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Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/2/21/11081300/john-mccarthy-during-kimbo-dada-oh-my-god-this-things-going-all-three

Big John McCarthy posted:

‘Oh my God, this thing's going to go all three rounds.'

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CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man



That article is stupid because it calls McCarthy "the dean of mixed martial arts officials," when that is obviously Herb Dean. :colbert:

turntabler
Sep 10, 2011
How did Dada 5000 pass a prefight medical?

I always wonder how they find Doctors willing to sign off on fighters being totally fine after watching them take multiple shots to the head from cageside.... But in this case all I can imagine is the doctor looking at a sheet of alarming test results but assuming that a joke was being played on him coz it belonged to "Dada 5000" so he stamped it anyway.

handsome only face
Apr 22, 2010

Cockroach went out of the room in anger. And roach's go to empty room...

Cockroache's Anarchist


turntabler posted:

How did Dada 5000 pass a prefight medical?

Texas

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

turntabler posted:

How did Dada 5000 pass a prefight medical?

I'm not sure which test would have revealed that his heart would be at the limit for this fight.
Are fight medicals that different from normal medicals? Do they actually challenge a person's fitness at all?

Writer Cath
Apr 1, 2007

Box. Flipped.
Plaster Town Cop

kimbo305 posted:

I'm not sure which test would have revealed that his heart would be at the limit for this fight.
Are fight medicals that different from normal medicals? Do they actually challenge a person's fitness at all?

Part of me wants to believe that since the dude's going into an MMA fight, that the doctor would assume he's fit.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Writer Cath posted:

Part of me wants to believe that since the dude's going into an MMA fight, that the doctor would assume he's fit.

UFC's most strict about this, everybody else at best has it as a minor priority. It's why people like Kimbo, Shamrock, Gracie, Tito, and probably Kurt are all still fighting: none of these other companies will tell them no

vainman
Nov 2, 2012

I find your lack of faith... disturbing
It's up to the commission to tell them no and the Texas board is garbage. Before Pettis/RDA they were proudly advertising how Texas doesn't drug test

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


vainman posted:

It's up to the commission to tell them no and the Texas board is garbage. Before Pettis/RDA they were proudly advertising how Texas doesn't drug test

This got me wondering what any one commission would have to do for the other commissions to speak up in some way, kind of along the lines in which commssions enforce each others' suspensions: "Texas, you're too hosed up and someone is going to die. Fix your poo poo or we're no longer going to recognize your ____" or something.

I can't fill in that blank, though.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



Does Texas use instant replay? Is Gracie/Shamrock going to get turned into NC because he went down from a groin shot?

turntabler
Sep 10, 2011

kimbo305 posted:

I'm not sure which test would have revealed that his heart would be at the limit for this fight.
Are fight medicals that different from normal medicals? Do they actually challenge a person's fitness at all?

A quick and lazy google found the WBFs prefight medical info: http://www.worldboxingfederation.net/articles/general-medical-guidelines.htm

I imagine its more a medical testing for disease as opposed to workplace fitness etc.

The info I have read so far is that Dada had massively high post fight potassium levels so I would assume he gave himself rhabdomyolysis from over exerting himself in the fight which put him into an arrhythmia. So yeah he probably could of benefited from the medical you have to do to work at a supermarket or whatever.

Edit - from
http://mmajunkie.com/2016/02/after-bellator-149-loss-dada-5000-hospitalized-due-to-renal-failure

“The doctors have now informed us that Dada had accumulated extremely high levels of potassium in his blood which led to severe dehydration, fatigue and renal failure,” the statement reads. “The high potassium levels were likely caunsed by his 40(-pound) weight loss in preparation for the fight.”

"Fighters are required to submit medical documentation that proves they are medically fit to compete; 5000 hadn’t fought professionally in five years when he stepped into the cage against Slice."

So it's the honour system for the fighters to clear themselves to fight? And I would guess they had no prefight ECGs, or blood or urine tests coz they would of all potentially showed the excess potassium.

turntabler fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Feb 21, 2016

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Jerusalem posted:

This makes me so happy and I'm not even sure why. What a magical night.

It's because this is The Best Mental Image.

super macho dude
Aug 9, 2014


I loved Shamrocks delayed reaction to the low blow. Old dicks and balls must take forever to respond to pain.

Charles Gnarwin
Jul 31, 2014

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...


Mr. Nice! posted:

Does Texas use instant replay? Is Gracie/Shamrock going to get turned into NC because he went down from a groin shot?

"Does Texas do [anything that would ensure fighter safety or maintain the integrity of the sport]?"

The answer is always no.

DumbWhiteGuy
Jul 4, 2007

You need haters. Fellas if you got 20 haters, you need 40 of them motherfuckers. If there's any haters in here that don't have nobody to hate on, feel free to hate on me

Writer Cath posted:

Part of me wants to believe that since the dude's going into an MMA fight, that the doctor would assume he's fit.

Bellator mostly operates in locations of very little regulation, like native american casinos or states with lovely athletic commissions. I think there's probably a real story here but MMA Journalism

JHomer722
Jul 30, 2006

And you, you ridiculous people, you expect me to help you.

