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TheLovablePlutonis posted:What party is going to kick the loyalists out of Ulster and reunite the island? At this stage a better outcome for all concerned would be to kick out the Republicans and reunite the United Kingdom of Great Britain & Ireland  Think of all the hundreds of billions of debt that could be forgotten about. And the 8th amendment would no longer be an issue. And no more Michael Healy Rae in a position of power. It's win-win-win, really.@kustomkarkommando I think the main problem the SocDems faced when getting candidates of sufficient quality/stature was their formation relatively close to the end of the Dail term. If they'd been in existence for 3/4 years, and had had some success running candidates for county council, I think they'd be in a far stronger position. If the above discussed election outcome comes to pass however (another election in 18/24 months) it might be ideal for them. They should hopefully be in a stronger position then. Blut fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Feb 4, 2016 |
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I saw some dudes putting up a Noonan poster on a local crossroads, near where I live. It was Sarah Jane Hennelly (SDs), Willie O'Dea (FF) on Top, then I guess Noonan (FG) top of Willie ( I'm sorry). The way they were fiddling with one of the postersI almost thought they were gonna take one of them down. Might see it tomorrow to see if they actually took down another person's poster. Unlikely though (?  ).Has anyone else heard of this "Dublin Allowance" thing for civil servants? Someone mentioned it to me today, but I can't seem to find any mention of it online. Might be BS, or as a result of skyrocketing rent for Guards (entry guards have really poo poo pay), which will be eaten by landlords anyway.
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Blut posted:At this stage a better outcome for all concerned would be to kick out the Republicans and reunite the United Kingdom of Great Britain & Ireland On the other hand, do you really want to be lead by a Prime Minister who quite likely shoved his penis into the mouth of a dead pig?
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kustomkarkommando posted:Only a few hours into the official campaign and we may have already reached peak cringe He didn't take off that loving flat-cap when he was delivering his own father's eulogy.
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School Nickname posted:Has anyone else heard of this "Dublin Allowance" thing for civil servants? Someone mentioned it to me today, but I can't seem to find any mention of it online. Might be BS, or as a result of skyrocketing rent for Guards (entry guards have really poo poo pay), which will be eaten by landlords anyway. Did they actually introduce pay weighting? I know there was talk about it to cover increased living costs for the civil service in Dublin but I think the CPSU opposed it and favour across the board pay rises - though based on the less than pleasant reaction to the coming Luas strikes for pay parity that seems to be a hard enough sell for a lot of people.
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forkboy84 posted:On the other hand, do you really want to be lead by a Prime Minister who quite likely shoved his penis into the mouth of a dead pig? We're not to bothered with what we shove into a pig's mouth over here.
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School Nickname posted:
Do you mean this? Young [public sector] workers seeking a home in our major cities will have 30pc of their rent paid by the State in a scheme aimed at allowing them live close to where they work. - http://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/property-mortgages/city-workers-to-get-30pc-of-their-rent-paid-by-state-34419382.html In other news, Sinn Fein are now apparently the best supported party with under 35s in the state:  If FF/FG/LAB aren't careful they'll drive a whole generation of voters into SF's arms. All the specifically anti-youth austerity measures coming home to roost, I guess.
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That's all predicated on the under 35s voting though, which is probably not going to be as high as everyone thinks.
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Where is there a glossary for the social class part?
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True, but I'd say the 25-34 year old demographic there wouldn't be half as bad at voting as the younger one. It should have a reasonable turnout %. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NRS_social_grade has social grade definitions.
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I wonder how much of a bump SF would pick up in the event of Gerry finally stepping aside and Mary Lou coming in, I know the last time they ran a poll on it she was preffered by over-50s to Gerry for leader
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What does republicanism mean in Ireland?
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Baron Porkface posted:What does republicanism mean in Ireland? Merging Northern Ireland with the RoI to create a 32-county nation. Unionism means keeping NI part of the UK.
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So unionism means not uniting. Makes more sense than the libel law thing.
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Troy Queef posted:Merging Northern Ireland with the RoI to create a 32-county nation. Unionism means keeping NI part of the UK. As a Northerner I get pedantic about this cause of the subtle differences in terms up here, nationalist is used for someone who simply wants a United Ireland while Republicanism is a specific strand of nationalist thought with its own specific ideological contours and history. Mostly cause Northern Republicans largely embraced a rejectionist stance that denied the legitimacy of the free state and refused participation in electoral politics north and south while we've had a separate strand of nationalist politics descended from the parliamentary IPP tradition since partition. This is only really a Northern thing though.
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Baron Porkface posted:So unionism means not uniting. Makes more sense than the libel law thing. I think it translates more to "maintaining the union with the UK".
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Lots of bickering about costings and "fiscal space" the last couple of days coming of the back of FG launching their Long Term Economic Plan. SF getting their licks in on FG accusing them of over-estimating available funds and fudging their numbers, gives them a chance to counter the “fantasy economics" allegations that gets tossed at them. Fitch also announced a credit rating upgrade for Ireland which is rather unusually timed - announcing this just days into election campaigning is pretty dodgy especially considering the government's campaign is founded on "keeping the recovery going". And in case you missed it Labour Deputy Leader Alan "AK47" Kelly lost the head with Chris Donoghue of Newstalk after they aired a one-on-one piece with controversial independent Michael Lowry, running in the same constituency as Kelly, right before Kelly took part in a three person panel discussion. This isn't the first time Kelly has gotten into bother for being a bit of a megalomaniac, a piece following him in the Sindo last week didn't exactly win him many fans and forced Burton to comment. Which of course is a great excuse to post the recently rediscovered Alan Kelly campaign rap from the 2009 Euros https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UhR2TKwwDo kustomkarkommando fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Feb 6, 2016 |
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I'm loving these sick musical campaign ads, please tell me there are more.
