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AlphaKretin posted:A thing happened in the SHSC Ticket thread that reminded me of a beef I have Reminds me of when I was in university and the computers in the chemistry students' resource room couldn't access various chemistry databases because "DRUGS" and "ALCOHOL". If you write, I will make it better.
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Len posted:We had to do a small report on the key players of ww2 back in 9th grade. My group got Hitler. Do you know how hard it is to research Hitler on public school internet? drat near impossible Atleast yours blocked by keywords, my first school used a system were only approved sites were allowed. As in, if you wanted access to a site, you had to request it. I left that school before i started doing serious projects but god drat. Was a christian school who's justification was "protecting the children".
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DrBouvenstein posted:Yeah, we use OpenDNS for web filtering at my office and it blocks the SA Forums for weapons because of TFR. Though, as mentioned, why it chooses that over the drug discussions in TCC is anybody's guess. Really no idea about how it works and all that, but could it be as simple as "weapons" being higher on the reasons-to-block list than "drugs"? Like, the check goes "does it have gunz? Block" and then "does it have drugs? Block" or something, and it just states the first reason that came up.
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In an example of pseudo-censorship not being all bad I have to bring up the 1962 movie Cape Fear. It's a wonderfully creepy thriller about a lawyer and his being stalked by a former client of his who has just been released from prison for a unspecified crime. The crime is never stated but it's heavily implied to be rape. There's a scene that stands out where the lawyer and a detective visit one of the felon's victims who has just been "beat up" by him. For a modern viewer it's obvious the character was sexually assaulted but everyone in the movie refers to it like "he beat her up" The fact that the movie self-censors and never bluntly refers to "rape" or sex of any kind just makes it all the more creepy. quote:"Speaking about your wife and kid... I got a little caper planned for them! Remember that story I told you 'bout my old lady? That was just laughs, Counsellor. That was kid's stuff! I got somethin' planned for your wife and kid that they ain't NEVER gonna forget. They ain't NEVER gonna forget it, and neither will YOU, Counsellor." Nckdictator has a new favorite as of 20:01 on Mar 2, 2016 |
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DrBouvenstein posted:Yeah, we use OpenDNS for web filtering at my office and it blocks the SA Forums for weapons because of TFR. Though, as mentioned, why it chooses that over the drug discussions in TCC is anybody's guess. Probably because TCC is hidden for non-members, and whoever indexed it wasn't logged in.
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Nckdictator posted:In an example of pseudo-censorship not being all bad I have to bring up the 1962 movie Cape Fear. It's a wonderfully creepy thriller about a lawyer and his being stalked by a former client of his who has just been released from prison for a unspecified crime. The crime is never stated but it's heavily implied to be rape. There's a scene that stands out where the lawyer and a detective visit one of the felon's victims who has just been "beat up" by him. For a modern viewer it's obvious the character was sexually assaulted but everyone in the movie refers to it like "he beat her up" Yeah, it's interesting because this is the same sort of thing where implications are often scarier than actually seeing things. Like we should not be applauding censorship for the sake of censorship, but great artists often do better when limited. I think John K of Ren and Stimpy fame is a great example. It was better when he had to sneak past the censors rather that just say whatever offensive thing came to his head.
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Soul Reaver posted:The old CGI TV show 'Reboot' apparently struggled constantly with the BS&P (Broadcasting Standards and Practices board), which restricted them in all sorts of ways. All sorts of bizarre requirements were meted out, such as having basically no violence, no hint of sexuality, or anything. One of the most notorious examples is forbidding the creators from showing a character (Dot) giveing a kiss to her younger brother (Enzo) on his birthday - apparently because it 'promoted incenst'. In the words of the creators, this suggestion by the BS&P was "one of the sickest things I've ever heard." And yet... 
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foobardog posted:Yeah, it's interesting because this is the same sort of thing where implications are often scarier than actually seeing things. Like we should not be applauding censorship for the sake of censorship, but great artists often do better when limited. I think John K of Ren and Stimpy fame is a great example. It was better when he had to sneak past the censors rather that just say whatever offensive thing came to his head. Art through adversity can be really strong, censorship sometimes forces creators to be way more clever then they would be otherwise.
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Mar 4, 2016 10:39
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Buckets posted:Art through adversity can be really strong, censorship sometimes forces creators to be way more clever then they would be otherwise. 'Necessity is the mother of invention' and all that.
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Comedy Central always seems to be unsure of what it wants to bleep late after 11. Just tonight on The Daily Show they had a clip of Strom Thurmond where he said the n-word. It wasn't bleeped when he said it, but the subtitles had asterisks. I know they air reruns during the day, where they definitely will bleep it, and they probably won't want to make the extra effort making a graphic that they know they'll have to censor. It was just a weird situation.
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Mar 4, 2016 11:08
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Would anyone be interested in pointing out how ratings systems differ between countries (ie if violence bumps up a rating higher in, say, Japan or Australia versus how sex would be rated differently in America)? I've heard some interested talk about ratings between the ESRB and CERO in the Zero Escape thread in Games, just curious to hear more here.
