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RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer

born on a buy you posted:

Dropbox and Evernote also competing with Google, Apple, Amazon, and Microsoft where their entire product is provided as an additional feature to other products (this means they're long term losers)

If Evernote folds that'll be a shame. Not that their product is more useful to me than the competitors; it'll just be a hassle transferring everything to Onenote.

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RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
You know what we need? An app where people can vote on their favorite term for a person who specializes in the development of software. The first vote is free, but each subsequent vote requires a micro-transaction. This way the market can decide whose right! The idea can is an incredibly sound and versatile way to generate profit. No one else is doing it, and it can be applied to other linguistic debates.

I'll just need a 75k kickstarter and another 1.5 million in venture capital.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
You know something, "The idea can" was a proofreading error, but that sounds like a great name for the app. "The Idea Can". And it makes deciding on a logo much easier.

Edit: I just checked and that isn't trademarked. The Idea Can can be registered for a scant $150.

RandomPauI fucked around with this message at 11:45 on Apr 4, 2016

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
You now, I was just joking about The Idea Can thing where you pay for votes. But if people are willing to pay for leftovers they're probably willing to pay for votes too. The press release writes itself in like 5 minutes.

"We don't just give organizations and individuals a forum for ideas. Each idea is a force of nature and we provide a way to channel the idea in a productive and democratic manner.

Our suites of apps and services include customized platforms to gauge a communities needs and desires; a broad range of anonymous, customer-centric data analysis; even novel profit-sharing opportunities that empower individuals in creative ways.

We believe in the idea. We nurture the idea to its full potential. We allow the idea to translate and transcend cultural barriers. We make sure that the idea, can."

TLDR: We have a few superficially different vote-counting apps; collect and sell user data; and let people buy/sell/trade votes. For that last one we split the money with whoever paid to hold the vote in the first place.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer

Liquid Communism posted:

Yeah, even in Texas you can't get away with automated sentry guns.

So what you're saying is the sentry guns need to send you a text first asking permission to open fire. Brilliant!

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer

sbaldrick posted:

You take out a loan against the shares, leave and sell. Enjoy your money.

Except Uber prohibits taking loans against the shares.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer

Cultural Imperial posted:

I just happened to surf into acronym/isaora/rancourt websites and they're all using something called "Affirm" which is some sort of monthly installment purchasing service. Holy poo poo gently caress this economy and gently caress you if you use this.

Can you give a bit more context there? What are they buying and how are installment payments bad?

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
The Forbes article isn't loading for me, what does it say?

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer

Absurd Alhazred posted:

So I guess I'm a bit confused: if the term sheet isn't dirty in that way, how is Forbes calculating that she is now worth zero?


How smart can money be if it got invested in Theranos in the first place, though? :v:

My guess is they round down if your net worth is under several million dollars.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer

Angular Landbury posted:

I was wondering what part of the country would have deployed environmental investigators to shut down a glorified bake sale.

Imagine my lack of surprise when it was California.

This isn't a glorified bake sale though. If you wanted to use this service to bake cookies and brownies and rice crispy treats and someone wanted to use the service to buy cookies and brownies and rice crispy treats they'd be in the clear. California has exemptions for baked goods, candies, pastas, and other dry foods that don't require refrigeration once they're cooked.

The reason why the company isn't in the clear is because they sold commercial-quality foods without following any of the laws that apply to commercial-quality food preparers. The company can say they vetted the chefs and checked out the kitchens but you can bet the county health agencies haven't.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
So instead of buying a backup hard drive and using central cloud storage people will use a backup drive and decentralized cloud storage.

But what happens if someone pulls their buttcoin cloud server offline?

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer

Arsenic Lupin posted:

This is stretching out longer than Francisco Franco's death.

He's still dead right? SNL stopped giving status updates decades ago.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer

Subjunctive posted:

There are similar programs for pet therapy at hospitals, though I think cats are no longer recommended for health risk reasons.

How about pet therapy capybaras?

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
FanDuel and DraftKings were trying to merge together last week, I don't know if that's still going on.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
I know Twitter isn't a unicorn anymore but it's down. The news sites are still up, though.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
It's worse than just temp work. Temp work comes with rights as an employee. You sign up as a freelancer. Since they aren't directly hiring you they aren't on the hook for your benefits and neither are the companies that are hiring you.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
I think there's a stronger case that the gig economy increased because of bad employment prospects. Wages have been stagnant since the 1980s. The notion of a company being loyal to its employees died out sometime in the 90s. The burden of training has fallen on prospective employees who take on a lot of debt or perform a lot of unpaid work to demonstrate their ability to perform basic tasks. Heck, the phrase permalance was coined in 2007 when Bush was still in office.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
I'm not saying cell phones don't play a part in the gig economy. It'd be hard to have the current gig economy without cell phones. But a gig economy depends on having a lot of people having free time for intermittent work and a willingness to work for less money and benefits than people employed to work in their field full time. This implies people turning to the gig economy out of necessity either because their primary job(s) don't pay enough to meet the person's real or perceived needs. Assuming the gigs aren't their full-time jobs.

