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For those asking for user contracts to try out, you're in luck (if you're on PC)! I made this one after the ET and Pro mode got me thinking: The Buddy System (Hokkaido): 1-10-0802305-02 Fiber wire three guards who are always with a partner. Also since Landslide came out I've made a bunch of contracts for it just messing around with stuff: Sapienza's Lovely In The Fall (Landslide): 1-04-6538264-02 Suit-only fall accidents with targets in mostly opportune locations. The Lorenzini Liquidation (Landslide): 1-04-0348201-02 Suit-only assault rifle kill of Abiatti and a number of other seemingly public targets. The Fire Down Below (Landslide): 1-04-4132721-02 Esoteric plate-juggling contract built around timing all the kills as tightly as possible. And a speed challenge which is very silly: Welcome To Warp Zone! (Landslide): 1-04-9032646-02 Blow up the plumbers and escape as fast as humanly possible.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2017 20:59 |
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2024 22:15 |
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If you don't care about it being kind of scummy, poison never kills anyone instantly and it's the injection that gets you spotted. Hover a finger over your menu key/button and the instant you inject check to see if you get Crime Noticed or other indications that you were spotted; if you see one, immediately go to menu and restart. Won't help if you already got one target, but for this ET the male target is the one that will get you spotted so the female should be easy as long as you watch for the patrolling guard and the people in the bathroom. If you get wallhacked I think it's entirely fair to restart; happened to me on The Blackmailer and since he hadn't died yet I could just try again and lure him into a bathroom the next time. In general, though not for this specific ET, knocking out the target in an area nobody goes to and doing something like a breaching charge or a charge+extinguisher is better since you can set if off right before you leave the level and will retain the ability to restart until you actually commit to the objectives. The Warlord went a lot smoother by setting her up in the bathroom with a fire extinguisher accident and then using the other breaching charge on the safe; once you're sure you've got a clear shot and the evidence is erased, press the button and complete both objectives and make for the exit.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2017 21:27 |
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Samopsa posted:Just press escape and turn off wifi and you can restart the mission!
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2017 21:33 |
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Jay Rust posted:So if you poison a person without being seen, but someone finds their body, does that count against you or not? I'm never clear on these things. You can get a Noticed Kill if someone sees you inject a person with lethal poison through a syringe though, but you'll also be spotted and probably in combat so you'll have other problems if someone sees you inject. You can be spotted poisoning someone's food/drink with a vial if you're not in the appropriate disguise but once you've actually poisoned the food/drink safely the kill once someone consumes the poison is completely safe (except on Professional where loitering near a poisoning victim will get the guards on you super fast, so book it). EDIT: Note that Sedative Poison does count against you, which is why Sedative Poison is basically useless because it will just ruin your No Bodies Found score and someone will wake the person up immediately. Pretty much its sole use is knocking out Padre Francesco on World of Tomorrow user contracts so you can come back and kill him in the basement at your leisure. Emetic Poison follows the same rules as lethal but if you're not spotted doing it nobody will become suspicious of you tailing a sick person into a bathroom. Nakar fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Feb 24, 2017 |
# ¿ Feb 24, 2017 21:38 |
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Mondian posted:Tried out the quick ones so far, nice! Is that plumber one just dumb luck though? The obvious answer seemingly results in bodies found at random, despite nobody actually going down there.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2017 03:05 |
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Pilchenstein posted:How many attempts did it take you to get 2:14 on The Buddy System? I feel like I'm missing a trick since it's a coin flip as to which guard takes the bait of my distraction and two of the targets have their backs to a wall so you can't get them if their partner goes. EDIT: Also the route I used to make the contract can be done Suit Only. It's not necessary however. Nakar fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Feb 25, 2017 |
# ¿ Feb 25, 2017 04:29 |
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Syringes in general seem prone to the x-ray bug in the same but opposite sense thrown objects don't. The action is way louder and way more visible at a distance than it appears or reasonably should be, as opposed to like subdual which in many cases is much quieter and harder to see than grabbing a person from behind and choking them out on the ground ought to appear. Unfortunately due to the way the syringes work there's not really a good workaround for it, and the door glitch that affects subdues and fiber wire doesn't really apply very well so you can't wait on it or anything. The syringes are also bugged in that NPCs react to them as if you dropped something so I think they're noisier than they're intended to be due to a glitch or something.Mondian posted:e: That one was quick, I spent an embarrassing amount of time on the Lorenzi Liquidation to no avail though. Am I missing some way to get the rifle from the safehouse to the other side of the map? Because I feel like the time gap I've got is about as much as it takes to ferry it across in a guard outfit and double back for the suit again. Here's a SO/SA of my contract The Buddy System, since the fastest route you guys figured out was as a Surgeon. Morgue start isn't vastly slower. Also a run of somebody else's sniper contract in the underused night Marrakesh mission. It's technically SO/SA but there's really no reason to even use disguises for it.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2017 09:33 |
