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I'm a little embarrassed to have only just found out about this film. http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/mar/30/sherpa-norbu-tenzing-on-the-everest-circus-and-the-inevitability-of-another-disaster quote:It was a little before 7am on 18 April 2014 when Jennifer Peedom was woken up by the sounds of an avalanche. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn2vfS6bbK0 quote:In the 1950s, Tenzing Norgay, who along with New Zealand mountaineer Edmund Hillary became the first person known to have reached the summit of Mount Everest, popularised the stereotypical image of Sherpa people as smiling, tranquil, can-do workers happy to escort foreigners across precipitous native land. Here's a picture of Hillary and Tenzing Norgay. I just like it. ETA- Here is a longish interview with the director https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIIey35rhEY Rondette fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Mar 30, 2016 |
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a trolley posted:Just wanted to say I saw this movie last year at a film festival and it's fantastic. All of you who are interested in the insanity of the climbing industry should absolutely go see it. I think its general release date was March 31, but that might be just in Australia. I hope it'll get a Netflix release or something but if you can see it in a cinema it's totally worth it, the cinematography is mind-blowing. I would if I could, looks like the UK cinema release date was back in December, and I can't find any sort of DVD release date. I would pay to watch this film.
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2016 15:32 |
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Yeah I get the impression a lot of your time on the mountain is spent melting snow to make tea.
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2016 03:54 |
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Updated the DeathPool in the OP. Tim Medvitz as a guide just makes me
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2016 12:58 |
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Alan Smithee posted:Mansplain plz I can Ladysplain. The long story is contained within the Discovery show 'Everest:Beyond the Limit' in which walking 'RUFTY TUFTY USA BIKER' stereotype Tim Medvitz attempts to scale Everest. He was in an accident (which iirc was on Sept 11 2001) which the show tells you about at least 3 times a show, and is packed full of metal pins, staples and other stuff, so that makes him SPESHUL. He is climbing with Russell Brice's Himex outfit, regarded as the best on the Mountain. However being an American Stereotype he thinks he knows better than the leader and veteran Brice and frequently ignores his demands to come back and generally pises Brice off with his 'If you can dream it you can do it' attitude which people like Brice are not fans of, especially if it leads to a fatality on the mountain and a spot on Brice's (so-far) spotless 0 Fatalities rate. Here is a video with his INJURIES montage included which you will see a lot if you watch the show (which is, having said that, is a Good Show) http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/everest/videos/everest-beyond-the-limit-tim-medvetz/ He's not a BAD GUY, he treats the Sherpas with respect and knows a bit of Nepalese, but, he's the antithesis of everything that Brice is. (edit-oh yeah he got to the top of Everest the next year, breaking his hand in the process and neglecting to tell base camp who surely would have told him to return immediately) You could also watch this video- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikOpVGeGKFs VVV Ha ha yeah drat I had forgotten that VVV Rondette fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Apr 18, 2016 |
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Outrail posted:Can we crowdfund a 'behind the scenes' documentary of Everest from the underpaid but highly experienced sherpa's point of view? Constant face palms and eye rolling as these stupid rich fuckwits do everything in their power to commit expensive unwitting suicide on their holy ground. There was a film made last year called 'Sherpa' which was filmed in 2014, the year of that avalanche. From what I have read it is basically what you have described. It only had a limited release but might crop up on Discovery soon. I hope so coz I want to watch it.
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2016 05:23 |
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twit666 posted:"Is there no way to talk to their owners?" Just finished watching Sherpa (beautifully filmed and extremely moving, with BONUS appearance from thread favourite Tim Medvitz) and our jaws dropped when that douchey climber said that. I mean, holy poo poo dude. None of the Westerners came out too well in that film. Edit: ahah Jeff Brown is that guy. His website is a wall of shite that I could barely be arsed to skim through, it's like the most obnoxious round robin ever. He also compared the Sherpa's walkout to terrorism. I hope Everest eats him this year. Even if he is not climbing. I hope Everest come to his door and eats him. http://www.brownanddoherty.com/jeff-browns-adventure-bio.php Rondette fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Apr 25, 2016 |
# ¿ Apr 25, 2016 22:09 |
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Feel like I should put him in the OP as an example as to why this thread is the way it is.