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FlamingLiberal posted:

Yes it's a combination of factors, but prior to Obamacare a lot of people stayed in jobs they didn't necessarily like because otherwise it was basically impossible to get healthcare coverage.

I'm sure that was a factor for some people but in general why trade a job with a schedule and benefits for a job where you hope to get work and where you pay for everything out of pocket and where your expenses will almost certainly increase faster than your earnings?

RandomPauI fucked around with this message at 14:47 on Nov 18, 2016

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
I didn't read it as companies shouldn't be bought and sold. I read it as the stock market shouldn't be giving so much weight to certain types of companies. Specifically, ones where the business plans are; try to form a monopoly, try to get bought out, or try to generate data to sell to other people. Especially because a lot of companies are trying to cash in on the same ideas.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
It's also important for California to push on this because the failure to do so would establish a precedent that cars that mostly drove themselves don't need a permit. If a car isn't self-driving because the driver moved the steering wheel once every two to three minutes what about five minutes? Ten minutes? And by that point you could make the argument that a car that can be overridden by the driver isn't even self-driving. It'd be a dumb argument, but Uber would make it if it thought it could get away with it.

The state can draw the line in the sand now or it can risk the line being established by an unfavorable court ruling later.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

They did, and the uber car, in requiring human input to navigate doesn't meet the requirements. It's literally not a self driving car. It literally has a person that is driving it and taking frequent action to control the car.

I'm not clear on it needing that much intervention by design or because the system makes too many mistakes. But to my mind if the car can literally drive itself a few minutes at a time is self driving.

There are exemptions for equipment that helps the driver but those can't be trusted to drive cars. Cruise control sets the speed and that's it. No concern for collisions. Collision avoidance and lane assist can help prevent accidents. But they can't detect driving conditions and don't have precise navigational controls. GPS can tell you where you're at and where your going but it doesn't steer. Once you put those all into an integrated system designed to drive a car without input it becomes a self- driving car.

Uber doesn't get a pass on that because there are, on average, one input every 2.5 minutes On the highway at speed that's almost 3 miles. In a school zone or a bus stop that can be the difference between a driver noticing a signal and slowing down and the car not noticing and driving into someone who came from behind a bus.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
Off topic, but any advice for how I can marry a Space Doctor?

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
I had a rebadged mp3/video/mini-gameplayer from one of the big memory making companies. It was fine, I even sort of miss it.

gently caress iTunes though. A few years back it deleted every song from my music collection that wasn't bought from their store. I don't know how many ripped albums and e-music albums I lost. And some :filez: too of course.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
This article isn't about a unicorn, but the app company it talks about seems full of that unicorn spirit.

“We’re not trying to gamify or make fun of this experience. The adoption industry at large is a little bit underserved by the tech industry. We saw this unique opportunity to disrupt it, particularly when you’re talking about online adoption."

"Once you’ve created a parenting profile, simply set your search criteria and Adoptly will instantly filter through our database bringing the broadest range of adoptable kids straight to your fingertips. Just swipe right if you’re interested, or left to keep looking. And if a kid, through their agency or foster care, like you back it’s a match.”

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
Is it really custom furniture if the only thing that isn't mass produced is the fabric exterior but you only have a small list of choices for that?

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer

Subjunctive posted:

Yeah, that's how the furniture industry rolls. It also has to take 8-12 weeks to arrive.

So really it's only customized, with the customization limited to upholstery. Which isn't a new thing, but it's probably something that my generation's mostly forgotten about or ignored because money.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
It's telling that none of the team members have anything to do with furniture assembly. And that the only positions they're hiring for are white-color jobs based in the USA. And that they refer to a commitment to "build" in "North America" without any reference to where they actually source the parts and materials.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
Tunnel-chat reminded me of something. The life and death of a unicorn resembles the life and death of a unicorn thread derail: no offence meant to the thread posters.


First, there's a true, die-hard believer. In business, this would the unicorn determined to use "disruption" to dominate a field. But with a thread derail it's a poster determined to defend a given unicorn's "disruptive" desires no matter what. The unicorn and the poster will justify their stance using personal anecdotes, a vague understanding about what the law/research says, or promises for a better tomorrow. All that's needed is time, effort, and either a lot of money or a lot of words. What happens next separates the believer poster from someone who happens to have contrary views.

Non-believers will respond to the unicorn's claims. They'll offer different reasons why the idea won't work as advertised—if it could work at all. These claims are often backed up with much more grounded technical and legal arguments. Someone who thinks the unicorn could still succeed might respond with cautious optimism: even if things aren't there yet the unicorn's claims might prove partially valid; the tech that gets developed along the way would be useful, et cetera. They could agree to disagree, letting the thread move on to something else.

But the unicorn and the believer poster will double down. Eventually, the unicorn and the believer poster will try different rhetorical or legal tricks instead of accepting the validity of the non-believers' counterarguments. Accepting those counterarguments would be admitting the failure of the original concept. And the concept can't fail, it can only be failed.

