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ROFLburger posted:wait so vega was secretly an rear end in a top hat? Not so secret? He was your buddy but he wasn't exactly a saint. And did you miss in the end of the campaign where he reconnected with the Makyr home-world? He says something like "Wait, Samuel, does this mean I was father?". He was always angel-tech AI. That said, the dialogue, "You are here to restore order to my world" makes it sound more like we're helping Vega/Father to cleanse the Maykyr/Heaven dimension, more than fighting against him. So he's still not an rear end in a top hat. That oil platform looks pretty cool.
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Vega is probably just pissed that DoomGuy broke the seal in Urdak so now he's calling in a favor so the DoomGuy cleans up his mess.
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Zaphod42 posted:That said, the dialogue, "You are here to restore order to my world" makes it sound more like we're helping Vega/Father to cleanse the Maykyr/Heaven dimension, more than fighting against him. So he's still not an rear end in a top hat. Father using doomguy to restore order to "his world", yeah that should go over well
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making vega the father and hayden a defecting maykr was really dumb retconning
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Doom Eternal was really dumb retconning
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Snazzy Frocks posted:making vega the father and hayden a defecting maykr was really dumb retconning Yeahhh I'm not sure why they decided to get rid of a genuinely interesting and ambivalent character (Hayden) in favor of a Helpful Narration Angel. He's still got those "I know best and you'll do what I require" vibes but he was a lot more compelling as Elon Musk than the Archangel Samuel.
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Doom eternals dumb story means more levels and setpieces are coming out this year, which means we get more doom eternal. Ergo, doom eternals story is good.
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multijoe posted:Doom Eternal was really dumb retconning I call it Dumb Eternal syke i dont care about the story its fine
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so probably a new superheavy in the form of those demonized maykrs and some new blue fire buff as shown on the
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Vega is the sort of AI that helps you self destruct him and apologizes for the inconvenience. Sure he was the admin AI for Hayden's hell mining company in 2016, but his whole job was to be Anti-Shodan "Only a budget rate AI would betray you or get corrupted" So things like "Vega was no saint" is kind of a stretch, without Eternal's retcons. Which still include details like "Yes I will help the Doom Guy shoot Mars like he wants" so that being a sign Vega Was Evil The Whole Time means no slayer you are the demons. Snazzy Frocks posted:making vega the father and hayden a defecting maykr was really dumb retconning I think it might not actually be a joke that "Vega ignores 'haha AI are easily corrupted in fiction' and is here to handle your Bingo card when you kill demons with a sick kick flip" was the only part of the 2016-Eternal lore I truly and genuinley gave a poo poo about. Sure he nearly a non-character in 2016, but hey minimalist worked out great for Doom Guy in 2016 too. Which continued on with Eternal, where some of the most talked about parts of "Story good" is the Buddy AI dynamic moments where he just 'gets' doom guy. Section Z fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Aug 7, 2020 |
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Section Z posted:So things like "Vega was no saint" is kind of a stretch, without Eternal's retcons. Which still include details like "Yes I will help the Doom Guy shoot Mars like he wants" so that being a sign Vega Was Evil The Whole Time means no slayer you are the demons. Again, you're going to likely be teaming up WITH Vega to cleanse his realm. He's not evil. You're entirely misreading what I meant when I said "he's no saint". Vega is decidedly NOT "evil the whole time" I don't know where you're getting that. This is a way way way way too black/white look at the doom universe. "Well either you're satan or you're jesus" is not how this world works. Everybody is bloodstained. He does not appear to be the antagonist, dude. My point is just literally what those words mean, "he is no saint". All the Maykyr are not really angels just weird alien / otherdimensional beings. None of them are "pure" or "holy". That's all I was saying. You're... totally misreading this. No, slayer is not the bad guy and neither is Vega. But also Slayer doesn't mind blowing poo poo up and neither does Vega. That's all. Jeeze. Really took those words entirely out of context, like you read "he's no saint" and stopped reading the post to respond. Finish reading it lol.
