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Slack3r
Feb 20, 2004

Nothing wrong with this. You can cook steak directly on lump charcoal then wrap in tinfoil for a few minutes. Its AMAZING.

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Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


https://twitter.com/ModernVintageG/status/1156658352874827776

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JUCfX1P1ik

Honestly shocked they've managed to hold on this long.

I worked there through college 10+ years ago and while my store manager was pretty chill (he was in his mid-50s, had been working retail forever and treated the job as a beer money gig. He did not give a fuuuuuck about pre-order/numbers bullshit anymore than he had to and only cared that you showed up and didn't steal) corporate was just god awful and our DM was the smuggest piece of poo poo.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Slack3r posted:

Nothing wrong with this. You can cook steak directly on lump charcoal then wrap in tinfoil for a few minutes. Its AMAZING.
On a scale of 0 to 10 how much cancer does that give you

Garrand
Dec 28, 2012

Rhino, you did this to me!

Vegetable posted:

On a scale of 0 to 10 how much cancer does that give you

3.6

IUG
Jul 14, 2007



Not great, not terrible.

je1 healthcare
Sep 29, 2015

Alhazred posted:

Turns out that catering exclusively to thirsty men who doesn't know how to find online porn isn't the best strategy anymore: https://www.thecut.com/2018/12/2018-victorias-secret-fashion-show-had-lowest-ratings-ever.html

Guys may like underwear models, but Victoria's marketing is directed entirely at women, because that's their customer base. Their upper management and board are also mostly women. They had Justin Beiber host the show a few years ago and it doesn't take a marketing degree to figure out who he's supposed to appeal to

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

je1 healthcare posted:

Guys may like underwear models, but Victoria's marketing is directed entirely at women, because that's their customer base.

AIUI, Victoria’s Secret was founded with a target market of men buying lingerie for women. I wonder when that shifted.

je1 healthcare
Sep 29, 2015

Subjunctive posted:

AIUI, Victoria’s Secret was founded with a target market of men buying lingerie for women. I wonder when that shifted.

That's also true, the company switched ownership and marketing tactics in the 80s and the pivot is the subject of a bunch of marketing/management books. But it's been losing marketshare over the past decade as other lingerie brands have cropped up and VS was no longer the one store to get racy underwear. The fashion show has always been designed appeal to teenage girls, precisely because guys don't watch network television just for the titillation anymore. They don't even send out the catalogues anymore

big dyke energy
Jul 29, 2006

Football? Yaaaay
Victoria's Secret is for teen girls who haven't realized their bras are poo poo, older women who just like the Pink sportswear line, and men who want to buy bras for their girlfriends. I don't know literally anyone else who has ever shopped at VS. Other internet lingerie brands have been absolutely destroying VS, and VS going 'no we don't want any fatties or trans women to wear our stuff' majorly hurt them. Also, gently caress victoria's secret.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
My daughters are on the cutting edge of fashion and they both like Pink by Victoria Secrets, so VS is doing something right.

The main brand is probably not doing so great since their primary consumers over the last 20 years are moving into granny panties.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Krispy Wafer posted:

My daughters are on the cutting edge of fashion and they both like Pink by Victoria Secrets, so VS is doing something right.
PiNK is just branding for cute girls so it maintains popularity that way, from what I remember.

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


Hasnt their CEO also been linked to Epstein?

PERMACAV 50
Jul 24, 2007

because we are cat

Krispy Wafer posted:

My daughters are on the cutting edge of fashion and they both like Pink by Victoria Secrets, so VS is doing something right.

The main brand is probably not doing so great since their primary consumers over the last 20 years are moving into granny panties.

That's the problem. Who the hell wants to buy sexy stuff for the wife at the same store where their 12-year-old daughter buys Pear Glace lipgloss?

The only brand I've heard anyone my age (33) give a gently caress about lately is Fenty.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

Basticle posted:

Hasnt their CEO also been linked to Epstein?