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Mondian posted:Yeah I tried that a couple of ways and watched the rifle make its way to the bathroom behind the stage so I gave up. Guess I should have kept trying. I'll give it another shot sometime.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2017 10:01 |
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The virus has to be shot EXACTLY dead on which is hard to explain because you can actually get hit markers when firing the pistol at it despite not actually hitting it or the hazmat scientists inside. If it's any help, I've noticed that the guys who are YouTube superstars don't use Steady Aim on the Silverballer even though they could. It might give you a degree of generous auto-aim or something if you're not trying to pinpoint shoot. It may also just be doing runs enough to know exactly where to shoot from. Either way, everyone I've seen do it consistently has done it from the shotgun guard ledge; I've also accomplished it from the platform where the dongle-operable laptop is. I've never successfully shot the virus at any lower angle no matter how clear a shot I appeared to have.Pilchenstein posted:I finally managed to post a Silent Assassin run of less than 3 minutes on every pro level and what's weird is, only Hokkaido was slower than normal - Paris was exactly the same and the other four maps were faster on pro.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2017 19:52 |
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Colorado contracts are hard to make interesting or fun (and Aim For Accidents was already made, objectively the best Colorado contract) but I'm trying. How'd You Even Get In Here? (Colorado): 1-09-7100437-02 Blow up targets in the farmhouse and barn as the cook, who has access to neither area.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2017 23:43 |
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double nine posted:do propane tanks count as explosive devices?
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2017 01:18 |
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The Pro unlocks are dumb prestige poo poo, which is how it should be. Real useful items should not be locked into the mode where everything needs to be in play. EDIT: Some new contracts that I'm mad about because the custom contracts are bugged but gently caress it. Running A Tight Ship (Paris): 1-02-1383968-02 Speed contract to fiber wire three auction staff on the top floor. Two are easy, the last not so much. Explosive Communion (Landslide): 1-04-9358110-02 Speed contract to kill the priest and a woman in the Sanguine shop. THE CONTRACT IS BUGGED; poisoning her wine glass doesn't work because this game is a buggy piece of poo poo and doesn't recognize her death as poison despite saying Poison Kill afterward. If they fix it it'll work but for now it requires a syringe. This Party Sucks (A House Built On Sand): 1-07-6168839-02 Drown a bunch of people at Kong's party. A test of map knowledge and game mechanics but there's still a lot of speed improvements possible I suspect. Nakar fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Feb 27, 2017 |
# ¿ Feb 26, 2017 22:21 |
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Brofessor Slayton posted:Did anyone else Emetic the ET dude and watch him run off to find a bin to throw up in... which was literally next to the toilet in the restroom? The problem with the vomit logic is it doesn't always work right at a certain distance. I can consistently reroute a person in the Marrakesh shisha den to one of the two toilets if both are in use by killing whoever is already there, but I suspect that only works correctly because both toilets are very close and there is no bin in one of them. Too many bins fucks up the pathfinding logic in some fashion I haven't puzzled out. Pilchenstein posted:Just to be picky, this is technically incorrect. It's true that discovered bodies of people killed by poison don't count against your rating, but poisonings don't count as accidents, so any challenge or contract requiring an accident kill can't be completed by poisoning. Also, if you've set up a poisoning and are just waiting for it to happen before you leave, be aware that the body counts as spotted until you see the words "Unnoticed Kill" come up in the top right and leaving the level before that happens won't give you Silent Assassin rating. (The same is true of explosion accidents, except that the magic words you need to see then are "Accident Kill") There is only one consistent way I've found to always get safe, stealthy Explosive Device kills that always register and to avoid the Body Found glitch, but it's slow and stupid so doing a FE drive-by is still the best method to explode things. where the red fern gropes posted:novikov is very happy with his codename of cobra
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2017 19:16 |
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The issue with Colorado mastery is too many challenges focus on Sean Rose. Also the lack of verticality. It's an amazing map for poison challenges though. Lots of water bottles, two sets of pills and a lethal syringe on map. Lobok posted:Thought I had the Himmapan Horror axe challenge all tied up but something about the Body Found logic just didn't work. I laid out all my axe kills in a neat line in the linen room and then lured in one of the staff. With him and several guards coming in the room and passing through all bodies should have been found to give me the challenge (and I was wearing the right outfit the entire mission) but it never registered. I eventually got it by arranging things so that each victim's body was spotted by the next victim but i don't know why my first method didn't work.
