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drunk asian neighbor posted:Eh, I stream Spotify and Google Music off my phone all the time and I rarely come close to my 4GB cap. Especially since I have wifi at work and at home. IIRC you can set both apps to switch to lower-quality streaming when you're not on wifi. I guess it makes sense; Verizon and the like aren't really in competition with music companies. But man is it gonna be a shitshow when all ISPs enact data caps once every cancels cable and switches to Hulu and Netflix.
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MechaFrogzilla posted:Doesn't T Mobile exclude music streaming services from data tolling? T Mobile is the only one with unlimited data though.
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bradzilla posted:No they're not Only if you wanna count... *snickers*... Sprint!
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Nonsense posted:Is it still a feature the telcos overlook on android? that sounds tempting. PDANet hides tethering usage
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All I gotta say is when the final nail is hammered in for the true death of retail, I hope Microcenter makes it out alive. Last minute the other day I urgently needed an HDMI to VGA adapter. Figuring 90% of the projectors in corporate offices are still VGA, I ventured to Staples with the utmost confidence that they would have one or two types for sale. Nope. Nothing. Again, this is an office supply store and a ridiculous number of offices in the corporate world still use VGA for their projectors or older plasmas. I go to Microcenter and they had seven different ones to choose from. SEVEN. Seven different makes, models, and types of HDMI to VGA adapters. Staples had zero. 800 different cell phone cases and power strips that you can get at a loving pharmacy, but not something slightly unique that an office might actually need. I have no doubt that poo poo like this is why Staples is in dire trouble. Not to mention the Staples brand of DVD-Rs (that were on sale by the way) were literally double the price of the DVD-Rs at Microcenter. Basically what I am saying is long live Microcenter.
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I think there is going to be a resurgence of retail embracing knowledgeable, non-pushy salespeople. As some people in the thread said, a lot of people are turned off when someone tries to sell you overpriced crap because his supervisor makes him. Sometimes they will make a sale, but that person probably won't return. And you are turning off plenty of people, too. I just had an estimate done to get a patio in my backyard and the guy who came over was really annoyingly pushy. He wanted me to put money down to "secure" him so I can have it done before the summer. I saw work he did for a friend and it was great work but his way about him made me tell him I was going to keep shopping around. He was kind of making it like I was an rear end in a top hat if I didn't hire him, which basically guaranteed me not using him. Like 2 days later I posted on a local Facebook group for dads, and I was asking general questions about patio installations. This guy messaged me and talked to me for a good 45 minutes about the different RCA/sand/concrete that should be used as a base, what material to use for the edge to secure the bricks, how to pitch it properly for the rain, etc. I asked him how he knew all of this stuff and he eventually told me he has been doing it as his business for 32 years. He wasn't even trying to make a sale and just like the goons who posted about Sweetwater, it made me way more interested in hiring him. I asked him for a few photos of his recent work, one person for reference, and hired him right away. Just because he wasn't making me feel like I was buying a used car. The work came out incredible and I am going to hire him to do other parts of my yard as well. The other end of the spectrum is what a lot of other retailers are doing and hiring people who know barely anything and have almost no interest in helping you unless it's to open a credit card or buy a warranty. I mean Wal-Mart sucks if you ever need to ask a question about something, but at least they don't try to upsell worthless poo poo. Wal-Mart can get by on the business model of not knowing anything and having uninterested employees. But I have no idea how Sears or Guitar Center thinks they can apply that to dishwashers and digital pianos. If you want to see an example of a retailer that is doing fantastic, just read up on PC Richards (a longtime retailer in the North East). They pay their employees extremely well (sales people there can support a family), their employees are incredibly knowledgeable, they aren't pushy, and yet with all those things, they are incredibly successful and are doing very well as a company. Even Yelp reviews for their stores are high. I don't think I ever saw a retail store with good Yelp reviews ever. I mean obviously whatever all the other big box retailers are doing isn't working so you'd think more places would try this. Ryoshi posted:The Sears thing should not be a surprise to anyone that has ever had the displeasure of visiting their corporate HQ. This is hilarious and I want photographs of Sears HQ as soon as humanly possible. As for their horrendous CEO, isn't there some theory out there that he actually benefits more if they fail than if they succeed? I could be remembering it wrong but I could have sworn I read an article about that. e: and you answered the question right before my post! Chumbawumba4ever97 has a new favorite as of 19:47 on Jun 29, 2016 |
