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Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
This old bruiser has a lot of sentimental value. It's a 1973 AMC Jeepster Commando with a 304V8, TH400 trans, Dana 20 front, Dana 34 rear, and Dana 20 Transfer case. My old man bought this thing in 1985 and it served us well as a family vehicle and weekend dune climber. It was originally pumpkin orange with a hard top(still removable). As we moved on in years and cars, he always kept it around. By the time I was in high school in the mid 90's it had mostly been relegated to yard mule duty. Rusted to hell and back, beat to hell and back, just pitiful. Dad, being a residential contractor, was making beaukoup money from the late 90's all the way up to 2008 and had all the body work done and painted DuPont hunter green with some blue pearl-coat. 2008 happened and it slipped back into disrepair.

I talked him into selling it to me( supposed to be inheritance but poo poo happens ) and got it hauled down here last weekend. Upon arrival it had jumped time and was worn the hell out on several fronts.



I dug into it almost immediately found some pretty gnarly stuff

In addition to the timing bits, the dist gear was ate to hell and back. The dist gear also drives the oil pump on an AMC 304. Once I got the chain and cam gear done, I dropped in a Summit HEI, ran a new fuel line and added an electric fuel pump.

She fired right up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Js1E1VB5EM
There may have been bourbon involved in the recording of that video.


The list as it currently stands:

Replace timing chain and cam gear - Done
Re-time and upgrade to HEI - Done
New fuel line and electric pump - Done
Replace Brake booster and MC - Done
Adjust vacuum advance - Done
Rebuild carb Upgrade to 4BBL and manifold - Done
Replace rockers - done
Replace Cam - done
Replace lifters - done
Replace Pushrods - Done
Fabricate and install transmission lines(dad literally put rubber hose over the leaky parts and zip tied them) :suicide:
*possibly* replace tires - They're oh so slightly dry rotted but it wasn't stored outdoors and they hold air, might be ok.
repair/replace steering column sensor switch(to keep it from turning over in reverse)
Replace every bushing I can get my grubby little hands on.
Replace Pittman Arm
Replace Tie Rod ends
Replace Power steering cylinder

Farking Bastage fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Mar 11, 2016

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Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
Carb's leaking like a motherfucker :( Not going to run it anymore till I can rebuild it.

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
That HEI is a blueprinted application from summit racing made for AMC v8. Had an internal module and the oil pump slot,literally a drop in replacement. I haven't done a leak down test but the complete absence of blue smoke and good oil pressure would seem to indicate the engine still has life. If it goes I'll get it built. Lifters are noisy and have been since about 1990. There was minimal oil on the plugs after sitting 2 years so that's probably valve guides.

I have a 600 Webber 4bbl sitting on a shelf that would be a good application for it but the intake for that engine is like 300 bucks.

That transmission will probably out live me.

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
I got the proper Brake booster/MC/Spacer combo installed, bled out all 4 wheels and it stops like it did in the 80's. Dad trusted some Autozone dick to source him the right part and the brake pedal has been like kicking a cinder block for at least 15 years. The first cue that I had the right part was the fact is was 1.5X the size of the old one.

Astonishing Wang: As soon as it is finished uploading, i'll post a walkthrough. <3

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
TH400 not shifting out of first... gently caress Hoping it's just the vacuum line

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
https://youtu.be/TlhIdIIk8sM here's your walk around.

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
Found the shift issue

http://imgur.com/a/33iyF

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
I think a carb rebuild is in order sooner rather than later. Having some issues under load. The timing is pegged on 5 deg BTDC ( the factory spec) and even with the Vacuum advance plugged, it bogs down under load and backfires through the carb. Does that sound like not enough fuel to you guys as well?

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
I'm done with that tired rear end ford carb. Timings dead on and after a rebuild the accelerator pump is still fail. Got a 600 Webber 4BBL sitting here off a 4.3. Manifold, throttle adapter gaskets for manifold and coolant neck here Monday.

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
Yeah Edelbrock without the chrome.

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
I got it in a trade for a lovely pellet gun. Came off a marine 4.3. Coworker was eager to get rid of it. Has the fuel regulator and all. The main difference between the two is the electric choke, which I will wire off the solenoid on start.

Farking Bastage fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Feb 15, 2016

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
Couldn't stand it with all the nice weather yesterday. Took her down the road a bit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoA5Qe3npIA

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
Mwuhahahahahaahahahaha!

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
Goddamnit. You mother fucker. Started pulling the intake, got to the last bolt tucked away behind a bunch of emissions bullshit that's getting deleted and that mother fucker was rounded off by someone not me. Gonna have to Ez-out the loving thing.

gently caress
gently caress
gently caress
gently caress
gently caress
gently caress
gently caress you bolt

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
I got it out by hammering a 13mm 6 point onto it. Once inside, I figured out pretty fast why is sounds like a skeleton jacking off in a wash pan full of metal spoons. Rockers are loose as gently caress. These engines use little aluminum pivots and they wear. Several pushrods were plugged which explains the wear. May as well do the lifters while I am an there. I really don't want to have to pull the Camshaft. I've had people tell me rather emphatically that you can use a zinc based break in lube on new listers and they will wear to the cam just fine. Thoughts?

Farking Bastage fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Feb 20, 2016

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
New pushrods lifters rockers and cam in. Assembled the Manifold. I might get this fucker back to running this week.

