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ponzicar
Mar 17, 2008


I ran into a few of these MLM scams when I was job searching a few years ago, but was able to avoid wasting my time with any of them. Any job interviewer who doesn't seem to care about your qualifications, and is reluctant to tell you anything specific about the company or job duties is going to be a recruiter for one of these schemes. If you're in doubt, press them for a company name, and then entering it plus the word scam into a search engine will tell you all you need to know.

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ponzicar
Mar 17, 2008


Pilsner posted:

If you can't save up like $400 a month for 12 months (to buy a perfectly drivable $5k car), what business do you even have owning a car? Insurance, fuel, repairs, tires, taxes, and so on. This is basic economics. Owning a new car is not a human right. You could just as well argue that buying a new car that costs you, for example, $500 per month in payments, will shatter the savings you need for future medical emergencies.

If someone has less than $1000 in savings, how exactly are they putting down money on a new car from a dealership then? I'm talking against walking into a dealership and buying a car on a downpayment/loan "deal" here, and recommending buying used for cash instead.

Mitt Romney, is that you?

ponzicar
Mar 17, 2008


ilmucche posted:

How does that even work? Like i wouldn't take the bet, but how do they ever win that?

You got them on your feet.

ponzicar
Mar 17, 2008


ToxicSlurpee posted:

Yes. The short of it is that they want to obscure the actual origins of the package. The reasons can vary but that's the short of it.

It's also potentially for money laundering by shipping something of value to somebody else so they can sell it. There could also be stuff hidden in it that you don't know about. You might get like a few boxes that say they're full of tea or coffee or something that are...well, not tea or coffee.

Wouldn't that be a great target for a counter scam? Play along for a bit, then steal the "tea" or "coffee" once they think you're a trustworthy mark? It's not like they're going to report you to the cops. Although you'd probably want to not use your home address.

ponzicar
Mar 17, 2008


Konstantin posted:

Bitcoin mining hasn't been viable on general purpose PCs for years. People are building mining farms using purpose built hardware in places where power is cheap, spending millions of dollars to get everything set up.

Aren't there a bunch of alt coins that can still be mined this way? Or have they become almost worthless since the last bubble popped?

ponzicar
Mar 17, 2008


Holyshoot posted:

You should be liable if your pin is 1234.

They shouldn't allow the PINs to be set to anything that meets their criteria of a bad PIN.

ponzicar
Mar 17, 2008


Original_Z posted:

The weird part is that OCN is a Japanese ISP so that email address would be linked to a user account and it would be incredibly easy to find out who owned it if an official complaint was made to them.

I'd be surprised if that account wasn't stolen.

ponzicar
Mar 17, 2008


GoutPatrol posted:

Well if she really is at the top of the triangle as she claims she would be a really good salesperson. And probably a sociopath.

They all claim to be at the top though. "I am a loser who can't sell things" doesn't give a potential sucker a good first impression. Especially since it implies that selling mlm bullshit is hard.

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ponzicar
Mar 17, 2008


Dumb Lowtax posted:

Back to scams:

Last year my wife got a letter in the mail from "Fletcher Unclaimed Asset Recovery" that says they have discovered unclaimed assets being held by the New York Office of the State Comptroller. "We would like to assist you in recovering these funds".

Details of your unclaimed asset: Owner name (my wife), year (2017), owner address (some place in new york she didn't live in 2017), reported by synchrony bank, amounts due for undelivered goods/services.

Uh, scam right? How does this one work?

It may work differently in your state, but in California there is also an unclaimed assets program. It's free to use, but doesn't reach out to individual people on the list. So some people do set up companies that go through the listings, notify people on it, and then claim a fee for their services, hoping that those people don't realize they can just contact the program directly for free.

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