Les Wexner, yeah. He's the only client of Epstein's they have been able to verify, and the two of them have been very close.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/25/business/jeffrey-epstein-wexner-victorias-secret.html

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In May 1997, Alicia Arden, a model in California, was introduced to a man who identified himself as a talent scout for Victoria’s Secret. He invited her to his Santa Monica hotel room to audition for the brand’s catalog. When she arrived, Ms. Arden said, the man grabbed her, tried to undress her and said he wanted to “manhandle” her. Ms. Arden, then 27, fled in tears.

It was the type of crisis that should not have come as a complete surprise to leaders at L Brands, the parent company of Victoria’s Secret.

In the mid-1990s, two senior executives had discovered that the same man, a close adviser to the company’s chief executive, Leslie H. Wexner, was trying to pitch himself as a recruiter for Victoria’s Secret models. Mr. Wexner was alerted, according to the two executives.

It is unclear what if any action Mr. Wexner took in response. But the man — Jeffrey E. Epstein, a New York financier — had developed an unusually strong hold on Mr. Wexner, one of the country’s most influential corporate titans.

Within years of meeting Mr. Epstein, Mr. Wexner handed him sweeping powers over his finances, philanthropy and private life, according to interviews with people who knew the men as well as court documents and financial records.

Mr. Wexner authorized him to borrow money on his behalf, to sign his tax returns, to hire people and to make acquisitions. Over the years, Mr. Epstein obtained a New York mansion, a private plane and a luxury estate in Ohio — today valued at roughly $100 million all together — previously owned by Mr. Wexner or his companies. At the same time, he drove a wedge between Mr. Wexner and longtime associates and friends.

Doggles
Apr 22, 2007

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/08/01/retail-flagship-stores-close-rent-online-shopping-skyrockets/1888004001/

BloodBag
Sep 20, 2008

WITNESS ME!



What's going on with Fry's electronics? Stores nationwide look like they're emptying out of inventory.


https://www.thelayoff.com/t/YbiPZw8

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Shelves look like liquidation is well underway. It's too bad, as others had said, There is no other place to purchase the odd parts you need to repair a PC or other electronics.

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Went to store in San Marcos CA on Sat. Shelves and floor space empty. Asked a guy working there if they are going out and he said "I don't know I just sell computers." Went a cross the street to Best Buy and they said that the LG salesmen told them that they will no longer do business with Fry's as they did not pay their bills.

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Was at the store in Webster, TX. The shelves are half empty and the stock area is completely empty.

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I was at the Tempe, Arizona location two weeks ago and I asked the sales rep in the store if Fry’s was closing down and he said yes. They said current plans are for Fry’s to close after Black Friday. He said Fry’s is in the process of self liquidation, hence the lack of merchandise.

So sad, I really loved Fry’s... I don’t want yo only rely on Amazon for everything...
What do?

BloodBag has a new favorite as of 12:36 on Aug 2, 2019

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS
Yeah, I went there the other day to buy a hard disk and the gigantic store’s like half-empty. Place has been nearly deserted for the last few years when I’ve shopped there, so I’m not surprised they’re closing up shop on a retail level.

Eclipse12
Feb 20, 2008

So apparently, a 50th anniversary Woostock concert was gonna be a thing, but now it ain't gonna be a thing.

SO DEMANDING
Dec 27, 2003


Move to somewhere with a Microcenter :getin:

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

SO DEMANDING posted:

Move to somewhere with a Microcenter :getin:

:yeah: Microcenter is amazing

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

Eclipse12 posted:

So apparently, a 50th anniversary Woostock concert was gonna be a thing, but now it ain't gonna be a thing.

Good riddance to that entire brand.

stevewm
May 10, 2005
The Fry's in Fishers, IN looks like that too. Has for the past year. And it looks worse every time I go in there. Looks like a store going out of business.

normal-ass vampire
Feb 14, 2011
I'm kinda surprised they'd even consider it after the trash fire that was Woodstock '99.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
MicroCenter is the best. I’ve been shopping at ours since like 1993. When it dies I will wear black for a month.

It’s privately held so doesn’t release a whole lot of financials, but it appears to be doing okay. They’re always busy. Fry’s stores were too large in too high rent of areas. MicroCenter’s are big, but not box store big.