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eric posted:The sales people at PC Richards probably get a commission. The concept of sales associates that can't earn a commission infuriates me. Retailers try to spin this as creating a hassle free environment yet employees are reprimanded if they don't sell enough services/warranties/accessories/etc. that they don't get a cut of. Yeah, PC Richards do get commission. Unfortunately there are none in Vermont but I used to buy stuff from them all the time when I lived in NY and they somehow were way, way less pushy with warranties and add-ons than Best Buy ever was, yet Best Buy employees aren't even getting compensation out of it which is crazy. I think it is what destroyed Circuit City, too. They were doing fine when their workers were on commission. Then they fired all of their top employees (that is not a typo) and hired high schoolers for $7.50 an hour. You saw the difference immediately. Stores looked like poo poo, nobody knew anything, no one cared about helping you, and they were out of business not that much longer after that. I really do believe the executives get compensated for saving the company tons of money (no more salespeople earning 70k a year), then they get the hell out of there before poo poo hits the fan, then a few months later everyone realizes they should never shop there again and the guy who made that decision is long gone so he doesn't care anyway.
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PallasAthene posted:I know someone who got out of the military with full disability and since then he'll get a part time job at a place where he wants a discount, work a day or two a week and if it stops being fun he quits after a year or two. He worked at Cabela's for a while and said that their company really bought into the idea that now customers just use their computers or phones to pick what they want and just come in with their minds made up, so they just needed to follow what was trending online and have people there to hand out what people wanted. So he worked in the gun section and he said they went from hiring people who really knew a lot about guns or scopes to hiring people who "liked" guns and would work for minimum wage. He said after a while they stopped doing things like bringing people to train employees about guns or hunting and instead got people to give seminars about selling credit cards or warranties, and the company had a seminar where they divided customers into categories based on how much money they spent and how much time they took. I don't remember exactly how they did it, but I remember him saying that they called old people "Goldens" and because they tend to talk a lot and not have as much money to spend as young professionals or babyboomers, the company put them as lowest priority. He said it sucked because he said the only people who come in before noon were retired old guys who wanted to look at cowboys guns and their managers wanted them to pretty much blow the old guys off and vacuum the floor or something so they wouldn't come in now often because they didn't spend as much money per hour of interaction and as a whole they weren't tech-savvy enough to complain about it online. Yeah this is what I don't get. Retail has everything going against them compared to online except one thing: human interaction. You can buy anything online; the only reason you'd buy it in person is because it's clothing, or because it's something you need to know about and can speak to someone about. I am not going to call Amazon and ask them which dryer has the best features. Retailers not seeing this is amazing to me. And you mentioned Autozone which is a great point because I absolutely love that place and try to fix stuff myself and I am not that good with cars, but they explain everything to me. So I pretty much buy anything car related from them. If they hire a bunch of teens who only try to sell Modern Driver magazine subscriptions I'll just go to Amazon unless I absolutely positively need it that second.
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Solice Kirsk posted:There will always be salesmen for certain things. Cars, finance, whole sale liquor, pharmaceuticals, technology, etc. My fear is that eventually the competition for those positions will be so great because all the other places people used to be able to make a living as a salesman will be gone and it's going to be a huge cut throat industry even more so than it is now. Oh yeah salespeople are definitely needed. I just think they are better off being knowledgeable and selling what you came in for. For the long-term I feel like that is better than whatever Guitar Center is up to (I don't work or shop there; just going by posts here).
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Ah yes, the Radio Shack business model. Solid plan.