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2017 21:31 |
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Alright one more, this turned out a bit better than I anticipated: The Ekbom Insurrection (Marrakesh): 1-06-2433136-02 Kill a guard in the consulate courtyard in your suit, then an officer in the basement as the guard, then the consul upstairs as the officer. The kills are easy, but avoiding Body Found is going to require either detours, accidents, subduals, or a gutsy route and raw speed.
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2017 00:52 |
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Pilchenstein posted:Doing this quickly was annoying as gently caress. The fastest way I could do it involved throwing breaching charges and just gently caress those things and the lovely loving physics they bounced all over the place in on. That said, the contract can be completed pretty fast with the default loadout (ICA19, Fiber Wire, Coins). The only distraction needed is your own imagination... and a car... and a very versatile gun. You can also grab the keycard or just go up the middle stairs and come down the back stairs and blow the doors open with the propane tank sitting there. My 2:27 run did the latter and the recorded run is 2:28 so account for my general lack of dexterity and it's probably about the same. You've both still handily beaten any par time I could set so no reason to keep running it forever as it's not like anyone else is going to beat your times unless I end up getting a contract featured which I don't even know how they do that. But bear in mind I try not to make things too fiddly, other than This Party Sucks which is a little fiddly but in a way that can work in your favor. Insane breaching charge distraction throws are solely there for the sake of bleeding edge times and who gives a poo poo about that on a user contract. Mondian posted:Also, Tight Ship is a good contract, but Nakar's route is undeniably the best so nothing to do there except run it endlessly hoping to shave off a few seconds. I'll try coming up with a better Paris contract eventually. Would be curious how to require the Signature Suit to force a non-Auction/Basement/Tech start on that map though.
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2017 23:35 |
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Here's another but you will need to have completed Himmapan Horror for the second Lethal Syringe: Double-Crossed (Bangkok): 1-08-6717627-02 Riverwalk contract requiring the poisoning of two targets as Ken Morgan's bodyguard. There is a nasty surprise baked into the contract that anyone serious about running it will probably never run into. Mondian posted:e: Wait, you had the wire, phone, and baton? When did you have time to run to a stash during that run? I ended up grabbing the bust while I waited for the 2nd target to path into the attic to speed up the guard takedown
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2017 01:23 |
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Last one for a while. Cleanup Quadrifecta (Bangkok): 1-08-6721056-02 Kill the four Hotel Staff cleaning the room on the floor with the security room. Since three different large weapons are required, only one can be smuggled in. Just how loud is an unsuppressed shotgun? You might be surprised.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2017 02:46 |
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Mondian posted:Is the nasty surprise all the bullshit x-ray vision zones in front of the hotel? The surprise is that an NPC will eventually find Ken Morgan's bodyguard even though he appears to be in a completely unnoticed spot, so the mission is on a clock of about 3 minutes before that guy paths through and/or Ken Morgan comes back. Like I said, something you're almost certainly not going to ever have an issue with because I doubt you'd take that long.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2017 12:02 |
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Mondian posted:I really liked this one, but it was frustrating to test out permutations, because people climbing stairs from lower elevations have hosed up x-ray vision and that one piece of poo poo standing next to the bar can see through the shed walls. Anyway, curious if this is how you set it up. Similar, but slower in a few areas. Here's one I'm hoping you might find a way to optimize as a certain NPC is giving me trouble: We're Extremely Bad Bodyguards, Honestly (A House Built On Sand): 1-07-9997675-02 Garrote a trio of folks who are being closely monitored by bodyguards. Easy and short, I'm just trying to come up with more Marrakesh stuff.
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2017 02:59 |
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MeatwadIsGod posted:Playing Bangkok in the white yukata is hilarious because everyone bows at you The reactions to Santa are definitely still the best, followed by the Requiem Suit and the Winter Suit.
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# ¿ Mar 3, 2017 05:34 |
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where the red fern gropes posted:santa suit dialogue is great, as is "ps4 preorder suit". how does winter suit react? i think i have... two more SAs to get? i sorta lost track The joke disguises also have a lot of dialogue on maps where the disguises aren't hostile to everyone. The Vampire Magician and Plague Doctor are especially funny in public places. In addition, the description of 47 when someone reports him to a guard or a guard calls in to command are often hilarious if you were seen in a joke costume. There's a good 4-5 different lines regarding how the person won't believe them but the culprit is some kind of vampire or magician or something.
