Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us $3,400 per month for bandwidth bills alone, and since we don't believe in shoving popup ads to our registered users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
«289 »
  • Post
  • Reply
Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This user's endless pedantry is kept grey.

Key words: nutrition, philosophy, regulatory science, law, shallow realpolitik, fake cheese, game design fanfiction.

I'm looking forward to the extra-hard ISO-Compliant Professional mode, where health and safety has gone through each area in advance and corrected problems. "You really can't store rat poison in a food preparation area." "These long lines of waist-high stacks of equipment are a fire evacuation hazard." "This lighting rig needs a monitoring system and at least two failsafes."

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

TE!
Nov 25, 2003


I LOVE THE LITTLE BOYS OF CATHOLIC!! LOLZ!


So like.....are there only 2 levels?

DreamShipWrecked
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better


Man some of these contracts are very hard. I wonder if the creators didn't just Rambo their way through and fiber wire a random dude on the top floor

TE! posted:

So like.....are there only 2 levels?

Three if you count the tutorial.

Moartoast
Jan 16, 2011

Another unfunny, threadshitting knob-end.

Each "episode", as far as I know, is just one big level. This first batch is pretty much the only thing that will be a batch, since they threw in the training stuff from beta.

I fixed my performance, turns out Nvidia actually fixed their garbage drivers and now they're necessary for it to run decently on a midrange system. DX12 runs super great on very high settings but has a real issue with hitching every minute or two and is really prone to crashing and load times seem worse too for some reason??? DX11 is acceptable for now with LODs turned down, but here's hoping DX12 mode gets patched so I can work those extra FX chip cores and feel like I have an actually decent CPU.

I like the idea of the unlock progression but its execution leaves something to be desired. I like naturally learning the level and doing crazy stuff of my own volition, so I don't look at the feats or opportunities, but then I kinda have to, because unlocking even more freedom of choice requires doing those challenges. There's no real reason to care about score right now outside of largely-meaningless leaderboards, so i feel like they could have used score as an unlock system and just given extra for completed challenges.

I also miss newspapers and notoriety from BM, because as janky as those were, they were still a really neat way to feel like there was actual post-mission reactivity to your actions outside of arbitrary videogame-rear end scoring.

But hey, I exited my first true assassination by dressing as a vampire magician to go incognito after blowing my cover and killed myself by standing in a puddle of water while going "I wonder why this prompt lets me expose this wire here", so this game's still pretty good so far.

Bouncing quarters off of dudes' booties to interrupt scripted conversations might be my new favourite thing to do, next to finding any excuse to use the duck.

Booty Pageant
Apr 20, 2012


Discendo Vox posted:

I'm looking forward to the extra-hard ISO-Compliant Professional mode, where health and safety has gone through each area in advance and corrected problems. "You really can't store rat poison in a food preparation area." "These long lines of waist-high stacks of equipment are a fire evacuation hazard." "This lighting rig needs a monitoring system and at least two failsafes."

maybe then i can actually play it properly than run around trying to complete as many objectives and little dumb things for extra points as possible in one go

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Kanye West - Touch the Sky


TE! posted:

So like.....are there only 2 levels?

Yeah, the idea is to release levels monthly. Weird model but $15 isn't too much of an investment for Hitman: Ground Zeroes.

Booty Pageant
Apr 20, 2012


Alain Post posted:

Yeah, the idea is to release levels monthly. Weird model but $15 isn't too much of an investment for Hitman: Ground Zeroes.
remake hitman 2 but load it with a bunch of nuclear proliferation conspiracy theory dialogue

TheMostFrench
Jul 12, 2009

Stop for me, it's the claw!



Alain Post posted:

Yeah, the idea is to release levels monthly. Weird model but $15 isn't too much of an investment for Hitman: Ground Zeroes.

This is a good way to put it since a lot of people payed over $30 for GZ. I guess there isn't quite as much faith in Hitman.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This user's endless pedantry is kept grey.

Key words: nutrition, philosophy, regulatory science, law, shallow realpolitik, fake cheese, game design fanfiction.

Word is there's a crazy outfit that's basically challenge mode hidden somewhere in the map. It's presumably unlockable for contracts mode, too.

edit: ugh, like half the conversation on the hitman forum is that there isn't enough blood.

Booty Pageant
Apr 20, 2012


Discendo Vox posted:

Word is there's a crazy outfit that's basically challenge mode hidden somewhere in the map. It's presumably unlockable for contracts mode, too.

edit: ugh, like half the conversation on the hitman forum is that there isn't enough blood.

mr norfolk goes to paris

e:
real talk i cant seem to get the shoot iago man on stage and the mr reaper challenge even though i did what was required?????

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011



I've now finished every single Assassination Challenge on the two Training missions, doing a Silent Assassin, Suit only run of the Final Test was surprisingly easy once I realized you could just climb up a pipe and go through a window and be in Jasper Knight's office, bypassing the entire base.