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kazr posted:amazon same day delivery is going to absolutely destroy every big box store lol It will really screw up Wal Mart but I don't see it impacting places that sell stuff like refrigerators or washing machines or anything. Just basically everything else though. Buy stock in retail locations that sell cold drinks or something you really can't get from Amazon even same day.
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darkhand posted:Wal-mart online also has incredibly obscure items a lot of times. It's going to be funny if Walmart ever complains that Amazon is pushing them out of a market. There were a bunch of protesters with picket signs a few years ago demanding Amazon start charging sales tax, which seems like an odd thing to be picketing. Anyway it turned out Walmart was behind the whole thing lol
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Booblord Zagats posted:The prices on TruCar are the ones that the dealers post. It's used to drive prices up and create an illusion of savings. Supposedly Costco has a great service for buying new cars and not dealing with having to haggle the lowest price, hoping the salesperson isn't loving you. And I guess it's legit because they never advertise it. And I really do hope some goon uploads a video of them touring Sears HQ like the Building 19 thrift video from a few years back.
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XK posted:Sears' website is the worst major retailer website I've ever seen. Seriously, go there right now and look up something that should be a prime Sears product, like a car jack, or a lawnmower blade. It's almost completely unusable. haha yeah. Search for "car jack" and you will get everything and anything that has either word in it. Tons of pages of "car floor mats" and "Jack the Ripper documentary on DVD" and maybe on page 72 you will come across a car jack. Speaking of Sears' website, anyone remember this gem? (  )
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Tashan Dorrsett posted:i worked in a warehouse like this for a little while for a popular video game company with a cell phone game that's really popular right now. they would lay off 50-300 people a week and a lot of those people would kill themselves. they were definitely circling the drain until the cell phone game came out. What country was this warehouse in? I'm assuming China?
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I'm not doubting you but how was dozens of US workers committing suicide not major news?
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mintskoal posted:I know it's been discussed to death in this thread but I went in a Kmart this weekend looking for a martini glass for a party (long story). What a bleak wasteland. poo poo scattered everywhere, employees that look about 2 seconds away from blowing their brains out, nothing really of value on the shelves. Looked like a shittier version of Goodwill. Of course they didn't have the glass but the Dollar Tree next door did so whatever. But retail magnate Eddie Lampert is a shrewd businesses man, that doesn't make any sense at all.
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Tumble posted:I returned a year-old AC unit to Wal-Mart because I was moving into a new building that only allowed floor-standing air conditioners. I had no receipt, and when the manager said I could exchange it, I just lied and said "Oh, no way. This things been shorting out my apartment for the last few months. I'll take store credit." This is so weird because I had the literal opposite experience at Wal Mart. I bought a new 3ds XL and had the receipt and it was brand new. I brought it back to Walmart maybe 16 days after I bought it and they absolutely refused to give me my money back. Wouldn't even give me store credit. I asked why and they said "14 days for game consoles only" and they absolutely refused to cut me a break. However, I got them in a sticky situation because they had opened the system to match the serial number to the receipt. So I told her "I handed you a brand new item, you opened it, and now you're giving it back to me telling me I can't return it? No way. Now I can't give it as a gift or sell it as new because you opened it". So the manager comes over and seems a bit more sympathetic but he literally could not get the computer to accept the return. On an item I bought 16 fuckin days ago, that was brand new, and I had a receipt for. I literally had to stand there on the phone with Walmart's 800 number who had me pass my cell phone to the manager as they instructed him on what to do. It involved them printing some weird label with an exception code written on it and they had to stay on the phone to make sure I actually handed it to them and did not walk out of the store with it. Then UPS would come pick it up and then I'd get my refund  I figured Walmart is just ridiculously anal about returns and manager's brains go into error loop mode when a return is 48 hours past the return date but then I hear stories like yours and I don't know what the gently caress to think.