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Coohoolin posted:I'm loving these sick musical campaign ads, please tell me there are more. I've only seen two others so, one for Donegal independent Tim Jackson which is a bit slick: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya912HhdCHw And one for another Munster candidate, former FF-councillor turned independent candidate for Limerick County that's more terrifying than anything https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV1lla0301w I know some people are probably mortified I keep posting these but I just cant stop myself
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Please do no judge Irish politics but what independents from the country get up to. ty.
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The Jackson one is pretty loving clever. Please tell me that's O'Donoghue singing himself?
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kustomkarkommando posted:Please do no judge Irish politics but what independents from the country get up to. ty. Singsongs are infinitely better than attack ads across the Atlantic or whatever the heck they do in the UK.
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The whole Alan Kelly saga is hilarious. Talk about delusions of grandeur. The type of person who thinks its ok to say those types of things to journalists is exactly the type that should be kept far away from positions of power.
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Leo went into an interview and was asked about abortion. He then whined and said abortion wasn't "health or politics" http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/election-2016/more-hospital-beds-can-slow-down-staff-claims-minister-leo-varadkar-34430062.html Apologies for Indo link but it is a good read.
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Cabinet posted:Leo went into an interview and was asked about abortion. He then whined and said abortion wasn't "health or politics" "independent posted:And so I ask, as Minister for Health, what he would say to the 12 Irish women who have to travel to the UK every day for an abortion? Jesus. Mary Lou was on Newstalk this morning and things got a bit heated when FG's Brian Hayes kept pressing her to say whether or not she thought Slab Murphy, currently awaiting sentencing for tax evasion, was a "good republican". It all kicks off about 3/4 of the way through and eventually winds up with McDonald calling Hayes a gurrier a couple of times. Murphy's sentencing is this coming friday so expect another round of awkward twisting from the younger SF-heads uncomfortable with having to tow the leadership line on this one.
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Some good news. That wee baby faced fucker from Identity Ireland wound up in hospital after the scuffles at the Pegida Ireland launch thing https://twitter.com/AitheantasEire/status/696016755592978432
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kustomkarkommando posted:Some good news. That wee baby faced fucker from Identity Ireland wound up in hospital after the scuffles at the Pegida Ireland launch thing Not sure what good getting into scraps with Pegida Ireland does for the anti-racist cause. The fact they mention far-left thugs with British accents reinforces the rumours that it was outside instigators looking for the counter-protest to turn violent.
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Marenghi posted:Not sure what good getting into scraps with Pegida Ireland does for the anti-racist cause. I have little sympathy for a man who literally used the word "rapefugee" getting punched in the face
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Marenghi posted:Not sure what good getting into scraps with Pegida Ireland does for the anti-racist cause. It put a racist piece of poo poo in the hospital, that's a plus.
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Marenghi posted:Not sure what good getting into scraps with Pegida Ireland does for the anti-racist cause. As has been discussed in UKMT recently, standing up to fascists & refusing to be cowed is the best tactic to turn them from a big scary to a bunch of pathetic clowns. Bullies don't like it when you stand up to them, it makes them look as tragic as they are.
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Don't listen to forkboy, his "funded by UK government" av clearly indicates a foreign agent intending to cause disruption.
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Bryter posted:It put a racist piece of poo poo in the hospital, that's a plus. He's a poo poo-stain and it couldn't have happened to a nicer person. But still most people I've encountered view the event with the racists looking reasonable and the counter-protest looking like violent trouble makers. I wasn't there personally but heard from some that it was a few antifa heads obviously itching for a scrap and the organisers requesting people not to start trouble.
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Rte is lodging a complaint after one of their cameraman got batoned by the guards https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFv6ArDBEBY "Ya loving free state bastard ye" ~ secret British infiltrator Another video with a bit of a timeline: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z68yTJWXm5g
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kustomkarkommando posted:Another video with a bit of a timeline: Oh that is just a delight.
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PEGIDA may be somewhat odious but by escalating things to violence the "anti-fascists" came across much worse there. Physically assaulting a peaceful political gathering just makes the anti-fascists look like fascist thugs, ironically. The near riot/aggressive behaviour towards the Gardai won't be winning them many fans either. A peaceful counter-demonstration would probably have gathered more people than the PEGIDA demonstration, and this would have been reported on in the media. This would have been a far better option in terms of influencing public opinion.
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Counterpoint: they are LITERALLY fascists. If people are actually going to go "oh poor fascists people don't like them  " the issue is with the people who defend the fascists, not with the protestors.There is also the point that if there was not any violence these, again literal, fascists would just be ignored and allow to grow like the cancer they are. The spotlight is on them now and they have to defend themselves now. An argument of "We were just being peaceful" does not hold up to scrutiny. It doesn't matter how peaceful they are because at the end of the day they are loving fascists. Skull Servant fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Feb 7, 2016 |
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kustomkarkommando posted:I wonder how much of a bump SF would pick up in the event of Gerry finally stepping aside and Mary Lou coming in, I know the last time they ran a poll on it she was preffered by over-50s to Gerry for leader Oh god no Mary Lou is awful, I mean Adams may be physical incapable of telling the truth but for some reason he's less irritating that McDonald, the only worse SF politician is Martina Anderson. I think FF aren't corrupt enough anymore its not amusing enough, they need Bertie 'sock in the hotpress' Ahern back. Irish elections own lets hope we get some good mad independents campaigning.
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