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# ¿ Mar 3, 2017 05:59 |
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Pilchenstein posted:I assume it's this route:
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# ¿ Mar 3, 2017 13:54 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uqNEY3lDbM It won't last, but I got #4 on a Featured Contract! Best I've ever done. It helps that most people don't know about the ICA Space Program thing; also based on this I've discovered that the impact of falling bodies against surfaces does, in fact, generate sound... unless perhaps it was the coins ricocheting off the wall at five hundred miles per hour.
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# ¿ Mar 4, 2017 07:47 |
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You have to do the steps in order: Disguise as the headmaster, look at the paintings, kill Zaydan as the headmaster. You don't have to stay the headmaster, just have changed into his disguise once. You need to also be him when Zaydan dies. You can KO the headmaster, box him, take his clothes, switch back, knock out Zaydan and drop an explosive on him, go back and change to the headmaster, then detonate. You can also look at the paintings, leave and poison his food, then swap back. All the game checks is your disguise when he dies.
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# ¿ Mar 4, 2017 20:17 |
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WindyMan posted:https://youtu.be/9YRWT5u7hNg
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2017 19:26 |
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The fastest I can think of would be a janitor start, but that's not SASO. And the garage start isn't available on Pro. Poisoning Zaydan is convenient but has to be timed right or he won't eat until about 7:30, so you need to wake the waiter right away. Even then I'm sure the super speed runners know a SA method for Zaydan that's faster. I'm thinking it's the code word and intercept him en route to the tunnel after extinguisher bombing Strandberg. edit: An explosion would be more likely to trigger an alarm if you threw it into the consulate doorway and detonated. You need to panic enough people and the guard shed is empty.
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2017 21:43 |
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MeatwadIsGod posted:Is the Bangkok challenge where you have to kill Ken Morgan in the basement broken on Professional? He tells his bodyguard to wait outside, but then the bodyguard comes right back in after a couple seconds.
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2017 05:14 |
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I don't know what possessed me to do it, but I've finished doing runs of all Normal missions with SA/SO, no loadout, default starting location, and no Instinct. I also did Paris Professional with the same restrictions but might switch to default loadout for the other Pro missions because they're not terribly much fun (or different) without at least a silenced pistol for utility. Might bend the rules in general to do more interesting things like Accidents Only w/ Sniper Rifle on Pro Colorado or somesuch. Also the March content schedule is out. Escalations in Marrakesh and Bangkok but only one Elusive Target this month, in Colorado. Still looking for another Marrakesh ET myself but we do know one is coming for A House Built On Sand (supposedly a clown, of all things, according to a developer interview). Won't be coming this month though, apparently. And more Featured Contracts; the last batch was pretty good. EDIT: And two more contracts made around the same basic concept, plus a silly speed contract. The Soders Exploder...s (Hokkaido): 1-10-1899705-02 Blow up three surgeons with an accident. Finding an accidental explosive on Hokkaido is just the first step. Nick Laurent Is Dead (Hokkaido): 1-10-7431091-02 Inspired by The McVeigh Mishap, kill the Chief Surgeon with a falling object. How Hot Is That Water? (Hokkaido): 1-10-4118971-02 Speedy sharpshooter's contract. All I'll say is that I have personally verified that SA is possible. Nakar fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Mar 6, 2017 |
# ¿ Mar 6, 2017 21:10 |
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For Chameleon a good way to cheese it is just to see if there's an NPC wearing an outfit you've never seen before, save, knock them out or kill them, change into their outfit (as long as you don't get immediately gunned down), and reload. You don't need to do Chameleon in a single run or even on a single mission; the game remembers if you've changed into an outfit before. Of course, that won't get special costumes that are only found hidden in the map, but it should cut down on situations where you're pretty sure you have every disguise but have never actually turned into a chef before or something. Also, your own suit counts for Chameleon, so at least once in every level make sure you change back into it (changing into a disguise, changing back, and then changing into the same disguise again should work). EDIT: Also, and this is important, undercover starts don't count for Chameleon. If you've unlocked the Palace Staff disguise on Paris but never actually took a Palace Staff disguise from someone you'll think you've ticked off that costume but you haven't. The game is tracking actually changing into a disguise on a person or the floor, which is why your own suit has to be manually changed into. It's annoying that it isn't tracked, but I kind of understand the logic: They don't want you seeing certain disguise names as they might spoil things. It's StalaCtite! Remember: C for CRUSHED (Sapienza): 1-03-6445612-02 Drop stalactites on four Ether employees. Questionable Catering (Marrakesh): 1-06-4820382-02 Kill three targets with Consumed Poison as a Food Vendor. There are only two vials on the map, so you'll need to bring one. The routing is the trick here. Nakar fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Mar 10, 2017 |
# ¿ Mar 10, 2017 17:07 |
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HelixFox posted:Eehhhh, they could easily show a spoilery disguise as "?????" until you find it.