Puella
Oct 31, 2013

The meaning of life is The Sims.

Accordion Man posted:

I'm still on the tutorial mission on the yacht and having fun but I think ran into a bug. There's this dipshit with a cellphone in the men's bathroom that never leaves, even when I have the target's guest poisoned and throwing up in there. It feels buggy because cellphone guy just keeps standing behind the dude vomiting. I want the guest's disguise so I can complete the challenge. Anyone else having this problem?

Yeah. It's pretty hilarious. I figured there was a way to kick his rear end and hide his body, but there's no container to dump it in.

Judge Tesla posted:

I've now finished every single Assassination Challenge on the two Training missions, doing a Silent Assassin, Suit only run of the Final Test was surprisingly easy once I realized you could just climb up a pipe and go through a window and be in Jasper Knight's office, bypassing the entire base.

I figure that might be the "cheat" Burnwood is talking about?

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Kanye West - Touch the Sky


Do I still need a disguise to get to the second floor in Paris if I have the IAGO invitation? Seems weird that I can't just show that to someone.

Booty Pageant
Apr 20, 2012


Alain Post posted:

Do I still need a disguise to get to the second floor in Paris if I have the IAGO invitation? Seems weird that I can't just show that to someone.

theres literally a thing that rewards you for showing it, its just that you gotta go around the back of the party area and door with two guards you show the invitation, then you gotta show it again before the stairs just cause. and before you get to the third floor that way you get frisked, and if you have a gun, you immediately become hostile. i mean i guess the first level of contracts had guards that would do that too so not all is bad right???

astr0man
Feb 21, 2007

hollyeo deuroga


Nap Ghost

Alain Post posted:

Do I still need a disguise to get to the second floor in Paris if I have the IAGO invitation? Seems weird that I can't just show that to someone.

You don't need a disguise. If you go outside the bar/lounge area there's another side entrance near the back with guards who check for the invitation

Erika
Feb 6, 2013



Man, I'm not sure why they didn't bring back weapon customization and the sniper briefcase, I miss the sick feeling from blood money of fixing the sniper rifle together while by a window in a dark room.

Other than that though, the game is great, the Paris level is huge and very detailed.

abagofcheetos
Oct 29, 2003

jim kelly's newer, not-so-dead kid

This game is really cool. I actually love the release model they are trying out, and if Street Fighter V was smart they would have done something similar (should have released like a "tournament edition" for $30, then when they added story mode release it as a $30 DLC).

I also really like the opportunities system. I've only played one other Hitman game, and that was like 10 years ago, so the game giving me a "guided tour" so to speak of the levels is a nice feature. Usually I'm pretty boring with sandboxy games and just play to complete the objectives, but I actually want to keep playing the levels to try out new ideas and discover new things.

Good job Square, the amount of games I have and will be buying of yours is starting to remind me of the late 90's early 00's

Moartoast
Jan 16, 2011

Another unfunny, threadshitting knob-end.

Discendo Vox posted:

Word is there's a crazy outfit that's basically challenge mode hidden somewhere in the map. It's presumably unlockable for contracts mode, too.

I think I accidentally found this while desperately running away from my botched first assassination, since the vampire magician doesn't seem like they'd be able to get around much. Still let me get away scot-free by getting spotted trespassing and letting them escort me out of the building.

My first genuine hit ended with stealing a helicopter as a vampire magician, so this game has something going for it, and thankfully seems to be avoiding the self-serious gore fetishism that the creepier fans want so bad. There's already some pretty brutal poo poo with the animations and sound design, they just cooled it on the overdone blood textures from Absolution and went for a more understated look.

It sucks that peeps are weird creepers about this stuff, because I totally get why wacky video game violence and gore can be fun, I've just gradually learned that people who talk about or focus on it at length tend to be colossal creeps who don't know when to stop creepin'.

Quote-Unquote
Oct 21, 2002



And the servers are down again.

Why is a single player only game required to be always online? I got kicked out of a mission and I'm not allowed to load my save game while the server is down.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010





Quote-Unquote posted:

And the servers are down again.

Why is a single player only game required to be always online? I got kicked out of a mission and I'm not allowed to load my save game while the server is down.

This just happened to me too. What a joke.

