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ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

bongwizzard posted:

What on earth would be the incentive to maintain expensive an machine then? Three or four bucks to get cash wherever and whenever I want to seems like a pretty reasonable fee to pay.

There's this crazy idea that maybe not everything has to be a for-profit entity, like having a benefit that is maintained at cost through other sources is a more effihahahahaha nah gently caress everybody else the CEO needs a fifth yacht.

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ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

But if you hate banks you are a commie who doesn't understand how the world works whelp time to go pay someone to throw my money into a figurative mattress at a bank that literally fucks me up the rear end daily because I literally cannot conceive of any other system. After all, if a system cannot extract wealth from a majority of its participants for literally no reason other than profit for a select minority it can't possibly be efficient.

Hint: non-profit =/= unable to cover expenses

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ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013
Christ how could you even get any money out of selling Yahoo email accounts? That's the hacker version of a dude trying to sell clothing he steals out of the Salvation army dumpster.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

get that OUT of my face posted:

If Facebook imported their bullshit "real name" policy to Twitter, then it's better off dying. Honestly, I think that's the best answer for it right now. The only good reason why Twitter doesn't have a staff of moderators to go through complaints is because they're constantly hemorrhaging money.

"We can't do anything about the horde of racists that makes us look unappealing to investors because that would cost us money that we can't get from investors because we don't want to do anything about the hordes of racists!"

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Subjunctive posted:

They could also make short videos, but only black people wanted that so :rip:

"Dang guys, these kids are making some sweet vids."

"Whatever, boot 'em. Unrelated, I have to meet with some venture capitalists and explain how it's totally cool the KKK has protected status on our website."

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Solice Kirsk posted:

How? That can't be legal. The credit card for employees stuff I mean.

:lol: if you think corporate culture in the US gives a flying gently caress about what's legal when it comes to labor practices. They'll pay pennies on the dollar in fines, and find someone else to replace any workers that complain in days.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Krispy Kareem posted:

Unions absolutely create job scarcity. One of their most important benefits is creating barriers to entry through apprenticeships and licensing. If you make it more difficult to enter a field then you make the people already in the industry more valuable.

That is more skilled trade unions though. Unskilled labor unions don't use scarcity. They just make it impossible to hire non-union labor.
In other words the scarcity is preventing companies from being able to hire and fire at will, and reduce wages because they could do so were that the case. Almost as if the union is protecting the livelihood of its members or something.

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The act of recording your manager without his knowledge probably violated more corporate policies than yelling at people and being an rear end.
Hmm, yes, the classic, "It may being illegal but company policy is more important than the literal law of the land."

If you are against unions in this day and age, you are a loving idiot, full stop.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Krispy Kareem posted:

I'm not sure I want teachers in an union (and I say that as someone who has worked in classrooms)
Can't wait for sixty children classrooms crammed in front of a minimum wage drone mumbling rote from a textbook. Just think of the costs savings there will be!

But the kind of person who thinks that is awesome is apparently what we're going to get as Secretary of Education, so I guess functional public schools belong in this thread.

Zahi posted:

I don't have anything to add I just wanted to say this is a good post.

Nah, it's dumbfuck Fox News talking points stupidity.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Krispy Kareem posted:

Probably cheaper, since the whole reason we have retail clinics and urgent care is cost. Urgent Care can cost exponentially less than an E.R visit.

Retail medicine costs can't increase as fast as traditional medicine because it's patients don't have insurance or good insurance. This creates pricing pressure to keep bills low. You don't see that in hospitals or traditional doctor's offices because they're mostly shielded from the real price of care or it's lumped in with other costs like treating indigent patients.

Boy it's almost like those costs could be managed by top-down directives to fix pricing at reasonable levels or something. And maybe have a risk-pool of several hundred million to mitigate per-person expenditures.

Nah lets keep going with dozens of for-profit insurance companies that exist solely to price gouge both the consumers and the medical field. That's way more efficient!

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Solice Kirsk posted:

Was Uber ever supposed to be a "full time" job for people? Apparently so if they are helping finance cars, which I had no idea they were doing.

..This was literally their claimed business model as an alternative to cabs, so yes. Naturally, like all purely capitalistic enterprises, it is designed solely to enrich the wealthy (by claiming a webapp entitles them to the majority of a driver's revenue when in reality an open-sourced app could perform the same functionality) at the expense of labor (by shoving all operating costs onto the drivers while having zero expenses that aren't covered by idiot investors), which is exactly why capitalism is good and communism is for losers in their parents basement.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

dumb. posted:

So wait, are they blatantly admitting here that they actively interfere with law enforcement?