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Justin Tyme posted:I always hear about Kmarts having old-rear end N64 games for full retail price still but when I went to the one around here on a whim they actually had zero video games at all, it was strange. Also random aisles in the middle of the store that sold MILK. No organization at all, the food sections weren't even logically laid out in the store, just random aisles of frozen food among clothes. Imagine going to Walmart and seeing off-brand steak-umms next to the loving medical/hygiene section. I regularly have weird dreams that I walk into a Kmart in the middle of nowhere down south and they are stocked with sealed copies of Chrono Trigger and Super Mario RPG. It makes sense this would be a dream because it would also result in me being a millionaire. Chumbawumba4ever97 has a new favorite as of 14:23 on Jul 26, 2016 |
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Darth123123 posted:You shop at Kmart Uh, I don't. There's none within even an hour of me.
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PallasAthene posted:Has anyone else noticed that they've been checking receipts as you leave Wal-Mart for the last month or so? I was walking out of the store and talking on my phone when one of the retiree-aged greeters stepped right in front of me and say "RECEIPT CHECK!" while thrusting his hand out at me. I asked him if that was a requirement to shop at Wal-Mart because as far as I knew, you had to agree to that when signing in, like at Sam's. He told me it's going to be a rule that everyone gets their bags checked as they leave, and they were going to be replacing all the greeters with LP agents in the next few months. I wonder if that's going to be nationwide. I used to shop at an electronics/music store in Brooklyn called "Nobody Beats The Wiz" (yes that Seinfeld episode was making fun of a real store) and no joke, they would take any and all of your bags or jacket as soon as you walked into the store and they'd give you a ticket to reclaim your bag/purse/jacket/whatever when you were done shopping. My mom used to hate taking me there but they had TMNT Secret of the Ooze on VHS!!!
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PC Richard is still doing very well. It's the only retail establishment I can think of where the employees are treated like humans and they actually can support a family on their salary there. Every time I go there, they know the ins and outs of their respective department, even on nerd stuff like TV refresh rates. And they're not pushy either. Supposedly they are financially very well, dispelling the myth that paying employees well spells instant doom. Whenever I visit my parents (they live on Long Island) I buy whatever I need for my home (I live in Vermont) from them just because of how great they are. Often times they are way cheaper than other places, too. And it's super easy to haggle the prices a bit.Y-Hat posted:
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Tallgeese posted:I can actually sort of explain this one. Are you sure? Costco had an "unlimited return policy" for a while. I bought an XBox 360 in 2006 and they let me return it in 2011 when it died. I got the full price back for it. They had changed the policy to 2 years by 2011, but had to honor it because it existed when I bought it in 2006. Chumbawumba4ever97 has a new favorite as of 19:51 on Jul 31, 2016 |
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thathonkey posted:not really related to your story but Costco is like the one major company that still gives half a gently caress about their employees and customers Notice they are still financially well-off. Funny how some companies manage to do both. With every other company claiming prices will skyrocket if they have to pay their employees higher than poverty-level wages. Motherfucker I just bought a delicious 17" circumference Costco cheesecake for $9!
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Darth123123 posted:Their biz model is different tho. No signage promotes random impulse buys, membership fees, etc all drive up profit. That's even funnier if all it takes is $60 a year per customer to pay employees well. You Are A Elf posted:Thanks to this thread, I now know that Biz Markie's "Nobody Beats the Biz" was more than just a killer rap song, he got the name from the store and the hook is an interpolation of the Wiz's jingle! Glad I could contribute! He was sued for it by the way.
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Krispy Kareem posted:I've read that those membership fees are most of Costco's profit. They said they cap their profit on product at I believe 17%. Still not too bad considering stores like Best Buy regularly sell things at 1% profit (laptops for example).