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
I suffered a bit of a setback attributed to alcohol, black RTV, and a torn intake gasket. Regrouped this week's evenings and got the valve covers back on



and took some time( like i loving should have to begin with ) to mock up the intake and see where stuff interacts.



I figure that electric blue engine paint on the VC's will match the equally electric blue plugwires :)

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
While it is quite blue I think my LED work light tends to amplify the color.

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
I can't get that intake to line up :negative: After some research i've found out that the recommended gasket from Edelbrock is wrong, so I went back to the original valley pan and that won't mate up either. Ordered a new valley pan and bolts after galling a few of them.

Farking Bastage fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Mar 7, 2016

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
^^ You're right about the RTV. Problem here is something on the mating surface of the heads( hopefully the old valley pan) wasn't letting it sit down far enough to line the bolts up.

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
I got it on last night finally. It took some persuading, but the new valley pan fit like a glove.

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
I was actually able to line bolts up without prying on poo poo.. Whodathunkit? I can't mess with it much till this weekend, but stay tuned!

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
Mother fucker is on there.




If you have been reading, I sourced that carb from a 4.3 marine application( basically free but in great condition and beats the poo poo out of $450). Stamped Weber 8867 which is an Edelbrock 1403 600 CFM 4BBL. . It has front and rear PCV openings, which is fine, but I need a timed vacuum port for the Advance on the distributor for an AMC V8. The automotive ones have nipples installed to holes on each side of those adjustment screws. From what I can see this one has the ports, but they are plugged, so I'm going to get the little caps out, press a fitting in and see if it works.



This one has an electric choke as opposed to the original Heat actuated choke, so I should be able to use the switched electrical lead running the HEI and the fuel pump to run it. There's still a million things that can go wrong with this stunt, but I'm feeling a hell of a lot better now.

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
https://youtu.be/ZelhEVqSFxU

Intake and 4 barrel in. Top end rebuilt and back to running. No more skeleton jacking off in a wash pan full of metal spoons noise.

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!

Raluek posted:

Sounds great. Did you do the valley oiling mod while you had all that apart?

I was scared to death to be making metal shavings anywhere near an oil passage. When the day comes to rebuild it I will. I may regret it later..

Farking Bastage fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Mar 14, 2016

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
I got that 4BBL adjusted out( the last video was with a massive vacuum leak) and it's kind of sweet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Jx2DSLjEQ

The last time I put a vacuum gauge on it with old carb and valve train, it fluttered 5-10" It's Dead rear end on now. :feelsgood:

Farking Bastage fucked around with this message at 12:40 on Mar 15, 2016

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!

Bucephalus posted:

Sounds good, nice work!

Now find a set of aluminum slots and lose those godawful "nugget" wheels. :)

The locking hubs are so big on this thing that was the only one that would fit at the time ~1997

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
Soon..

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
I took it out today!!!!!!!!!!

The engine performs like I had hoped. A light throttle tap spins both back wheels on dirt, a generous nudge on pavement makes tire smoke. All the power is way down low. Decent higher up but it is a low end grunter for sure. Quite the opposite from my DD which is a 4cyl turbo. Now for the bad news. She runs and she cools, but she doesn't charge. I took it to the gas station about 5 miles away to fill up and I thought I saw the slightest flicker of an AMP light. By the time I got home it on fully on. Being that I replaced all the spark, choke, and fuel delivery with electric versions, that's not good. Going to pull the alternator and have it tested. Normally, I would just order one since they're dirt cheap but, I can't find data on what that AMC V8 alternator puts out and I'm concerned that the electric choke could be drawing too much.

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!

SNiPER_Magnum posted:

I didn't see it in any of your pictures, but it's mostly likely a standard Remy 10SI alternator. They usually put out ~40 amps in base trim, and ~60 amps if you are optioned out with stuff like A/C and defrosters. I'm guessing you are on the low end if it was never upgraded.

I looked it up and it's 35-ish. Between HEI, Mr Gasket Fuel pump, and Electric choke, probably not enough, or just hosed for that matter. Going to pull it and at least have it tested.

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
https://youtu.be/oShpZfB4UeM

:dance:

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!

sharkytm posted:

Need daytime video.

And tire smoke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cdjrihnIAc

:3:

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!


Put the top on. I love this machine.

Farking Bastage fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Mar 18, 2016

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
Fixed the charging problem, developed a cooling one. Water pump is pissing out the front weep hole should have parts soon. Not looking forward to pulling that fucker.

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
Water pump's changed out no more leaks and it's charging again.

Took her out in the rain for a bit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uoc8h2FpbDA

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
It's nice out today. Pulled the top off and took her out some. My wife was filming and narrating. Excuse the eye rolling when I get on it at the end of the road. :haw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzXFdRGJrQ4

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
Something I'm curious about. I think the secondaries on that carb are putting in a bit too much fuel. Everything ive googled says the secondary is manual. The primary is spot on but if you really step into it it seems like it's just bogging some and drowning in fuel. Is this the part where you change the springs out to lean it up some? It's an Edelbrock 1405

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
With no top and old leaf springs and steering, this thing is goddamned terrifying at 55 MPH

Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!


some of the kids joined me todsy

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Farking Bastage
Sep 22, 2007

Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!
that was the pinnacle of early 1990's technology, complete with 4 of those white boat speakers.

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