Excuse me, it's called trade practices and if you don't like it why don't you form a multinational transportation corporation and do it yourself?

Tumble posted:

I don't give a gently caress about anything in society except my own personal convenience.

The techbro business model in a nutshell.

And what is it with nerds getting mad about tips?

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Corrode posted:

Those games were the perfect storm for faddy nonsense - big peripherals that were useless for anything else, most enjoyable as a thing played with a group but not compelling enough to specifically have people over for, and the natural limitations that come along when you've released 4 of the same game and burned through all of the top 500 rock songs people will recognise. The whole concept was played out within a year of appearing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_Hero posted:

Despite early success, the series, along with the overall rhythm game genre, suffered from poor sales starting in 2009.

It's almost like something happened in 2008.

Definitely a fad though. Rhythm games as a whole are a pretty limited genre.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Nut to Butt posted:

That was actually paramilitaries allegedly working for a local bottling company. Get your facts straight, Mr. Literally!

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2622/did-coca-cola-torture-and-kill-workers-in-latin-america

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Coke says two separate judicial inquiries, one by a Colombian court and the other by the Colombian prosecutor general, "found no evidence . . . that bottler management conspired in or encouraged the murder."
That's some purestrain "guess the truth is somewhere in the middle".

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013
MadTV beat the poo poo out of SNL's nineties "we're still relevant here's a one-hit wonder you'll forget about in three weeks and Adam Sandler doing the same routine he's done in every movie he's ever done" garbage.

Also greatest musical guest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwO33oUawM8

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

monster on a stick posted:

That's what the lawsuit says, yes, which doesn't make it fact and doesn't make it true every single time. I've taken Uber to/from the airport, and they take the route that is displayed on the screen nearly all of the time which is the best route since it's the one I take when I drive. Once they switched in the middle of the route to avoid a traffic jam but that meant I got there faster :ohdear:

Where's the class action suit against taxi companies that routinely take the scenic route since you don't find out the price until after the ride is over.

If you want scummy, DC used to have this system of zones where you would pay the taxi by how many zones you crossed, so the taxis just did a grand tour of the city to charge you more.

Every single complaint about taxis is in defense of a company that is charging you and the driver to use an app that could have been shat out over a weekend by a comp 201 student. You are literally saying middlemen are cool and good and why does everything cost so much it must be the fault of labor.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

monster on a stick posted:

Oh noes middlemen! You should start railing against grocery stores next because all they do is take produce from farmers and sell them to me and clearly there's no real effort in doing that.

post-edit: Seriously if you think Uber is "just an app" you are a bit mistaken. You need servers to do the matchmaking between riders/drivers, payment processing which needs to be PCI compliant or no Visa/Mastercard for you (and also reconciliation because the books have to balance at the end of the day or SOX will get you for internal controls), now you've got the Uberpool thing which means figuring out who gets to pick up the riders in the general area of X who are also going to the general area of Y because otherwise everyone will get mad at having to do a city grand tour. I mean it's obvious you've written hello world in Python or something and think all software design is easy but lol.

Meanwhile RideAustin did all of that in the time it took you to write out a post jerking off about how awesome Uber is compared to cabbies, and wonder of wonders it's better for everybody involved. And Uber isn't a grocery store, it's a guy standing outside the store shaking you down for money before you can go inside. Also, lol if you think I didn't know any of that, and now I know why you're a jerkoff, you're an IT drone who thinks because he updates the HR departments email server he's the end all and be all of any discussion ever and knows more than anyone else about every thing because he has a skill set that the people he works around don't have.

I know how you get lovely cab service. You're an rear end in a top hat. You know why I know that? Because you get consistently lovely service. See, that happens because cabbies work together, and talk about lovely customers. Something tells me you come up quite a bit.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Tumble posted:

oh so you're one of those smart guys with a lovely attitude who thinks their work output is worth putting up with their total lack of workplace social skills.

i looooove getting rid of them.

Me asking questions about what they're doing is not micromanaging. That's me getting involved with what the people working under me are doing - that's good management. I want to know that we're on the same page and that we're both working in a direction that we think is the right way to go.

And me asking them for advice on decisions I'm going to be making, again, that's good management. I want the people working under me to have input on decisions that effect them and their work. And I like having those conversations face to face, because then we're both on the same page and nothing is lost in translation anywhere. There is some stuff that's fine being done over email and text messages when working from home, but in general I expect people to be at the office when they're doing work, that's why we have it.