Booty Pageant
Apr 20, 2012


io interactive is a shell of what it was desperately trying to figure out its identity while digging through the liquor cabinet its old owners left behind

good thing i finished my vampire magician run. they really gotta fix the ai being able to see through walls with 360 degree vision, i bonked a dude with a fire extinguisher from behind but he still saw that, and a guard told me to get out from the bidding room while i was turning some taps in the bathroom

Moartoast
Jan 16, 2011

Another unfunny, threadshitting knob-end.

s0m3 guy posted:

io interactive is a shell of what it was desperately trying to figure out its identity while digging through the liquor cabinet its old owners left behind

good thing i finished my vampire magician run. they really gotta fix the ai being able to see through walls with 360 degree vision, i bonked a dude with a fire extinguisher from behind but he still saw that, and a guard told me to get out from the bidding room while i was turning some taps in the bathroom

Here's the secret: IOI has never known what the gently caress they're doing, have mostly produced poo poo, and the good poo poo they made was largely just small moments of clarity in a sea of garbage. Blood Money was the closest thing to being consistently decent, and it still had a shitload of massive problems, not the least of which being introducing the game with an ugly linear level about Danish people wearing virtual blackface.

Also, the melee thing seems intentional. It's pretty hokey, but I guess the idea is that, if you don't want them to compromise your disguise, you have to risk subduing them. Not graceful design, but it's kinda whatever. The other thing seems like a delayed AI trigger or something, which does happen way more often than it ought to, and in general the dialogue system seems pretty borked so idk.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008


Supplanter posted:

I loved assembling that sniper rifle, so I went through each stage looking for a practical reason to use it. The only stage I found where you can use the sniper rifle to get silent assassin and it isn't more difficult than fiber wire or silenced pistol is House of Cards. From the German guy's apartment you can snipe the person who inspects the package through his window. You may or may not also be able to snipe the person you meet when you drop off the package (Mohammad Bin Faisal Al-Khalifa according to Hitman wiki!), I always fiber wired him. I think you had to save the sniping for last, or it would screw up the trade.

You could snipe the Shiek from the balcony looking down on the rear outside area. He would walk out here to take a phone call at some point. And I think the seller could also be shot in his hotel room same as the inspector.

It was hard to get silent assassin on most others with the sniper rifle though. It was easy to use for no witnesses but generally always left the body being detected.

Blood Money was so good in letting you try out loads of different playstyles. I got Absolution recently in the sales forgetting how it was received and it has been a disappointment. The scoring system seems to penalise you for trying styles besides Silent Assassin.
It has got me back into Blood Money again. I just completed the game trying a much more violent play through than I would usually. Finally made use of the silent M4 and completed a series of silent blood baths.

Marenghi fucked around with this message at Mar 12, 2016 around 15:22

Gooses and Geeses
Jan 1, 2005

OH GOD WHY DIDN'T I LISTEN?

Is there no way to share my contracts with my friends?

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.






Jake Snake posted:

Most of my targets could have prevented their deaths if they just learned to lock the bathroom door.

Hitman: the story of one man and his enduring inability to understand bathroom etiquette.

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011



So I just finished the first Sarjeevo Six mission where I had to kill the Security Chief in the Paris mission, it's almost comically easy to get silent assassin if you are willing to wait around for a while for the guy to walk from the top of the building down to the security room in the basement kitchen area.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

The video arcade made me what I am today!


Moartoast posted:

introducing the game with an ugly linear level about Danish people wearing virtual blackface.

Got to check ya whitebreeeead.

Holy poo poo was that embarrassing. I guess that's why they had to put the disclaimer before this game that the team is "made up of various people of different cultural, national and ethnical backgrounds", because you wouldn't want people thinking they're racist or something.

Swartz
Jul 28, 2005

by FactsAreUseless


Has anyone found a use for the sedative unlock yet? I don't see how it could be of much use yet.

Also does anyone know where the winch is for the chandelier in the top floor auction room? I see winches all over the floor but I don't know which one is the correct one.

Erika
Feb 6, 2013



Moartoast posted:

It sucks that peeps are weird creepers about this stuff, because I totally get why wacky video game violence and gore can be fun, I've just gradually learned that people who talk about or focus on it at length tend to be colossal creeps who don't know when to stop creepin'.

I don't know, gore in video games ultimately acts as a feedback mechanism to show that you're doing damage. I don't think they get their dicks hard on it, they just want more visual feedback.

pnutz
Jan 5, 2015


Marenghi posted:

You could snipe the Shiek from the balcony looking down on the rear outside area. He would walk out here to take a phone call at some point. And I think the seller could also be shot in his hotel room same as the inspector.

It was hard to get silent assassin on most others with the sniper rifle though. It was easy to use for no witnesses but generally always left the body being detected.

Blood Money was so good in letting you try out loads of different playstyles. I got Absolution recently in the sales forgetting how it was received and it has been a disappointment. The scoring system seems to penalise you for trying styles besides Silent Assassin.
It has got me back into Blood Money again. I just completed the game trying a much more violent play through than I would usually. Finally made use of the silent M4 and completed a series of silent blood baths.

the problem with the inspector was that someone eventually came into that room to check up on him, so you had to scramble to the escape point before you got rumbled. This even happened if you pulled the fire alarm, someone would eventually walk in wondering why he wasn't running out with the rest of them

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

The video arcade made me what I am today!


