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Stexils posted:the guy who wrote hollywood book "save the cat" about The Rules for screenplays only ever made two terrible films, neither of which you've ever heard of: stop! or my mom will shoot, and blank check Read a thing this morning about that whole ecosystem of meta-content-creators: people who aren't actually successful at X but will coach you on how to become great at X. Scriptwriters, entrepreneurs, traders, songwriters ...
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I was just about to come in here to post that Their whole business strategy for going on a decade now is that eventually they won’t need their drivers. So I’m not sure what exactly their plan is now.
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I've never heard of Peloton, but that subscription model is laughable. I understand that no matter what, there will be people buying the latest cyberbike toy with all the bells and whistles for however many thousands of bucks. But paying ~$500 per year to even have access to those bells and whistles is just farcical. If you use it for even half the shelf-life for a 'premium' quality exercise bike, you'll be paying the cost of the bike (already extortionate) twice over on top. Anyone who forks over for that is mind-meltingly stupid.
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My understanding is that the Peloton training is what hooks people. I'm a fan of Desus & Mero and a couple months into quarantine, Desus admitted that he was hooked on his. If only because of the kind of social aspect that exercise benefits from. You get a "personal" experience without necessarily exposing yourself to others, and it's convenient. Definitely not something I'd ever buy, because I'll just ride my actual bike but I understand how people can get into it! Boywhiz88 has a new favorite as of 15:26 on May 6, 2021 |
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May 6, 2021 15:07
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Peloton was the one with the creepy Christmas ad where the husband gifts it to an already waiflike wife and she's like "so great, lost 20 lbs working hard honey  "
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May 6, 2021 15:08
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The Peloton Christmas ad was pretty bad, but the gin ad that followed it was great. The ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijof8uw4OHs The response: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayD-4nMnB44
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I’d never heard of either of those ads but that’s pretty funny lol
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May 6, 2021 22:44
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Peloton is still on the cheap end. I had a buddy recommend me one of these https://expresso.com/ e: But also yeah it's a cult or some poo poo and I'm all in
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May 6, 2021 22:56
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American attitude towards alcohol is so hosed up. Lol she's chugging gin 
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May 7, 2021 00:09
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america: widely known and acknowledged as the only country where people drink heavily
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ReidRansom posted:Peloton is still on the cheap end. I had a buddy recommend me one of these https://expresso.com/ Tell me about this cult, a brief Google didn't get me anything
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May 7, 2021 00:50
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Let me point you to my bikewife Emma Lovewell.
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Alaois posted:america: widely known and acknowledged as the only country where people drink heavily When I think about nationalities chugging gin, America is not the first country that comes to mind.
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Phy posted:in the vein of goods-as-a-service/internet of things tomfuckery, this made it into Cycle Asylum earlier this week: airbag vests have been around for 20 years; this is just bog standard rentier economy of things that already exist for cheaper horseshit
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My friend has a Peloton Bike and he has one of the few cases where it makes sense - he and his wife both use it, and have two kids. So they don't have time to go to the gym; and before they had kids they would go to spin classes and boot camp, and in the area they live in, a gym membership was $60 a person. A peloton bike monthly payment plus subscription is like $130, so it's essentially the same cost for them
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SgtScruffy posted:My friend has a Peloton Bike and he has one of the few cases where it makes sense - he and his wife both use it, and have two kids. So they don't have time to go to the gym; and before they had kids they would go to spin classes and boot camp, and in the area they live in, a gym membership was $60 a person. A peloton bike monthly payment plus subscription is like $130, so it's essentially the same cost for them TBF 4 of the people that I know that have them are in a similar situation. Its easier for them to break away for 30-40 min to get a workout in and be back to parenting vs trying to drive to the gym.
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Phy posted:in the vein of goods-as-a-service/internet of things tomfuckery, this made it into Cycle Asylum earlier this week: It also used a $100 argon refill instead of a generic CO2 cartridge. At least you don't have to ship it back like I think one company requires. MisterOblivious has a new favorite as of 09:18 on May 7, 2021 |
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May 7, 2021 09:13
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MisterOblivious posted:It also used a $100 argon refill instead of a generic CO2 cartridge. At least you don't have to ship it back like I think one company requires. WTF? Argon? They use a loving noble gas? Why? Are they honestly arguing that Argon absorbs impact better?
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A true connaisseur can distinguish the bagfeel of argon, maybe if you cannot tell then you should stick with poor people airbags 
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RagnarokZ posted:WTF? Argon? They use a loving noble gas? Why? Not that it absorbs impact better, but it deploys faster. Argon is stored at far higher pressure than CO2 so it will inflate the airbag faster, and it's and in a smaller container, which I guess is also more useful for a jacket based airbag. It's not a new idea per se. The side airbags in a car often use compressed argon canisters or similar because they are required to inflate much faster than front airbags because getting T-boned requires a much faster deployment than ramming straight into a wall. The front airbags in a car generally don't even use compressed gas at all, but just contain a bunch of chemicals that when activated release a load of gas.
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Argon's a noble gas, but it's like super easy to pull out of normal rear end air via cryogenic distillation.