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Fat Shat Sings posted:I think it's as simple as some rear end in a top hat shareholder going: This kind of reminds me of chain restaurants that fill cups to the brim with ice to save 5 cents per glass because someone with Excel figured out "well times that by 30,000,000 drinks a year and that's an extra 1.5M per year!!!! Ignoring the fact that it pisses people off and makes them not want to go back as often. PallasAthene posted:Did they flat out fire you for making too much, cook up a reason, or just cut your hours until you had to find another job? It seems odd that a company can just say "We're getting rid of these people in exchange for cheaper labor" and not get in legal trouble or at the very least have to pay unemployment. This is definitely legal. I worked at Circuit City when they laid off their best salespeople (it was a company-wide thing). I wasn't on commission because I wasn't a salesman, so I have no horse in this race and I'm not bitter. Anyway, they laid off their best salespeople when they decided to stop commission sales because it was "costing them too much money" (somehow ignoring the fact that the employee was only making that much because they generated that much more in sales for the company). Anyway, they flat-out told anyone who averaged over $20 an hour that they were terminated (so if as a commissioned employee, you made $41,000 @ 40 hr a week that year, you were gone). Anyone who averaged less than $20 an hour were allowed to stay, and they would be paid their previous average as their hourly pay. Now keep in mind that at the time, you could work at Circuit City and raise a family (yes, in early 2000s this was real). I knew people there making $75,000 a year. These people had kids and were older and could sell a ketchup popsicle to a woman in white gloves. They also were constantly reading up on the latest tech news and they would extensively learn about any of the products they sold. They would go to a Pioneer, Panasonic, Bose, etc. showcase in different states to learn about the new products coming out. People would come back and spend thousands of dollars numerous times, each time requesting specific salesmen because they were so great. Anyway, they told anyone who averaged over $20 an hour they were fired. If you averaged $19.00 an hour, you now made $19.00 an hour no matter how you sold. So you could literally hide in the breakroom all day and you'd make the same amount of money as if you sold twelve flat-screen TVs. You can see why Circuit City is no longer in business. Anyway the point of the story was that employees absolutely were told "you are being fired because you make too much money". There was even a cutoff dollar amount. Eventually Circuit City got rid of anyone making more than $8-9 an hour a year or two later, which means there were literally zero good salespeople left. I had already left there long before that, but my friends who still worked there told me almost all employees were now 18-19 years old, stunk of weed, looked like they just rolled out of bed that morning, and knew nothing about anything sold in the store. This was a place where you used to get in trouble if you didn't wear clean dress shoes and a pressed dress shirt. So essentially, zero incentive to buy from them instead of Wal-Mart, but at least at Wal-Mart you kind of expect no one to be able to help you. tl;dr: firing employees for making too much money is entirely legal, and we were even told that's why you were being fired (or  laid off )
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Jumpingmanjim posted:So they fired their best salespeople and kept their worst? Yep. I was there for the termination meeting (even though I wasn't a salesperson). It was ridiculous. It was a big meeting in the car audio garage and they had tissue boxes everywhere (seriously) and everyone knew some poo poo was going down. "You performed to well last year, and you are being fired for it. Terrible to OK salespeople will remain". Then a year or two later they fired the remaining OK salespeople. If you want the way it was described verbatim, they basically just stated that anyone who averaged $20+ an hour due to commission, you are terminated immediately. I remember this one guy begging to keep his job, saying he would work for minimum wage, because his wife was 7 months pregnant and he was going to be completely hosed with her giving birth without health insurance. They were sympathetic (honestly the supervisors and managers there were cool people and were genuinely in tears), but they said they couldn't even pay him minimum wage because it had something to do with corporate assuming anyone taking that much of a paycut is going to be spiteful or vengeful. I really am not making any of this up. So yeah, oddly enough if you averaged $19.50 an hour, you got to stay, but if you averaged $20.01 and even offered to take a cut to $19.50 (or even $7) you could not stay. It was really weird.
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Mr. 47 posted:Actually, a big problem in corporate governance over the last couple decades is that companies often don't listen to shareholders. This is spot-on as almost all of my 401k is in stocks so I am literally a shareholder in several ways (I buy some stocks as well). I think people complaining about shareholders are the ones who want returns NOW NOW NOW. I guess those would be day traders? I'm not sure. A lot of times short-term profit decisions destroy long-term profits. A good example being the KB Toys debacle. Of course the stock is going to go up when you fire half your staff (which makes people who are stockholders happy) but it's going to eventually come crashing down when there's no one to stock shelves and going to the store is a miserable experience, leading to the stock crumbling in the end. At least that's what I assume is going on when people say they have a problem with shareholders.