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 The Summoner is back. So we get an Archvile-type spawning enemy mixed with a Whiplash. Fun.
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Gonna be interested to see how they differentiate the Summoner from the Archvile, and preemptively cussing a storm about a double battle with them
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Hugo and Marty did a panel on Bethesda's QuakeCon stream. First off, here's a montage of developers wearing Slayer helmets set to what appears to be new music from the DLC... Secondly, the next Master Level will be Super Gore Nest! It'll have optional challenges for cosmetic rewards, and a new twist or two beyond just "harder monsters"... Thirdly, a new game mode is coming: Classic Mode. This strips you down to a Shotgun start and has you reassemble your arsenal as you progress through the level. Invasion Mode is still coming, but it's been slowed down by working from home. It'll probably be an early-next-year thing. Ranked Battlemode is coming, and it'll have its own set of seasonal cosmetic crap to unlock by kicking people's asses. Switch port is still in the works.
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You can see how the whiplash attacks were drawn from the summoner for Eternal with the enemy spawning given back to the archvile. My guess is that the summoner will only be able to pull in Imps and Gargoyles and maybe Hellraisers if they come back too, leaving the Archvile to summon bigger enemies. Also the summoner wouldn't have a flame shield like the Archvile. Edit. Shotgun definitely beats pistol starts.
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The Kins posted:Thirdly, a new game mode is coming: Classic Mode. This strips you down to a Shotgun start and has you reassemble your arsenal as you progress through the level. ah gently caress man i think this is beyond my skills
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I'd be so down if they brought back the pistol specifically for a pistol-start mode. Then when you pick up the shotgun it just replaces your pistol for the rest of the level.
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I am stupidly excited for the Gore Nest Master Level and welcome more weird variations.
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The Kins posted:Thirdly, a new game mode is coming: Classic Mode. This strips you down to a Shotgun start and has you reassemble your arsenal as you progress through the level. Yeah this sounds pretty fun to me
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well why not posted:Where’s the arcade mode
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Hugo also spoiled that in the DLCs you will fight Samuel and find out who the leader of hell is.
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Idgaf about their name, just whether or not I can rip and tear those (assumedly) large guts.
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Jack Trades posted:Hugo also spoiled that in the DLCs you will fight Samuel and find out who the leader of hell is. good I want to finally wreck that rear end in a top hat
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So much for "every DLC will have you play a different character with different abilities".
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They never said that. They description for the year 1 expansions originally said "new perspectives and new way to play", and people extrapolated from that, and made poo poo up like the internet always does.
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It also included the phrase "standalone stories". And it's not like it was a nebulous "the internet", it was widely reported by pretty much every site. And Bethesda was more than happy to let that stand uncorrected.
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Jack Trades posted:Hugo also spoiled that in the DLCs you will fight Samuel and find out who the leader of hell is. Whoops, tautology!
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DatonKallandor posted:So much for "every DLC will have you play a different character with different abilities". That sounds crazy to me, but I guess its what Wolfenstein did.
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I felt like Wolfenstein TNC’s DLC fuckin sucked because yeah you played three characters, but you were still fighting the same dudes in the same hallways, only now each character possessed a small slice of the weapons and abilities that BJ ended up with by the end of the base game. There wasn’t anything new. So I’m glad it doesn’t sound like they’re going that route, because $29.99 for another 2.5-3 hours of Wolfenstein TNC, only with less stuff at any given moment, was lame as hell.
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I'm not sure I was even aware there was any significant DLC for Wolf TNC. I finished that game then kinda never really thought about it again.
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Not gonna lie, Vinnie Jones as QuakeGuy is something I'd be down for.
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Jack Trades posted:Hugo also spoiled that in the DLCs you will fight Samuel and find out who the leader of hell is. It's a fallen makyr named Saytyn
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Snazzy Frocks posted:It's a fallen makyr named Saytyn Lucyfyr
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Byyzylbyb
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Mmmn
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