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Mar 9, 2016 18:14
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Years ago I saw a documentary about censorship during war time and its evolution. It started in like the Civil War and went through the War on Terror. I think it was on PBS, but I can't find the exact one I saw. Did find this one though which was pretty good and very similar: http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/war-you-dont-see/
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Would anyone be interested in pointing out how ratings systems differ between countries (ie if violence bumps up a rating higher in, say, Japan or Australia versus how sex would be rated differently in America)? I've heard some interested talk about ratings between the ESRB and CERO in the Zero Escape thread in Games, just curious to hear more here. I'm down. That sounds pretty interesting.
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Would anyone be interested in pointing out how ratings systems differ between countries (ie if violence bumps up a rating higher in, say, Japan or Australia versus how sex would be rated differently in America)? I've heard some interested talk about ratings between the ESRB and CERO in the Zero Escape thread in Games, just curious to hear more here. I know that at least in 2000 a movie with tons of sex and full frontal nudity (tits and flopping dongs) was rated K-16 (K-15 under the newer ratings system). 13 year olds could see it with adult supervision. here's what some weirdo wrote about it on IMDB: quote:The movie has an adult theme about a guy going for one-night stands. Consequently there are several sex scenes and quite a few of them have both males and females in several stages of nakedness. Although shots are taken from a neutral angle so as to neither magnify nor cut out the private parts, there's an abundance of all private parts, male and female frontals included. One scene has a suggestion of oral sex and another scene has a suggestion of three men wanking. Slightly more explicit versions are available as DVD deleted scenes.
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Not really censorship, but forum/internet filtering was always interesting to me. For example, how the steam forums change swear words to hearts, somethingawful's logged out filters (gently caress, etc.) and even just the regular word filters that cycle in and out (sjw, cuck, I'm gay, etc.) guild wars 2's forum changes swears to "kitten." It's neat how it also slightly changes the attitudes and cultures on those sites. Some people will voluntarily use the filters even when they don't have to, other people will intentionally play around with it. Seeing what gets changed is always neat. I remember Neopets had some really baffling ones back in the day. Twilight got filtered to My Little Pony, for example.
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Mar 11, 2016 22:09
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Can you say what filters to what for the word filters here?
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:Can you say what filters to what for the word filters here?
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Thank you. I like SJW to skeleton, personally.
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Didn't GameFAQs automatically censor swears as well? I remember being a kid on there and everyone posting on the Dragon Wang (an obscure PS1 game, wang means king in Chinese) and thinking it was the height of hilarity.
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Didn't GameFAQs automatically censor swears as well? I remember being a kid on there and everyone posting on the Dragon Wang (an obscure PS1 game, wang means king in Chinese) and thinking it was the height of hilarity. I can't remember if it auto-censored you I think so. But swearing also used to auto-flag your post for moderation. Which got really weird when you used a word that had a banned word as part of it, your post would still get flagged and usually moderated because the gamefaqs moderation staff was as dumb as its userbase.
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im gay I'm gay There's two different ones! I like how sometimes newbies here actually use the word filters. "Gently caress that poo poo!" It's so cute 
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"I'm gay" -- noted SJW Tom Brady
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Lord Lambeth posted:Poison is a character in Final Fight and later Street Fighter. Originally she was female but she was changed to a transsexual because they thought "hitting women was considered rude" in America. They've since gone back and forth since then on whether she's post or pre-op transsexual. Uh, no? She was originally transsexual (new-half) in Japanese. In the original Final Fight they replaced her and her recolour Roxy with punk dudes. They never appeared in Western releases of the original game. When she started to become an actual character in the Final Fight series the west relaxed a bit and translated her as a "woman" and not as a transsexual. quote:Street Fighter IV producer Yoshinori Ono, when asked in an interview about the matter, stated "Let's set the record straight: in North America, Poison is officially a post-op transsexual. But in Japan, she simply tucks her business away to look female." quote:According to the book All About Capcom Head to Head Fighting Games and Final Fight director Akira Nishitani, the characters were originally planned to be female, but were changed to "newhalfs" (a Japanese term for pre-op trans individuals) after the game's release, due to the suggestion that "hitting women was considered rude" in America and the concern that feminist groups would sue. However, concept artwork included in the 2005 compilation Capcom Classics Collection of the pair specifically uses the kanji for 'newhalf' (ニューハーフ), contradicting the statement the change occurred post-release. Roxy, the recolour of her, might actually just be a cis-woman but Poison has always been a transsexual of some kind. I thought this was common knowledge for years (just like Birdo).
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What's Bred's backstory? Why does he leave his car unattended for Haggar to smash?
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Horrible Smutbeast posted:Uh, no? She was originally transsexual (new-half) in Japanese. In the original Final Fight they replaced her and her recolour Roxy with punk dudes. They never appeared in Western releases of the original game. A very minor point but they appeared in the US sega cd version of the original game at the very least. I'm not sure about the other not-snes ports from the early 90s.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:What's Bred's backstory? Why does he leave his car unattended for Haggar to smash? He obviously was illegally parked so Haggar, as the mayor, had to clean up the street. 
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Horrible Smutbeast posted:Uh, no? She was originally transsexual (new-half) in Japanese. In the original Final Fight they replaced her and her recolour Roxy with punk dudes. They never appeared in Western releases of the original game. When she started to become an actual character in the Final Fight series the west relaxed a bit and translated her as a "woman" and not as a transsexual. That Final Fight even exists isn't common knowledge, much less minutia about the character's backstories. I forgot it even existed before reading this post, and will forget it exists maybe a half hour from now, just like I did the last four times I clicked on this thread and read a post about Final Fight.
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