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2016 08:23 |
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To be fair until a few years ago when I got into the annual Everest Death-watch I couldn't have pointed it out on a map.
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2016 18:51 |
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Is she the one that put her crampons on backwards?
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2016 06:41 |
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~Coxy posted:He meant the climbers. It could be an unfortunate translation issue. Or they could be native english speakers and just rude as gently caress. Definitely the latter. Jeff Brown is that self important attorny we were all laughing at on the previous page. The one who needs a visit from an angry Everest.
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2016 05:09 |
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The film was only put on limited release December last year wasn't it? Watching it I knew it was coming but it was still shocking because of the casual way he said it and his utter lack of regard for the fact that 18 of the Sherpa's colleagues had died and he was annoyed that they didn't want to climb and help him out.
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2016 07:16 |
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I agree about Brice, although I do not envy him having to become the defacto 'leader' of that mess. How do you even begin to marshal that sort of scenario? Having to juggle the needs of your extremely entitled rich-gently caress clients, and the dudes that basically do literally ALL of the heavy lifting and background work. I don't know how much money he takes home each year but I hope it is worth it. Tim Medvitz comes out of one of the more decent people from the Westerner's 'side' which tells you all you need to know really. I love this quote from Jeff Brown's TERRORIST blog entry which sums up his attitude- quote:First Tibet was taken over and now so is Nepal. A Sherpa way of life is ending. And for some reason I am in the epicenter of it. ALL ABOUT HIM, AGAIN. Edit- here are more Mountain songs, this one actually about Everest but not about the death and douchebags. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhgfzEm3CWU and one about Kilimanjaro, a South African mountain. With the video filmed in South America. But it's a fuckin wicked tune and the video is pure Bollywood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35Q8InfNpMo Rondette fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Apr 30, 2016 |
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Switzerland posted:Woah, now! lol. This song is from the film 'Endhiran' which also contains this action scene that was doing the rounds on the internet a while ago. It's such a random weird film. I love it. I wish Western films would break into non-sequiter 5 minute long song and dance scenes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yysbbPStfWw
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2016 18:33 |
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Sanctum posted:
Bahaha, I'd forgotten about that. Nothing like a stomachful of carby, doughy, cheesy junk to get you up a mountain. Jesus gently caress.
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2016 19:08 |
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redreader posted:I love how nobody in this thread noticed that Kilamanjaro is not in South Africa, at all, in any way. Derp. Ok yeah my bad. Tanzania.
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# ¿ May 1, 2016 02:12 |
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Behold, the lav! They're gonna carry all the poo poo back from base camp, on a Yak. So...that's nice, I guess!
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# ¿ May 1, 2016 11:55 |
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He's part of Tim Medvitz's expedition which I think are all combat veterans who have lost body parts in action, so I'll bet it's a prosthetic. Can't help feeling they'll be losing more under Tim's 'care' too. Edit vvvv I thought that too. Maybe it starts next year..vvvv Rondette fucked around with this message at 17:26 on May 1, 2016 |
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Cojawfee posted:I thought Nepal wasn't letting disabled people climb the mountain? The only articles I can find after a cursory search (now I'm not phone posting) say that they were 'considering it' in September last year, but I can't find anything after that. Given the pathetic way they appeared to handle the Sherpa situation in that film, it doesn't surprise me that nothing further was done. http://www.outsideonline.com/2020966/what-everest-climbing-restrictions-mean quote:On Monday, the Nepali government announced a major step in keeping Everest safer: it will consider placing restrictions on age, experience, and ability on those who can climb the world’s highest peak. “We want to make the mountains safer for everyone, so we have to insist on some rules,” tourism department chief Govinda Karki told the AFP.
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# ¿ May 1, 2016 17:37 |
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2024 19:16 |
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redreader posted:No Hey man I admitted my error, I think writing South America threw me off a bit in my haste to share that absurd video. Kilamanjaro is in Tanzania. A country on the continent of Africa.
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# ¿ May 2, 2016 06:56 |