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I never really bothered with heat blast and am just generally bad at juggling weapon mods, but the microwave beam is absolutely needed for dealing with spirits. Spirits aren't absurdly common that you won't be able to use heat blast / keep microwave on all the time.
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Doom Eternal DLC1 is all the worst parts of Doom Eternal turned up to 11. Invisible walls everywhere, endless arena waves, aggressively stupid and self-serious Lore, overreliance on breaking weak points, meme fights, different kinds of monster buffs, tuneless chugging guitar riffs, seemingly interminable map length, annoying glitches. Level 3 by itself killed nearly all interest I had for DLC2. I am tired of this gimmicky treadmill of layering additional superheavy monsters and monster buffs and it seems like that's the extent of what id Software wants to do with the Doom franchise nowadays. Oh also the humans were easily the least visually impressive part of Doom Eternal and I can't understand why they decided to put more of them front and center.
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Oct 21, 2020 17:51
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The regular humans don't really look that great which is a shame because Olivia Pierce looked amazing on 2016.
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Oct 21, 2020 17:57
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Linguica posted:Doom Eternal DLC1 is all the worst parts of Doom Eternal turned up to 11. Invisible walls everywhere, endless arena waves, aggressively stupid and self-serious Lore, overreliance on breaking weak points, meme fights, different kinds of monster buffs, tuneless chugging guitar riffs, annoying glitches. Level 3 by itself killed nearly all interest I had for DLC2. I am tired of this gimmicky treadmill of layering additional superheavy monsters and monster buffs and it seems like that's the extent of what id Software wants to do with the Doom franchise nowadays. Oh also the humans were easily the least visually impressive part of Doom Eternal and I can't understand why they decided to put more of them front and center. this is the review i was expecting even though i was hoping for better
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Oct 21, 2020 17:57
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 It’s cool that Id found a way to put us all in the game. I unironically love this dude.
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Oct 21, 2020 18:04
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MazelTovCocktail posted:
He's not even getting paid for this poo poo, he's just all in.
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Oct 21, 2020 18:05
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:For those who've played the DLC already, I'm curious if id's efforts to make the microwave beam relevant have elevated it to "good enough to swap between Heat Blast and Microwave Beam" or "necessary enough that it becomes your primary/only mod for the duration of the game" Only managed to beat the first level on nightmare so far but the heat blast is still #1 for me. I'm kind of biased because I tend to use the plasma rifle as my "main" weapon and heat blast is a much better general use mod than the microwave beam, but this DLC seems especially geared for it with shield enemies all over the place. The base game appeared to treat shield grunts as if they were at least a real enemy albeit a weak one, for the DLC they're thrown in all over the place as just another fodder enemy to be chainsawed. The mobs are large enough that being able to heat blast a huge clump of enemies to kill/stagger them all is still generally more useful than locking down and slowly killing a single target, though I haven't run into the spirit enemies yet so maybe it will be necessary for those specifically. I don't know what they are or what they do that requires the microwave beam, generally I'll use the lock-on rockets if there's a single dangerous enemy that needs to be dealt with immediately.
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Oct 21, 2020 18:12
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toasterwarrior posted:and also remember that possessed enemies take very little damage from the ballista
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Oct 21, 2020 18:17
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Barudak posted:He's not even getting paid for this poo poo, he's just all in. Honestly I’d be in favor of an SFM video on the process of him being picked as an intern being made canon.
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Oct 21, 2020 18:20
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Linguica posted:Is this, uh, mentioned anywhere while playing? codex
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Oct 21, 2020 19:10
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toasterwarrior posted:codex 
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Oct 21, 2020 19:21
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That might make a bit more sense why I was having particular trouble with them some times. It's also kind of dumb.
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Oct 21, 2020 19:21
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The new enemy kinda sucks rear end. Gee another enemy I can't damage until it randomly decides to allow me to. Cool.
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Oct 21, 2020 20:43
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GreatGreen posted:The new enemy kinda sucks rear end. Yeah I don’t like an enemy that absolutely requires a precision shot. Everything else with a weakness can still be attacked conventionally, it’s just harder, barring a blood punch or a chainsaw.
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Oct 21, 2020 20:46
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I dont like summoners only being damaged by the microwave beam. Sure other enemies have resistances to certain weapons but they still take damage from all sources.
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Oct 21, 2020 20:49
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I can't believe Doomguy was the demons all along. Bad Doomguy, that is. That's some impressive shoehorning of memes into a tripe-A videogame.
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Oct 21, 2020 21:42
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People have been musing about another Doomguy being a bad guy - usually the Doom (3) Marine as a Marauder for a while now, so... Also, you can Microwave Beam possessed demons to bring out the spirit faster
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Oct 21, 2020 22:19
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Vinylshadow posted:People have been musing about another Doomguy being a bad guy - usually the Doom (3) Marine as a Marauder for a while now, so... It really is too bad they couldn't make him a zombie to perfect the reference, but that probably wouldn't make for as impressive an antagonist.
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Oct 21, 2020 22:25
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Theres also a John zombie slayer skin. It could work.
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Still not finished, but putting empowered demons in the challenges is a lil' dickish. Although the challenges feel easier so far. e: also, I swear everytime I blow up the first gun on a mancubus, the one opposite from the side I hit with the grenade explodes. Is it just me? smug jeebus fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Oct 21, 2020 |
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Oct 21, 2020 22:43
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Also I noticed I got an Empowered Whiplash Spectre, which, uh, thank you for the outline?
