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FAANG is more of a WallStreet term that relates to the speed at which the company grows. It's not really correlated with engineering complexity per-se, but the type of company culture / process required to sustain that kind of growth tends to be relatively uniform these days. Netflix is definitely the odd one out here, and people will sometime use GAFA instead. Aramis fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Jun 3, 2020 |
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Aramis posted:FAANG is more of a WallStreet term that relates to speed at which the company grows. It's not really correlated with Engineering complexity per-se, but the type of company culture / process required to sustain that kind of growth tends to be relatively uniform these days. And on the employment side it has to do with pay - all those companies will have a senior engineer approaching $300k in total comp.
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Shrecknet posted:Why is NetFlix even in that top tier, tf do they do except make the interface worse and make it autoplay when you're browsing. They do a lot of work with optimization of video streams. A lot of their engineers spend time pondering how do they shave off a fractions of the bitrate without compromising quality.
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having good 0s and 1s is their fundamental service. kinda want to say its impossible for them to jump the shark or feature bloat themselves, but who knows.
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Netflix reportedly accounted for ~12% of all downstream internet traffic in 2019. That probably requires a few engineers.
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Desiderata posted:My experience is that Project Managers, UX ideation designers, and various Agile Delivery Jira shufflers and similar software hangers on are the most the most tech bro of tech bros as they both get to be full time "idea guys in the digital space", without the rigour of having to actually do anything involving code or complex problem solving themselves. They also get to spend all day jockeying for promotion, and creating laughable sub-Ted 'innovation' talks and generating terrible unworkable projects because they have so much more free time compared the engineers who are too busy making their last dumb project work. I think the worst tech bros are the Product Managers who came into the space from consulting/IB/MBA programs. I never had that experience with designers and scrum masters/project managers/whatever.
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space marine todd posted:I think the worst tech bros are the Product Managers who came into the space from consulting/IB/MBA programs. I never had that experience with designers and scrum masters/project managers/whatever. Product management is basically straddling the line between engineering and marketing/sales and the people doing it can come from either side. Those on the former side are significantly better than those from the latter to work with as an engineering team and if they fail will have a product that works but doesn't sell for poo poo instead of a furious engineering team with zero morale.
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Incredibly, this guy was gunning to run for president
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Shrecknet posted:Why is NetFlix even in that top tier, tf do they do except make the interface worse and make it autoplay when you're browsing. You can turn off the auto play in the options now. While Netflix aren't as big as the others, their impact is huge in the software world, they were kind of pioneers in microservices space for example.
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Netflix is in the top tier because they pay their engineers a shitton, which is a reflection of their priorities.hobbesmaster posted:And on the employment side it has to do with pay - all those companies will have a senior engineer approaching $300k in total comp.
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levels.fyi has somewhat accurate compensation information: https://www.levels.fyi/hobbesmaster posted:Product management is basically straddling the line between engineering and marketing/sales and the people doing it can come from either side. Those on the former side are significantly better than those from the latter to work with as an engineering team and if they fail will have a product that works but doesn't sell for poo poo instead of a furious engineering team with zero morale. I'm a product manager and I actually think that when it's done well, it's entirely distinct from engineering and marketing/sales. The issue is that there are *a lot* of just total bullshit product managers and product orgs out there. So many companies are running waterfall with agile ceremonies. Ugh.
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space marine todd posted:levels.fyi has somewhat accurate compensation information: https://www.levels.fyi/ "Waterfall with agile ceremony" sounds like something you'd see in a random encounter table.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:"Waterfall with agile ceremony" sounds like something you'd see in a random encounter table. those companies could probably come up with better products if they just made a tabletop game out of it instead of pretending they are running agile
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Absurd Alhazred posted:"Waterfall with agile ceremony" sounds like something you'd see in a random encounter table. That's SAFe!!! https://www.scaledagileframework.com/
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poemdexter posted:That's SAFe!!! https://www.scaledagileframework.com/ Oh god, I wouldn't wish SAFe on my enemies.
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poemdexter posted:That's SAFe!!! https://www.scaledagileframework.com/ "Lean Enterprise" 
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poemdexter posted:That's SAFe!!! https://www.scaledagileframework.com/ These graphs are the living embodiment of Poe's law. If I was tasked to draw up a parody of a work framework, I don't think I could come up with something better.