Question what value are you actually adding to this environment that relates to increased efficiencies that would be lost due to not having some overpaid dipshit wandering around asking stupid questions? Because you haven't actually stated that you perform any actual work whatsoever, except a pile of buzzword bullshit that every manager ever spouts when they're asked to justify their existence.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Inescapable Duck posted:

Have to wonder how different the internet might look if early adopter ad companies hadn't poisoned, shat and dumped radioactive waste in the well.

Like managing ad space like every other form of media ever and charging per view instead of by click-through?

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Kinetica posted:

Be careful, D&D might hear you

Show us on the doll where somebody made fun of your anime.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Inescapable Duck posted:

Mostly subsisting on life support as IP farms, putting out a mix of pandering to their remaining fans and ill-considered fads and attempts at relevancy in the 'how do you do, fellow kids' vein to attempt to appeal to an audience that can barely even access the things while alienating the abovementioned rusted-on fans. A few of them, IDW mainly, specialise in licensed comics that are basically supplementary material for nerds. (Archie used to, but it seems they canned all their licensed stuff to focus on... Archie being dark drama or something, I dunno)
IDW is complete garbage in content as well as for its writers and artists.

I can't fathom why print comics are still a thing. Not collections or graphic novels mind, but monthly titles.

ryonguy has a new favorite as of 21:55 on Oct 10, 2017

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

lavaca posted:

This is the official Starbucks acquisition model: buy a related company (juice bar, bakery, tea shop, etc) claim that nothing will change with that company's operations and then shut the whole thing down a year or two later. It comes off as a really inefficient version of "acqui-hire" to me.

It's Monopoly Lite™. Easier on the legal fees, just as effective.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013
Whatever you do, stay the heck away from Whirlpool and any subsidiaries. I did QC work for a company contracted by Whirlpool; we have one of their larger manufacturing facilities in our town. Every component that made the dishwasher a dishwasher and not a plastic tub sitting in a metal box, pumps, motors, control boards, everything, was from China or Mexico, with the build quality you'd expect. Which is why the QC company I worked for literally had an office in the factory as they'd never run out of work.

Granted, probably all home appliance companies do this, which is why you should just buy the cheapest drat thing and expect to replace it eventually. Planned obsolescence has made buying for quality an exercise in futility below a certain economic level.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

walrusman posted:

They feast on the misfortunes of larger department stores, so they've been doing alright.

Last I heard, they don't actually buy as much castoffs/closeouts anymore, and justmostly get low quality stuff made directly for them.

Like Walmart, except not pretending it's the same quality as everybody else.

Yeah, this is more accurate.
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ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Haifisch posted:

Eh, I've seen clear closeout merch in them(local Body Shop closes, mysterious surge of Body Shop stuff in the local TJ Maxx), so they at least still do some of that alongside their low quality direct-made stuff.

You're right, and to be honest the articles I saw really only mentioned clothing.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

blugu64 posted:

5 guys is way overpriced for the quality. Whataburger is better and half the price.

In and Out forever. Gotta eat the fries fast though else you end up feeling like Mrs. John Lithgow.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

pangstrom posted:

Burger-eating will be automated in the next 10 years, anyway.

I read this as automatons will chew the food for engorged Hutt-like plutocrats of the upper class so they won't have to exert themselves.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Neon Noodle posted:

I am already a burger-eating machine

Same.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

quote:

targeting the consumer revolt against corruption and unethical practices in the media industry
Quality site there.:jerkbag:

A Pinball Wizard posted:

So Cracked fired all those people, and one they decided to keep was that idiot fucker David Wong.

What a surprise, the guy who took the Glengarry Glen Ross "coffee is for closers!" monologue literally as a great pep talk gets to sticks around. Hope he's got enough chapstick stocked up for management for the next few years.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013
It's almost like the internet is designed to be an information hub for the public and not a money generation device.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013
Are they re-branded Harbor Freight trash yet? I give them less than a year before the Made in China stamps start showing up.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Krispy Wafer posted:

Who does that? Because the FTC can be pretty strict about country if origin labeling. New Balance shoes spent years fighting them because while some of their shoes are made in the US, the materials are imported.

So why's three quarters of the prepared food I buy have "distributed by [company]" with no country of origin on it at all?

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Krispy Wafer posted:

Processed food isn't required to show country of origin. And 'processed' is probably used pretty liberally to include 'prepared'. "Oh we salted the meat, guess it's processed".

If I buy a whole chicken, the packaging will tell me where it's from. If I buy a chicken nugget - good luck. I think a recent rule stated American chickens could be shipped and prepared in China and then shipped back with no labeling required. But I don't think anyone actually does that since American food plant workers don't get paid enough to justify a 6k mile round trip ocean voyage for your food.