Is there anything more to the presumed Angle fight other than the same old persistent rumors? My brain tells me it would be Very Sad, but I would still watch him fight, on purpose even.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


JHomer722 posted:

Is there anything more to the presumed Angle fight other than the same old persistent rumors? My brain tells me it would be Very Sad, but I would still watch him fight, on purpose even.

He recently admitted it's not completely ruled out, which is enough: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/fighting/article57866313.html

quote:

My next date is February in Houston. The main event is Royce Gracie vs. Ken Shamrock. I’ll be commentating some on that night. They are having me get my feet wet. Maybe later down the road, if I do decide to fight, the chances are one percent that I fight and 99 that I don’t. I don’t plan on fighting, but if I feel good, my body is going well I might consider it down the road. But right now I’ll say no. But I do enjoy being part of Bellator. They have their own theory with what they want to do. They take chances, and I love it. They are different.

When it comes down to it, look, I am 47-years-old. Kenny and Gracie are in their early 50’s, Dan Severn is in his early mid-50s. Of course, I am not going to wrestle or fight someone in his prime. It’s not going to happen. It will be one of the older guys. But it will be a hell of fight whether its Kimbo Slice, Ken Shamrock, Dan Severn or whoever it is or even Rocye Gracie. But if I do decide to do it, it will be with a Hall of Famer, not someone in their prime.

handsome only face
Apr 22, 2010

Cockroach went out of the room in anger. And roach's go to empty room...

Cockroache's Anarchist


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAnkcPNO-Mg&t=82s

Marquis de Pyro
Sep 25, 2006

Evil Prevails

Chris James 2 posted:

He recently admitted it's not completely ruled out, which is enough: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/fighting/article57866313.html

I love that Kimbo is lovely enough to be lumped in with people a decade older than him

I'd actually love to see Slice v Angle. I mean not in a good way, but in a 'I'd love to be here for the apocalypse' kind of way

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

1.964 million viewers, #2 on cable on Friday night.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Luigi Thirty posted:

1.964 million viewers, #2 on cable on Friday night.

Yep, destroyed all previous Bellator records

Get ready for the Era of the Circus Fights

Marquis de Pyro
Sep 25, 2006

Evil Prevails
First ever tag team cage match, Slice and Gracie vs Shamrock and Dada. This time we settle it

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


I realize 2 million is a monster number for Bellator, but it should have been at least 7 billion.

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"

Great White Hope posted:

I realize 2 million is a monster number for Bellator, but it should have been at least 7 billion.

A lot of backyard viewing parties makes for fewer TVs

Triticum Guzzler
Jun 16, 2002
did it beat cops?

CRISPYBABY
Dec 15, 2007

by Reene

real glad that i'm not the only one on these forums who subscribes to steelworldwide

TheRationalRedditor
Jul 17, 2000

WHO ABUSED HIM. WHO ABUSED THE BOY.
MDE seems to have fallen on the hardest of times

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Captain Log posted:

"I AINT DYING! Choo choo motherfucker!"
:toot::birddrugs::toot:

gently caress. Good for Kimbo. Always seemed like a nice enough dude.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost
UPDATE:

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/3/11/11207556/kimbo-slice-ken-shamrock-fail-drug-tests-at-bellator-149


DADA 5000 remains undefeated

MD2020
May 30, 2003

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

So, had Dada 5000 not been resuscitated, Kimbo would have ended up in no contest with a dead man.

Teddybear
May 16, 2009

Look! A teddybear doll!
It's soooo cute!


MD2020 posted:

So, had Dada 5000 not been resuscitated, Kimbo would have ended up in no contest with a dead man.

I think you have to give the win to the corpse in that case just for hanging in there.

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.


DADA 5000 vs. Royce Gracie for Bellator 150.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Bellator 149 is the gift that just keeps on giving :allears:

Triticum Guzzler
Jun 16, 2002
i think watching that fight we all had the suspicion that kimbo was chemically enhanced

Gay Horney
Feb 10, 2013

by Reene

Triticum Guzzler posted:

i think watching that fight we all had the suspicion that kimbo was chemically enhanced

yeah but I was thinking more along the lines of ambien

Joey McChrist
Aug 8, 2005

i am shocked, absolutely shocked that 52-year old tiny-ball-having man Ken Shamrock was on the gas

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



Joey McChrist posted:

i am shocked, absolutely shocked that 52-year old tiny-ball-having man Ken Shamrock was on the gas

Shamrock popped too?

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Shamrock will accuse Royce of injecting him with steroids when they touched gloves. The media will go to Royce for comment and he'll say,"Yeah well you know poo poo happens sometimes.... :colbert:"

Marquis de Pyro
Sep 25, 2006

Evil Prevails
Shamrock was tactically trying to shrink his testicles to give Gracie a smaller target

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Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.

Marquis de Pyro posted:

Shamrock was tactically trying to shrink his testicles to give Gracie a smaller target

There's probably a greater than ten percent chance that he actually uses this excuse.

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