Is there a limited timeframe for meeting Dahlia as Helmut? Because I grabbed the disguise and did the runway walk, but after going upstairs Dahlia just does her rounds and ignores me completely. I wound up just going out to the lighting rig to drop it on Viktor, choked out Dahlia's personal guard as she was leaving the waiting room, and then when Dahlia came back alone strangled her. In all it was messy and I killed enough non-targets to give me a final score of 0.

Count Freebasie
Jan 12, 2006



King Vidiot posted:

That sounds pretty handy with the Sheikh there, I grabbed the Helmut disguise and while it's a free pass to the whole map I can't get an "in" with Dahlia, she just kinda wanders around to some set locations and doesn't offer me any openings to take her out.

If you trail Helmut into that outside area, he will call Dahlia to arrange a meeting (I think it's the second phone call he makes). If you kill/incapacitate him, you need to pick up his phone and call her back with it to get details on the actual meeting location. After doing a run on the catwalk, you'll be summoned to a private room with her upstairs where she will explain Helmut's mission to you. I garroted her and dumped her in the closet in that room after she was done talking to me and was getting up to leave. I don't remember if she led me into the adjacent room from the big meeting room, but I may have gone in first and then she followed me. Afterwards, I just walked out and left and then a few minutes later the loving servers kicked me, so I don't know if I even got the accomplishment.

Going to run some errands, take the weekend car out for a spin, pick up a six-pack, and then claim the TV as mine for the rest of the day/evening while I drink beer, kill people, and hope that the servers don't poo poo the bed on me while I'm trying to accomplish those goals.

Count Freebasie fucked around with this message at Mar 12, 2016 around 17:19

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012



King Vidiot posted:

Got to check ya whitebreeeead.

Yeah that was offensive, I prefer whole grain bread myself.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

The video arcade made me what I am today!


Count Freebasie posted:

If you trail Helmut into that outside area, he will call Dahlia to arrange a meeting (I think it's the second phone call he makes). If you kill/incapacitate him, you need to pick up his phone and call her back with it to get details on the actual meeting location. After doing a run on the catwalk, you'll be summoned to a private room with her upstairs where she will explain Helmut's mission to you. I garroted her and dumped her in the closet in that room after she was done talking to me and was getting up to leave. I don't remember if she led me into the adjacent room from the big meeting room, but I may have gone in first and then she followed me. Afterwards, I just walked out and left and then a few minutes later the loving servers kicked me, so I don't know if I even got the accomplishment.

Going to run some errands, take the weekend car out for a spin, pick up a six-pack, and then claim the TV as mine for the rest of the day/evening while I drink beer, kill people, and hope that the servers don't poo poo the bed on me while I'm trying to accomplish those goals.

Ah okay. On a previous save I called Dahlia but then I walked the catwalk too late and Viktor was already saying the closing remarks. Then on my latest run I did the catwalk properly but forgot to call Dahlia beforehand. I didn't know the phonecall mattered.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010





The load times in this game

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

Respect the power of the wind

My trip report:

Wanted to play the hell out of the prologue missions (again) to get all the achievements and whatnot. I really appreciated the escalation contracts, which forced me to attack the maps in a completely different way. Very refreshing! Logged about five hours in the prologue alone. Got everything there, so I went to load the Paris level (on DX11)…and the game crashed. Changed all my graphics settings to low…game still crashes. Waited a day to try again…game still crashes, and did a number to Windows, too. Had to reset my fairly high-end PC.

It's a really good game. Too bad about all the technical problems, though. However, technical problems can be fixed—eventually. I'm just happy the core game experience is very solid, and very fun. Ain't nothing would be able to fix that if they had hosed that up, which I'm glad that they haven't.

Steve2911
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.


Ugh I keep giving up and starting Paris over because I don't feel like it's going well enough. I might have to turn on opportunity HUD guiding just so I can at least beat it half decently.

e: Also I don't really think this map is that much bigger or more complicated than anything in Blood Money. Not to the extent that there should be half as many of them.

Steve2911 fucked around with this message at Mar 12, 2016 around 17:50

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011



Doing a Suit only run of Paris is going to be a harrowing experience, it may very well end up with me going guns blazing when I inevitably get caught but its a risk I am willing to take.

brap
Aug 23, 2004



Grimey Drawer

Any experiences of technical jankiness on the PS4 version?

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Your next post will be "im gay"


Illegal Hen

fleshweasel posted:

Any experiences of technical jankiness on the PS4 version?

thumbnails for some menu images take a while to load in for some reason and the load times are atrocious but I haven't noticed any other problems.

The Paris assassination was really fun but I'm going to wait until some kind of patch comes out to fix the loading before I try getting level 20 mastery on it, because its ridiculous.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply
«289 »