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The best part is, just like in real life, the architect in their own box and connects to nothing else in the company nor contributes anything. Also don't forget the consultant you have to hire as part of the leadership team!
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Shrecknet posted:Why is NetFlix even in that top tier, tf do they do except make the interface worse and make it autoplay when you're browsing. You say this, but there's a streaming service with the categorically worst app performance, operation, and UI on literally every platform that has it (FUNimation).
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space marine todd posted:those companies could probably come up with better products if they just made a tabletop game out of it instead of pretending they are running agile Everyone has been told for years they have to be project managers and now people who don't really PM anything are getting PM certs purely so that they look like good candidates for other jobs/promotions. They then return to jobs where they do zero actual project management, or do it wrong after cramming for the PM cert test.
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Shrecknet posted:It seriously cannot take that many coders to just digitise and upload movies. quote:Businesses that actually care about turning a profit will spend a lot of time (hence, a lot of engineers) working on optimizing systems, even if an MVP for the system could have been built in a weekend. There's also a wide body of research that's found that decreasing latency has a signifiacnt effect on revenue over a pretty wide range of latencies for some businesses. Increasing performance also has the benefit of reducing costs. Businesses should keep adding engineers to work on optimization until the cost of adding an engineer equals the revenue gain plus the cost savings at the margin. This is often many more engineers than people realize.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:"Lean Enterprise" https://youtu.be/XHOLFZnFa0w E: Seriously, I remember seeing this chart on the wall of an auditorium in college where software engineering courses were taught. I think one of the professors was a big proponent of this framework. I suppose the informatics majors were learning this insanity; not a good use of time IMO. America Inc. fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Jun 4, 2020 |
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Mega Comrade posted:You can turn off the auto play in the options now. Holy poo poo thank you for mentioning this.
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auto play and inf scroll are top three worst features ever.
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https://twitter.com/DanPriceSeattle/status/1270815750769373186 Also, Uber's not having the greatest day today. https://twitter.com/amyklobuchar/status/1270842738737643520 https://twitter.com/CSaid/status/1270849115123888128
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Megillah Gorilla posted:"virtual walkout" It's more of a concrete implementation of an abstract walkout
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Multiple articles I’ve seen mentioned that “dozens” of fb employees virtually walked out. Of 45,000? Really effecting change there, folks.
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HootTheOwl posted:It's more of a concrete implementation of an abstract walkout 
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The funniest instances were when they registered the walkout as PTO, effectively withholding no labor
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Holy poo poo. I assume you all saw the news story about Ebay harassing a blogger? Sending fetal pigs to the house, ordering pizzas, sending sex toys addressed to them at the neighbor's address. Lots of ugly stuff. Today it came out that the fricking CEO was involved. And the head of PR. quote:[PR Head] Wymer allegedly sent a text to [CEO]Wenig in April of last year saying, “We are going to crush this lady” after the newsletter published a story about Wenig’s compensation, according to the indictment.
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Wow. Holy poo poo indeed
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Holy poo poo. I assume you all saw the news story about Ebay harassing a blogger? Sending fetal pigs to the house, ordering pizzas, sending sex toys addressed to them at the neighbor's address. Lots of ugly stuff. It's almost like Uber's CIO trying to dig up dirt on a rape victim to smear her and protect the company normalized this behavior.
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https://twitter.com/extremelysquid/status/1273630035371532294
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More evidence that twitter is 100% garbage.
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https://twitter.com/poemdexter/status/1273730069693976577 I did this during our last refinement session and no one seemed to mind. I even had my mic on so they could hear the d8 hitting the desk. SAFe is a joke.
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Make sure the dice is only fibonacci numbers!
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pentyne posted:It's almost like Uber's CIO trying to dig up dirt on a rape victim to smear her and protect the company normalized this behavior. I"d say that it always was normal behavior, but that the availability of social media has made it somewhat likelier that the victim can get attention.
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Sociopathy is a trait we select for in corporate executives.
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And, boy, is our breeding program getting results!
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