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2017 18:12 |
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You can rush past. They'll warn you but if you exit immediately you shouldn't get caught. As to the route to avoid cameras, there are only three or four along this route even on Pro; just avoid the lobby and go upstairs via the restaurant entrance and stairs instead and cross the roof. The only new cameras of consequence are the two in the lobby and one on the roof in an area you have no reason to go to anyway. The others are there even on Normal, and are easily avoided or destroyed. The ones to look out for are just above the unlocked door to the roof, which you can dodge easily, around the corner on the other side where the two roadies are sleeping, on top of the other roof door near room 208, and in the basement overlooking the basement exit if you don't exit via the speedboat. If you're not trying for SO/SA, the best disguise for crossing the roof is probably Abel De Silva, as he's allowed on the band's side of the hotel and possibly the roof (I forget if it's only when Jordan leads you down there) and you can get his disguise without running into any cameras; it's super easy if you start in your suite.
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2017 20:11 |
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If you can get the cake topper you can also ignore basically all of the band side by luring Jordan Cross down and smothering him. Only the roof cameras are an issue then. Getting the topper and placing it is hard to do Suit Only but it's not impossible even on Pro.
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2017 21:44 |
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I think at one point they claimed there would be enough ETs to allow people who got the game at retail launch to unlock all the suits, which means at least 15 or so (to unlock the Signature Suit w/ Gloves). They also usually release an Escalation or two a month and push popular community contracts as Featured Contracts. It may be slowing down a bit, but it seems like they'll keep doing it for a while. In the meantime, here's a contract that turned out pretty well, and I'm curious how much time can be shaved: On Walkabout (A House Built On Sand): 1-07-8951081-02 Kill three guards near the edges of the map with three different accidents.
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2017 02:03 |
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Mondian posted:Also that roadie drinking a beer by the door is real trolly with his head-turns, making placing the topper a dice roll. Once you have the distract down getting the topper from the kitchen is relatively trivial, but it's the room full of party dudes that's the problem. Still, if you manage to get the topper on there and hide in the crate you're golden and have the easiest escape.
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2017 08:05 |
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There are a number of ways to the top floor, all with their own particulars:
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2017 16:54 |
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That does work too, but you'll want to be careful dragging the body if the door to the food prep area is open. You also have to make sure to lure the enforcer, but as you said he's the one closest to the statue and should be the one who checks the sound. You also need to make sure to hide him and either take his weapon or leave it behind the statue. While not as many people path through that room as the other staircase (which has another bodyguard milling around near the cabinets and an Auction Staff member who goes up and down), there is one Auction Staff member who comes down and Dalia's assistant and her guard may come down through that area if you trigger her script. I'd say easier than that is knocking out the Auction Staff guy in the empty room since you don't even need to distract him and the bodyguards don't enforce, which is why I mentioned it. It's kind of one or the other; the CICADA Bodyguard disguise gets past frisks but has more enforcers, the Auction Staff goes almost totally unnoticed but gets frisked at the stairs.
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2017 17:21 |
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Also we both forgot the actual easiest way: Raise your Mastery and just start in the auction.
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2017 18:49 |
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A Difficult A-sign-ment (Marrakesh): 1-06-2997112-02 Kill four sign-carrying protesters in full view of a dozen soldiers and a crowd of non-NPCs. I am 100% certain Silent Assassin is possible, though it might be a little random and I haven't managed it yet. Be very careful if you try to snipe. shut up blegum posted:EDIT: Oh yeah, I also have a helpful tip. If you want to expose electrical wires in a puddle, make sure you aren't standing in that puddle when doing so. Ask me how I know
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2017 23:39 |
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where the red fern gropes posted:jesus christ The tank will drop out of your hands. Then the lock sparks.
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# ¿ Mar 12, 2017 04:51 |