Here's where there's a big divergence between the unicorn and the believer poster. The believing poster will continue to use their own time and energy trying to justify the same points over and over again. And the non-believing posters will invest their own time and energy to counter the believer. They're both still investing in the thread derail even if it's for cross–purposes. The unicorn will go thru plenty of investments too. But the people who invest in the unicorn expect to turn a profit instead of win an argument.

Eventually, diminishing returns will kill the unicorn or the unicorn thread derail. The unicorn or derail might die for lack of interest. The courts, lawmakers, or mods might step in and shut things down. A company might buy the unicorn. A poster might make a new thread for the conversation so it stops being a derail. Ultimately, the unicorn or derail only succeeded in relatively small and temporary "disruptions".

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
I don't know the background to the Uber_NYC strike stuff. What happened and how is Uber profiting off of fewer fares?

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
Just to be clear, Amazon is just testing some retail stores right? And there are technical problems that could be overcome in theory but the costs in practice might be ridiculously high?

The notion of them preventing theft with rfid tags and cameras makes me laugh. Having an email address and a cellphone with a compatible app is a barrier to certain groups but Amazon's not targeting those demographics. But maybe they'll figure some things out that are useful down the road. Things which will put more retail workers out of a job.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
In this case there isn't much actual info in thread​ about how it can or can't work. Mostly appeals to vaguely similar models. Which implies a lot of info not available to the public. So it's harder to see it as anything more than tech demos.

Even so, I really doubt that cameras for purchases and loss prevention with no clerk and no door guard would be sufficient. The smartphone/app requirement locks people out but they can only target so many demographics. And I'm not sure how the people will see a working tally and list to confirm final purchases if they're just supposed to walk out the door.

If they turn this around into developing better inventory management systems for licence that could net them a lot of money. All without having to deal with the overhead of a lot of store fronts. So that's still my guess.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
Just to add my two cents to the line thing.

I've never been to a Trader Joe's that wasn't many small lines. And the only local places around me that still have self-checkouts are places that have a lot of staff and security. Like the Ralphs that's priced and marketed towards people who live on the beachfront/harbor front. Unless they were stores that didn't care about shrinkage. Which is every Walmart around here.

Remember when Walmart fired all its old and disabled greeters? That's because those jobs were replaced by asset protection, AP. That sort of AP meant greeting people at the door, helping with carry-ins and carry-outs, and watching out for shoplifters. And they weren't given walkee-talkees. And could only leave their station to get a manager if there was a second person working AP too, which wasn't common. Which made them useless for asset protection.

When I was put on AP I'd just write things down for the manager. That person was on the no-admit list and went in anyways. This guy always threw away his receipt in a conspicuous way before leaving the store, only to return 20 minutes later. Another person said they didn't buy anything, but they came in with an empty backpack and left thru the main enterance with a full one. The manager would hear my report but they wouldn't ask for the paper or anything. Most employees didn't even bother. The device that printed stickers for items being returned only worked part of the time too, so customer service had to take returns on faith.

Oddly enough, last year Walmart patented self-pushing carts. No one wants to do the job for minimum wage but Walmart doesn't want to pay more than minimum wage. I can see them embracing an Amazon system too. It'd be more proof they were cutting employee costs and that's more important to their investors than shrinkage.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
My fallback is an app that lets you vote on all sorts of different topics and issues. You get the polls from content providers and forward the info back to them. You hold on to the data you gather. You can even let people buy extra-credit votes. Ones that let the providers know how many people love/hate the deal to spend money on it.

You can market it as "You're good at getting info from your core market, but what about people who'd never consider your product to begin with? How do you tap into that?"

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
An app that sends an escort to listen to you with the option of buying friendly, non-gropy hug. And that's it. No review can refer to anything beyond the talk session/hug session and anything that happens after that is independent of the terms of use of the app. This is completely legitimate and not a front for prostitutes.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
An app automated to do complete those mindless "fill this, watch that, or push those buttons to get points towards a reward!" apps, preferably run in the background.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
The Chinese study sounds like a study where they'd compare the images of the Han majority against minority groups that are frequently persecuted by the Chinese The higher one deviates from the Han average the more likely it is that you'll belong to a group that faces crackdowns. And the more likely the cops crack down on a minority group the more likely they'll be found guilty of crimes. We've run into a similar problem in the states.

When you think about it, this really is modern-day phrenology.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
Sarehu, do you happen to be an executive?

You should still have access to the online diversity training. Just look at the 30-minute slide show and remember to answer to the quiz, not to your gut instincts. You can also have your secretary write a handy business card sized checklist; don't forget to check it before speaking in public.

You don't even need to understand why you need to follow the checklist beyond "if I do or say these things then bad things happen like they did to my bros Larry Summers and Dov Charney."

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
I think LA is the designated target for traffic because people want to feel like their differently crappy roads are better than someone else's.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
Phone posting, otherwise I'd post the SNL sketch about an investment firm stuck with clownpenis.com.

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RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer

fishmech posted:

Uh, because the parking brake control on the cars in question will literally snap off? I doubt your VW was breaking like this.
https://twitter.com/Tweetermeyer/status/854045821867786241

That's a pretty big issue for any car, it's ludicrous for cars that start at $70,000 and only get pricier

How does that even happen?

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