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wow buddy I didn't know your farts were that esoteric
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:wow buddy I didn't know your farts were that esoteric I think you mean assoteric
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SgtScruffy posted:My friend has a Peloton Bike and he has one of the few cases where it makes sense - he and his wife both use it, and have two kids. So they don't have time to go to the gym; and before they had kids they would go to spin classes and boot camp, and in the area they live in, a gym membership was $60 a person. A peloton bike monthly payment plus subscription is like $130, so it's essentially the same cost for them I mean yeah, but that also just describes the ideal situation for any exercise bike. I think the particular expensiveness of the Peloton is what people object to. We're in a similar situation and we recently got a Schwinn exercise bike for like $650. It doesn't have a built-in screen or other smart features, but my wife still has the Peloton app for about $15 a month. There are a few bonus integrations we miss out on, but they don't seem worth the extra $300 for a more advanced Schwinn, or however much extra the Peloton bike would be.
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Sir Lemming posted:I mean yeah, but that also just describes the ideal situation for any exercise bike. I think the particular expensiveness of the Peloton is what people object to. More like it isn’t worth the extra $300 to own an exercise machine that will randomly eat your child.
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Duckman2008 posted:More like it isn’t worth the extra $300 to own an exercise machine that will randomly eat your child. Depends on the kid I guess.
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RagnarokZ posted:WTF? Argon? They use a loving noble gas? Why? Everyone knows argon is what keeps us safe. GoutPatrol has a new favorite as of 07:29 on May 8, 2021 |
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Not even the expense; it's just the cancerous growth of rent seeking into all areas of life You don't own your house; run out of money and you lose it. You don't own your music, stop paying your subs and you can't listen to it. You don't own your games console but instead rent processing power via their remote server - better keep that money flowing. You do own your exercise bike but who cares, stop paying them and they'll turn off as many features as they can get away with.
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All this Peloton talk is making me remember some weird piece of exercise equipment that used to be advertised in a lot of magazines back in the 90s. I can't remember anything about it except that it had an absolutely ludicrous price of near $7-8k (or was it $ 17k???) and had a claim that the price was worth it because you could get a full workout in like 5 minutes. It was just a plain image on a white background of the machine and then some copy. What the hell am I remembering? Edit: found it!  Look at this poo poo! Eclipse12 has a new favorite as of 11:57 on May 8, 2021 |
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Eclipse12 posted:All this Peloton talk is making me remember some weird piece of exercise equipment that used to be advertised in a lot of magazines back in the 90s. I can't remember anything about it except that it had an absolutely ludicrous price of near $7-8k (or was it $ They have a niche customer base though. 
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Strategic Tea posted:Not even the expense; it's just the cancerous growth of rent seeking into all areas of life I mean, valid point and there def is a limit I do to what I subscribe to , but it does not mean it’s all bad. I pay $15 a month for unlimited music for my wife and I. It’s just way cheaper than buying everything like I used to. And yes, artists get hosed. But the biggest reason they get hosed is the majors banded together like always, bought half of Spotify, And funneled the money to them. I’m not saying streaming would still pay better than traditional albums, but they def rigged it, like the major labels always rig it. For that reason I don’t feel bad subscribing , although for local artists I try to buy their albums or merch directly. For something you use a LOT of, it makes sense. For other stuff, yeah everything having a monthly option pushed is annoying , but there at least still seem to be other options, sometimes you do have to dig though. Example: my calendar app (fantastical) wants me to subscribe for $3 a month. I paid $10 at one point for the app (no regrets there), but like hell am I paying a subscription for a calendar app.
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Duckman2008 posted:I mean, valid point and there def is a limit I do to what I subscribe to , but it does not mean it’s all bad. This comes off as trying to justify your place in the cycle. You could just not repeatedly give Spotify money that enriches and powers them. You could just listen to slightly less music, or spend a little more to have it in perpetuity. But you’re like “well, they were gonna get screwed anyway.” Sure, but now you’re more actively screwing them, and you’re entrenching Spotify’s position. Sorry to pick on you, Duckman. This just hits a nerve for me. Streaming music really rubs me the wrong way, because of the layers involved in denying bands their due along with the efforts that bands put in. To say nothing of how it’s caused people to really devalue music. Im a big fan of Bandcamp.com if only because they seem to be the only platform that hasn’t gotten actively greedy, and has actually taken steps over the last year to empower the artists on their platform. They had numerous days where Bandcamp didn’t take a cut and all money went to the artists. Spotify and Apple Music and YouTube Music never did anything like that to my knowledge. Food for thought!
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Subscriptions are the thing I hate most about the future Subscriptions and fascists
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Boywhiz88 posted:They had numerous days where Bandcamp didn’t take a cut and all money went to the artists. Spotify and Apple Music and YouTube Music never did anything like that to my knowledge. They're sticking with Bandcamp Fridays for now -- bought a couple of albums myself yesterday -- but even without them it's a better deal for the artists. As they just posted: quote:If you’ve started to feel guilty about buying music on any day other than Bandcamp Friday, here’s something to keep in mind: on Bandcamp Fridays, an average of 93% of your money reaches the artist/label (after payment processor fees). When you make a purchase on any other day of the month (as 2.5 million of you have since March, buying an additional $152 million worth of music and merch) an average of 82% reaches the artist/label. Every day is a good day to directly support artists on Bandcamp!
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Has there been any breakdowns comparing artist compensation over a span of time? Like under the old system a band may clear 75 cents on an $15 album sale, but see their royalties drop sharply after that first year, whereas now listeners don’t own the music and keep paying each time they listen to a song. Neither system is fair, but which one is worse? Also, to stay on topic, the easy availability of streaming music somehow hasn’t managed to totally kill Musak (now called Mood Media). The very large retailer I work for pays them to curate just the right combination of inoffensive soft rock to keep shoppers happy and engaged.
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