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darkhand posted:I'm kinda surprised Sony hasn't come up with some social network crap. It seems like something dumb they would do I just looked up what they charge for a 64 gig card for the Vita. $110 US dollars.
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Humboldt Squid posted:We're pretty solidly lower class and on ebt (food stamps) but we do a couple big trips to costco a month because it actually saves you a ton of money. Two boxes of baby formula pays for the membership fee in savings. Plus the kids get really excited for samples. Yeah I never understood the whole "Costco does well because they cater to a fancier clientele" like they're Tiffany's or something. I wasn't exaggerating when I said that I buy cheesecakes and red velvet cakes that can feed a small village and they're like $9. I save so much money there. Moridin920 posted:anyway imo go back to stories of companies going down in flames there's like 4 different threads for talking about the plight of america today Why is their website still up and taking orders? Why does no one go to jail for this poo poo but a guy selling fake Prada bags gets arrested?
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Groovelord Neato posted:i'll never grasp how stupid the guy who took over sears is. i've read the article about him destroying sears probably a dozen times and it still never makes any sense. And he's still being paid ungodly amounts of money for running two companies into the ground. Makes u think...
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kazr posted:a part of me wants to get a super part time retail position along side my normal job so i can spend 12 hours a week telling customers to suck my drat balls and corporate to suck my dick, gently caress boys Kind of like in American Beauty. That does sound like fun. Get a job at Wal-Mart, not work a minute past when I'm supposed to, tell everyone we should unionize, tell them no I am not working on the day of my son's piano recital; all the stuff you wish you could do if you absolutely needed that job. I'm surprised some blogger or hidden camera youtube person hasn't done that yet.
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That sucks because when I have awesome supervisors I make it a point to never take advantage. In fact if my supervisor is a huge rear end in a top hat and makes my life miserable, that's more incentive for me to call in sick and not give a poo poo. If I'm happy there, I'm not going to try to weasel out of work. If I hate it (terrible boss) then my attitude becomes way more accepting of calling in sick. I once went 5 years straight of never calling in sick because I loved my boss and I never got sick (or if I did, it just happened to be on a weekend). I highly suspect that when it's an undesirable job, people are more likely to abuse a nice supervisor. For example, if I worked at Wal-Mart, I probably would take advantage of a nice boss. Because I get paid poo poo. But at a legit career, hells no I'd never take advantage of a nice boss. Quite the opposite. I'd come in with a broken ankle for people like that.
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Kumbamontu posted:I hate confrontation and being a supervisor in a call center for 10 months was one of the worst things I've ever had to do. So glad I don't have to be the boss anymore and can just hang out and crunch numbers while listening to music Yeah I do manual labor work but I'm asked all the time if I want to be a supervisor and lol if you think I'm going to tell a guy he's not getting paid for a week because he didn't shave his face properly before putting on his respirator. I mean I get that someone has to do it but I'm not going to.
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Krispy Kareem posted:Yeah, but what if he walked in with a chin strap beard. Then it'd be kind of worth it. They'd probably make me terminate him.
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Fat Shat Sings posted:Yeah I've learned that recently. I oversee two shift supervisors. I typically also work split 1st and 2nd or pure 2nd since I don't like working from 4:00AM and I choose my own hours. That sucks that is happening to you. If it makes you feel better, they're not filing reports against you because they hate you. It's because they know they messed up and are trying to save their asses. Like when you catch someone shoplifting and instead of just running away they scream and yell about how you touched them or something.
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Jumpingmanjim posted:https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-walmart-crime/ I like how when my car was broken into it took the cops six hours to show up and they could not have possibly cared less. But take a microwave from a Walmart and the entire force is called in.
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