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Oct 21, 2020 23:17
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oh god Whiplash spectres? what the gently caress man
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Oct 21, 2020 23:18
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guess what you can't use lock on rockets on them until you freeze or blood punch them into visibility can't remember if the flame belch also works
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Oct 21, 2020 23:24
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Empowered Buff Totem Possessed Spectre Marauder (with outlines disabled) 
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smug jeebus posted:e: also, I swear everytime I blow up the first gun on a mancubus, the one opposite from the side I hit with the grenade explodes. Is it just me? Yes! This has driven me crazy since release as well. Finished the DLC on UV and I'm a fan. Takes everything fun about the combat system and just does it...more. I get the complaints about enemies only being vulnerable to a specific thing, but to be honest I really like that so much of the new mechanics revolve around not letting you rely on the tricks that worked in the base game. It would be boring if it was just a few hours of more Master level encounters on new maps. Instead, I'm excited to go back on nightmare and figure out the best way to deal with the new stuff, and to see what the streamers and speed runners do with these encounters.
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Oct 21, 2020 23:30
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Hey so I accidentally bought a Bethesda key for the DLC but I have the game on Steam, is there any way to make that work? I'm at work right now so I can't test in my Bethesda launcher. Greenmangaming is refusing to refund me because "the key was revealed to me already." Alternatively, anyone want to buy a Bethesda key for the Doom Eternal Year One pass at 25 bucks instead of the normal price of 29.99?
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caldrax posted:Hey so I accidentally bought a Bethesda key for the DLC but I have the game on Steam, is there any way to make that work? I'm at work right now so I can't test in my Bethesda launcher. Greenmangaming is refusing to refund me because "the key was revealed to me already." Alternatively, anyone want to buy a Bethesda key for the Doom Eternal Year One pass at 25 bucks instead of the normal price of 29.99? the DLC is a standalone expansion so you should be able to register it, if you don't mind having the game split over two launchers no refunds is standard practice for key sites since there's usually no way for them to tell if you've used the key or for them to revoke it
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Oct 22, 2020 00:07
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I made a little fuss and they're giving me store credit, so I'll live with that... Eh.
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I always thought a lot of people complaining about Doom Eternal were being big babies about really dumb things and I still do but... man. Spirits were really not a good idea jesus christ. Take one of the main things people complain about in the game (mandated weapon weaknesses and useless weapon alt-fires) and make an enemy that is literally immune to everything but the worst alt-fire in the entire game.
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It's good, actually. It forces you to make different decisions about target priority. Do you try to burst down the possessed enemy to get it off the board, and risk having to do the ghost buster dance with all the other enemies breathing down your neck, or do you try to clear the room a bit first, even though that means kiting a souped up enemy that can't be staggered? It's the same Marauder mechanic on steroids. Proxy rockets and frag grenades can buy you a lot of space to zap the ghost, and you can also break off the microwave beam and then resume zapping it if you need to quickly reposition.
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Making the spirit vulnerable to other weapons but still require focused fire for a while to kill would achieve the exact same result without mandating that I use an awful weapon just long enough to kill it before immediately switching off it. I still have to decide "do I kill this possessed enemy with all these other enemies around knowing I'm going to have to then unload on the spirit before it moves, or do I deal with everything else first". Edit: It also requires a ton of cells to actually pop it so i've more than once run out of ammo trying to microwave it and have it possess someone while i'm frantically trying to chainsaw so I can try again. Glagha fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Oct 22, 2020 |
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There is a challenge on Map 3 where the spirit itself does not count towards the completion of the trial and so you get a doofy spirit with nowhere to go at the end and we kind of hung out and chilled before I blew them up. The Spirit mechanic is perfectly fine except for the final boss fight final phase where, when layered with all the other poo poo is not fun.
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the thing about spirits is most of the time i treat them like a marauder in a multi-heavy fight: leave em for last. focus down the big bois and learn to kite; even a possessed mancubus can be kept at bay long enough to take care of the other heavies before you can focus on them
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-Kills a possessed Baron after a harrowing fight -Another Baron spawns as I ready my plasma rifle - Microwave beam autotargets the Baron 
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Oct 22, 2020 03:02
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The fight that starts with a possessed imp is my favorite
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Own the basicest version of DoomE, trying to buy the year-one pass and I get a DUPLICATE ITEMS warning when I try to purchase for myself. I can just ignore this and pull the trigger, right?
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Mordja posted:Own the basicest version of DoomE, trying to buy the year-one pass and I get a DUPLICATE ITEMS warning when I try to purchase for myself. I can just ignore this and pull the trigger, right?
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OK, got Ancient gods, is there any way to install it without installing the full game then?
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Can't freeze the possessed hell baron running around the arena at 90mph. I think the devs got self conscious about how bad the microwave beam was and thought forcing you to use it would make you like it?
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yeah you know what i cant remember where i saw that the ballista does heavily reduced damage to possessed. i think it was in a previous interview with hugo, and i dont know if it carried through to the final release. regardless, using the ballista to dump on possessed demons is still tricky as poo poo because it's very likely that at the end of it, you may not have enough cells to lock the spirit down for the kill also tried my bronzeman nightmare run, did the first mission perfectly until the double marauder part and got stuck on a zombie and got instakilled. i think im going to loosen up my rules for this dlc; considering that i still think that most of the challenge from marauders is when they're doing janky rear end bullshit like ignoring ssg flinches and dashing across stupidly long distances to shotgun me, these are clearly gimmick fights and i shouldnt treat them like dmc perfectionist combat exercises. it's not like i haven't cheesed some fights or missions in dmc due to broken poo poo anyway. also doesnt help that these missions feel waaaay longer than the vanilla campaign missions for some reason
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