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

I heard Fry's owns their properties rather than rents.

Fry's hasn't looked too good the past year. It'll gut me if they go out of business. I must make near weekly visits to the Phoenix store. Where else am I gonna buy electronics and computer components in a place that resembles an Aztec temple?

stevewm
May 10, 2005
Yeah the Microcenter here in Sharonville, OH/Cincinnati is always busy.. often so busy you can't even stop and look at anything because of all the people moving around.

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?

Cradle to the Grape posted:

I'm kinda surprised they'd even consider it after the trash fire that was Woodstock '99.

That's probably why they waited twenty years.

The funniest thing about it is, after Watkins Glen pulled out as the location, they were going to still do it in loving Maryland. Why even bother if it's nowhere near upstate New York?

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

I think the least significant aspect of the original Woodstock was that it was in upstate NY. It could have been teleported to the steppes of Uzbekistan wholesale and had the same legacy, because it didn’t really interact with its surroundings.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

SO DEMANDING posted:

Move to somewhere with a Microcenter :getin:

I've never lived near one. But apparently one is just 33 minutes away



Going there tomorrow

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Cradle to the Grape posted:

I'm kinda surprised they'd even consider it after the trash fire that was Woodstock '99.

I fell down a wikipedia rabbithole one day and apparently they held some kind of Woodstock anniversary concert like every "milestone" year up to '99.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I'm guessing Fry's is probably going the place of most electronics stores where the internet just killed its business model dead, you can get speciality parts without having to rummage through bins and shelves, and off-the-shelf electronics you can also get online and basically anywhere else.

Dick Smith's down under died a similar death, though apparently a massive bungled deal on an overmarketed video game tablet accessory helped it along. JB Hi-Fi seems to be doing okay though. I think it's one niche you can do well with as long as you don't gently caress up because it's high-margin products that people like to get a look at and try before they buy.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

Iron Crowned posted:

I fell down a wikipedia rabbithole one day and apparently they held some kind of Woodstock anniversary concert like every "milestone" year up to '99.

Ahh, Woodstock '99. Where the question 'What could go wrong?' was answered with 'Yes.'

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

BigDave posted:

Ahh, Woodstock '99. Where the question 'What could go wrong?' was answered with 'Yes.'

I don't know much of the story besides tidbits, I know there was gang rape and $20 bottles of water.

This generation only had Fyre Festival.

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?

Subjunctive posted:

I think the least significant aspect of the original Woodstock was that it was in upstate NY. It could have been teleported to the steppes of Uzbekistan wholesale and had the same legacy, because it didn’t really interact with its surroundings.

Every single Woodstock event since the first one has been held within a 50 mile radius in upstate New York. It's also loving weird to advertise a show for the same area for a year and then a month out go "Oops, it's three states away now!"

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

BigDave posted:

Ahh, Woodstock '99. Where the question 'What could go wrong?' was answered with 'Yes.'

Most of the previous anniversary editions of Woodstock were just small one day concerts with a couple of bands. Then Woodstock '94 decided it wanted to be Lollapalooza and it turned out alright, so logically Woodstock '99 would be great, right guys?

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
Everyone involved with running Woodstock '99 were pissed they didn't charge enough money at Woodstock '94 and it showed. They also hired a bunch of off-duty New York State policemen as security, to show you how much of a poo poo cops give about rape.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!
And then of course when it all went to hell, they blamed the kids and their rock music. Cool music festival guys

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




BigDave posted:

Ahh, Woodstock '99. Where the question 'What could go wrong?' was answered with 'Yes.'

Seems on brand considering that the original Woodstock festival was also a huge clusterfuck where everything went wrong.

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?

Sir Lemming posted:

And then of course when it all went to hell, they blamed the kids and their rock music. Cool music festival guys

Yeah, there were a lot of articles about "How did America's children get so angry? How did this happen?" after the event, and the fact that they didn't even provide water without charging you seven bucks was in the last loving paragraph.

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Black August
Sep 28, 2003

gently caress Woodstock and its trashy legacy

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