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Comrade Fakename posted:Has there been any talk of whether this will just be a single season? It seems that Kennedy either being shot or saved would be a pretty definitive ending. Since he can always reset, Kennedy being saved or not doesn't really make for a definitive ending. He can always go back and try again, or maybe even if he succeeds in saving Kennedy it's not the cure-all that he expects it to be.
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Karmine posted:Eight episode miniseries. And thank god for that, the last thing we need is another King book that would make a good miniseries getting stretched out and milked dry
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Mar 4, 2016 18:34
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What if saving Kennedy is why the Dome came down
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Mar 4, 2016 18:34
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I think a thing that would have helped the time-passing hallway sequence would have been the inclusion of some music to signify the passing of time. Maybe a song that was popular from each year fading in and out as the years passed? But, you know... licensing.
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Mar 4, 2016 20:20
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I've seen those demographic maps of US cities and have of course heard about how divided Chicago, Atlanta, etc. still are. The gas station scene really got me thinking about how those towns couldn't have changed overnight, but also couldn't possibly still be divided so formally. What happened to towns and cities that had a "Niggertown" in the 50 years since?
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Mar 4, 2016 20:34
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Frosted Flake posted:I've seen those demographic maps of US cities and have of course heard about how divided Chicago, Atlanta, etc. still are. The gas station scene really got me thinking about how those towns couldn't have changed overnight, but also couldn't possibly still be divided so formally. What happened to towns and cities that had a "Niggertown" in the 50 years since? Not much. There are still places that are mostly white and places that are mostly black.
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Mar 4, 2016 21:13
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The Berzerker posted:
I somehow missed this too. 
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ExtraNoise posted:I think a thing that would have helped the time-passing hallway sequence would have been the inclusion of some music to signify the passing of time. Maybe a song that was popular from each year fading in and out as the years passed? They should have had the school banners with the years on them hit Jake in the face. If someone watching can miss out on a MASH reference how are they going to go "Ah, Patsy Cline's Fall to Pieces this must mean 1961 went by." The only thing I didn't like about the show so far was the big spooky room of bugs.
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Mar 4, 2016 21:51
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Xoidanor posted:I somehow missed this too.
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Mar 4, 2016 22:22
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I think it's funny that the time jump we're discussing in a time travel series is the 1960-1962 one of all things. 
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Mar 4, 2016 23:42
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Zwille posted:I think it's funny that the time jump we're discussing in a time travel series is the 1960-1962 one of all things. I think a lot of us (especially those that have read the book) were shocked that they did a time jump, and didn't spend a lot more time in the early years. I guess to make it more obvious they could have had Franco turn to the camera as he was talking to Billy and said "Can you believe we've been here 2 years already?" then just stared at the camera for a few minutes with the Franco Smile.
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Mar 4, 2016 23:45
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Medullah posted:I think a lot of us (especially those that have read the book) were shocked that they did a time jump, and didn't spend a lot more time in the early years.
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Mar 4, 2016 23:54
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Frosted Flake posted:I've seen those demographic maps of US cities and have of course heard about how divided Chicago, Atlanta, etc. still are. The gas station scene really got me thinking about how those towns couldn't have changed overnight, but also couldn't possibly still be divided so formally. What happened to towns and cities that had a "Niggertown" in the 50 years since? In one case, the whites bought a 4 foot strip of land across the whole town to stop roads from connecting out of "Niggertown"
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Mar 5, 2016 00:28
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Medullah posted:
This literally happened when Franco turned to Billy and said "we could have spent the last 2 years learning Russian". Everyone seems to complain about book-to-TV being dumbed down and significantly altered. I don't think any adaptations can be dumbed down enough for regular TV audiences.
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Mar 5, 2016 05:50
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Fast Luck posted:they sure did fast-forward through two years in a few seconds which pacing-wise is a bit odd. Dude did one thing in the 'lay low and don't draw attention' and that was to get a job in a school. (assuming his class assignments aren't all 'What is Shakespeare saying about RACISM in Othello?' or other such things. Even then, it seems like the Principal has his back).
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Mar 5, 2016 07:16
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Billmac posted:This literally happened when Franco turned to Billy and said "we could have spent the last 2 years learning Russian". Everyone seems to complain about book-to-TV being dumbed down and significantly altered. I would have preferred a montage.
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Frosted Flake posted:I've seen those demographic maps of US cities and have of course heard about how divided Chicago, Atlanta, etc. still are. The gas station scene really got me thinking about how those towns couldn't have changed overnight, but also couldn't possibly still be divided so formally. What happened to towns and cities that had a "Niggertown" in the 50 years since? These kinda things still happen via gentrification and other ways. The biggest, most recent case I can think of is the mostly white suburban Grosse Pointe Park, MI blocking off one of the major arteries between it and Detroit as a "beautification" effort.
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Mar 5, 2016 11:26
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The Berzerker posted:
Yeah, and all it takes is turning your head for a second to miss that, and regardless, it still feels like Jake and Billy have still only been in Dallas for a short period of time no matter how many times they throw a date on the screen
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Mar 5, 2016 15:32
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savinhill posted:it still feels like Jake and Billy have still only been in Dallas for a short period of time no matter how many times they throw a date on the screen Jesus loving Christ you people. Just say you weren't paying attention and were feeding your cat while cooking or someshit instead of blaming the series. I'm somewhat surprised Racist Gas Ginger wasn't at the Klan rally they attended. Seemed like the perfect time for Jake to get confronted by him.