So why do you think the feds are gonna give more of a poo poo about country of origin for discount hand tools when they couldn't care less about stuff we actually put in our bodies?

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Krispy Wafer posted:

Different agencies. Food is handled under the FDA and manufactured goods are FTC.

There are also different motivations. We made lovely deals with China because we want to export to China. Part of the deal to allow Chinese chicken processing also opened up previously closed internal markets. Since we're a big exporter of food, our government is more aggressive about those deals. The Chinese do the same thing to increase exports in their core markets (hence all the terrible environmental damage the world exports to China).

We're more protectionist when it comes to manufacturing. Since 'made in America' is considered desirable for marketing, the FTC is picky about how it's used. To the point where companies try to make their stuff look as American as possible. Like 'designed in California'.

There's a lot bigger motive of people not wanting to eat stuff from a country that thinks melamine is a great baby formula additive, but somehow "made in USA" isn't desirable for marketing when it comes to food apparently.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013
I will never understand the concept of buying things through a system that is slightly more transparent than a box out of the back of a running white van with generally the same results. Amazon/Newegg/whatever directly, sure, but resellers/third party merchants? Hell no.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Professor Shark posted:

I was bored and was flipping through my Etsy conversations over the years and decided to see how a heritage clothing maker I spoke to a while back was doing.

Not so great

It's sad to see an enthusiast, genuinely nice guy with a passion for what he does slowly circle the drain :smith:

a dummy who doesn't understand how taxes work posted:

unexpected federal taxes I was charged on the Kickstarter donations

Is it really circling the drain if you're simply a poo poo businessman? Also

Burt Sexual posted:

Bespoke heritage garment manufacturer has the worlds tiniest target market i bet.

to be honest, and it's tied up by multinationals using slave labor just like every other facet of the garment industry.

BloodBag posted:

My wife and a lot of other people are slowly getting pushed out of etsy because etsy let a lot of shady resellers in. They lost sight of what made them worth visiting and are trying to be a technology company instead of a platform for people to sell their hand made stuff. Kinda like how every failed biz ITT didn't know what business they were in.

I think this is simply no due-diligence being done to ensure the merchants are actual creators and not resellers pushing product designs they stole from other Etsy merchants only for half the price because they're made in China.

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ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Professor Shark posted:

Hustling Conservatives seems like it's a very profitable business model
You got that right.

quote:

Net worth US$250 million (2017)

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Harton posted:

My mom works for wal-mart and she’s getting the 1000$ bonus cause she’s been there a long time. What the news isn’t bothering to tell anybody is that they also cut her hours for the next few weeks to 30 until she’s made 1000$ less then they are putting her back on 40 a week. gently caress Wal-Mart and the scumbag media that’s praising them for this bullshit.

:holymoley:

Get enough people to talk about this on the news and maybe we'll ahahahahah nobody is going to care, gently caress this country.:smith:

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Krispy Wafer posted:

As has been brought up, mall building had some tax benefits so there's a lot of 'unintended consequences' involved. For local communities malls are often the quickest, easiest way to revitalize an area. If you watch 'Roger & Me', Flint tries at one point to build a big theme park/mall that fails miserably. But it's what got investment because that's what they thought people wanted. And it does work. Sometimes. But not in an economic dead zone with no jobs.

As for other recessions the stores mostly just kept chugging on. They'd close a chunk of stores and expand again when the markets turned around. It's worse now because in addition to a recession you suddenly had Amazon.

I'm fairly certain local politicians have an even worse cargo cult understanding of economics than libertarians.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

there wolf posted:

You could pull out some social/cultural phenomena to set off each and every year if you wanted to. Generations are population-wide generalizations with 25-30 year spans that are really only delineated decades after the fact. It's kind of pointless to use it as a personal identifier, especially if you're at the edge of the age-range, and you might as well be examining entrails to try and guess which singular cultural phenomena is going to be The Defining One decades down the line. Will it be the internet? Will it be the period of destabilization and rising fascism set off by 9/11? Maybe it'll just be pre/post bellam when Trump starts a nuclear war.

Right now Millennials are transitioning away from just being the kids of Boomers, but if we stuck with that definition then today's high schools would still be considered Millennials. Sasha Obama is only 16.

Gen X was clearly defined as the children of Boomers decades ago. Millenials are usually defined as children of Gen X'ers. It's not black and white, but the delineation is reasonably simplistic.

I think what people are missing is that yes, Generation X is in their 40's and older now, and yes, you are that old. :smithicide:

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ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

AvesPKS posted:

What they also can't do is demand a minimum purchase amount to use a credit card. That violates their merchants agreement, at least with Visa.

Last I heard that finally got thrown out in court.

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