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Mar 5, 2016 17:06
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The entire gimmick of the book/show is that the dude has to spend 5/3 years living in the past leading up to the big day, you can't really get mad at people for being disappointed that they just handwaved a huge amount of that time. Though if they had actually done an episode or two in 1961 or 1962 to show the passage of time then people would complain about there being filler, so  Either way it would be a lot better if they just dumped the whole show at once.
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Mar 5, 2016 18:34
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FilthyImp posted:Hmm, yes. Perhaps the miniseries should have a TimeCounter on the bottom of the screen, running though each scene? A giant text box that's says JAKE HAS BEEN IN 196X FOR [TIME] - CURRENT DATE IS X,XX,196X. Lol, goons getting turbo-nerd mad cuz they think other people don't watch TV stories correctly will never not be funny
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Mar 5, 2016 19:01
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IDK if people are "turbo nerd mad" as much as you're saying you didn't look at the TV screen while the TV show is on and then you blame the TV show for being subtle or w/e dude
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Mar 5, 2016 20:15
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I saw the title card but I still was very confused for a bit. All of a sudden it's 1962 and there's nothing to show for it? The differences after the title card are just too tiny. I think that's the point of this discussion, not whether or not people noticed it. I bet everyone noticed it at some point or other but was confused because what they're saying ("it's 1962 geddit!") and what they're showing (Jake's buddy still being kind of a dumbass for example) doesn't quite match up. Whatever. It's still fun and much better than Under the Dome.
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Mar 5, 2016 20:19
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I am surprised that we have yet to see Jake encounter anything that sucks about the 60's (aside from the racism). He is having a great time with $5 cars and whatnot, but he has never expressed frustration for not having access to the Internet or other modern comforts he is now without.
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Mar 5, 2016 23:48
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Does the book ever answer questions about the portal (or has the show answered these and I missed them) like can more than one person go through and If so, what happens if one person stays and the other returns to present? Where did it come from?
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Mar 6, 2016 00:16
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He's going to save Kennedy and return to 2016 to find humanity at war with a global network of superintelligent iPhones
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Mar 6, 2016 00:34
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pahuyuth posted:Does the book ever answer questions about the portal (or has the show answered these and I missed them) like can more than one person go through and If so, what happens if one person stays and the other returns to present? Where did it come from? Yeah, what if he goes into the portal and then someone walks in 30 seconds later. Does that erase the first person?
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Mar 6, 2016 00:46
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I don't think they ever get into those questions in the book. Stephen King is always less about the "rules" and science behind stuff than he is the effects of extraordinary situations on normal people. Kinda like  (Oh yeah, I went there  )
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pahuyuth posted:Does the book ever answer questions about the portal (or has the show answered these and I missed them) like can more than one person go through and If so, what happens if one person stays and the other returns to present? Where did it come from? I'm pretty sure it was already quoted in this thread but at the beginning of the book Jake asks Al about what would happen if he caused a time paradox and Al answers "why the gently caress would you do that?" and that's the end of that. It does the Looper/Austin Powers thing where it acknowledges that time travel is completely bonkers if you try and think about it and then moves on.
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Cojawfee posted:Yeah, what if he goes into the portal and then someone walks in 30 seconds later. Does that erase the first person? My assumption is that if you go in sometime within 4 minutes after someone else went in, you'll both appear simultaneously in 1960.
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Mar 6, 2016 02:18
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pahuyuth posted:Where did it come from? Namely: poo poo is hosed on a multiversal scale, and while THIS dimension hasn't devolved into The Mist-like roaming monstrosities, the laws of reality are 'thin' at places and cause some weirdness to leak through.
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FilthyImp posted:If it's anything like the rest of King's world, it's likely due to The Dark Tower's motivating influence. Didn't he write himself into that series?
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Mar 6, 2016 08:10
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Yes, and its awesome. Don't hate.
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Ravane posted:Didn't he write himself into that series? hes the only author in the world who could pull it off and he does
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scary ghost dog posted:hes the only author in the world who could pull it off and he does Haven't read the series, but if he actually pulled it off, I'm curious to read how. 
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scary ghost dog posted:hes the only author in the world who could pull it off and he does Vonnegut does it in a much less bullshit manner in "Breakfast of Champions". FilthyImp posted:If it's anything like the rest of King's world, it's likely due to The Dark Tower's motivating influence. So basically someone spilled the blood of amber on the primal pattern in real Amber? Zelazny's self insert is also significantly less annoying.
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Ravane posted:Haven't read the series, but if he actually pulled it off, I'm curious to read how. he introduced continuity into his life by getting hit by a van and almost dying
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Mar 7, 2016 03:18
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Jake pulling Marty McFlys all over this episode. The last scene shouldn't be too hard to get out of, since he lives with Bill. Just say Bill likes listening to weird poo poo.
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Mar 7, 2016 23:08
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Halfway over and he hasn't reset. It looks like he might get to the assassination on his first run through.
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The last episode will have him get really close to stopping the assassination but then fail at the last second. So he goes back to Maine and resets. Jump cut back to the previous scene except this time he does it. Then James Franco looks into the camera and says "Are you happy now, nerds?" Or for more serious, maybe he stops the assassination and comes back but it's all BTTF II and Donald Trump is president so he goes back into the closet to reset everything and then steps back out.
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