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Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
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Xequecal posted:

https://www.myecon.net

Someone at work was gushing about this and passing out business cards for it. Apparently for a $180 sign up fee and $30 monthly maintenance fee they give you access to tools that let you incorporate yourself as a business and helps you "optimize your tax forms" so you can deduct a bunch of stuff from your taxes. They also have a referral thing where you get $50 for everyone you refer and everyone they refer. The whole thing sounds absurdly shady but I googled it and was unable to find any kind of scam warnings about it other than one blog post, despite it apparently being around since 2009.

This doesn't sound so much like a scam, as a dude selling you the means to put yourself in jail. It's not illegal, or even scammy really, to help people incorporate businesses. There are some easy ways to streamline a business return that a CPA can show you, and which you can pass off to gullible people. Those might even be appreciated by stupid business owners who don't want to hire an accountant. But falsely incorporating a business to try and lie on your taxes and get undeserved deducations is a really good way to get the government furious at you. The IRS does not gently caress around with that poo poo. And the people who would fall for this (I.E. those who don't have enough money to pay someone to do it right.) don't really have the means to dig themselves out of that hole once an audit figures out what they're doing.

This seems less like a scam, and more like a dude opening up a "Black Van, duffel bag, and Jackhammer Emporium!" across from the town bank. Still a ways to part fools from their money, but he's technically selling you things that could be actually useful in the right context. He's just advertising it in a way that will almost certainly get you in a lot of trouble.

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Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.

drunk asian neighbor posted:

It's a bit crappy to sell freely available information, but I mean nowadays you could argue that virtually any industry is guilty of the same. I had a college professor literally tell my class "I'm skipping these 3 chapters in the text (which cost like $200) because they don't do a great job of explaining the material, here are some links to places online that cover it much better."

I had a college professor once that had his work stolen by a textbook company, after they used some shady practices to gently caress him out of the money they were supposed to pay him for the sections of the book he provided the work for.

He kept pdf files of the entire textbook and distributed them freely to our class, because "gently caress those guys" :frogc00l:

Last I heard the school told him to stop doing it, and he told them they could fire him or gently caress off because he wasn't going to.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.
The IRS are very helpful, but actually trying to reach someone for the 4-5 months of the year where it's important is like pulling teeth. From about February through April, their phone lines are locked up with other people trying to call.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
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Alternatively, they just didn't want to go through the trouble of filling out another drat form. The less time you have to live, the more you despise additional paperwork. :v:

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
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...but experts warn it is
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That's when you start a throwaway hotmail account with more fake information, to register with the site again! :pseudo:

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
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...but experts warn it is
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EL BROMANCE posted:

Read this yesterday... still seems a bit odd regardless of what the author says. Either way it's interesting to read 'I'm aware of the scams and I went along with it anyway' and I'm sure plenty of people will now read this and fall for scams themselves.

http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20160601-the-moroccan-scam-that-wasnt

While that does sound like he had a fun night, it also suspiciously sounds like the foreign equivalent of a pig party. Especially the "Old man warns him to be careful" and "Everyone laughs as he enters the room." I bet tricking stupid foreigners to wear a funny robe and make a fool of themselves is a pretty hilarious, and harmless, good time. :v:

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.
I just walk down the street with both hands up, middle fingers blazing, and turn towards every person I see to give them the full salute. Is that not what everyone does?

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
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...but experts warn it is
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"Fell off a truck" is not in-of-itself a scam. It's a codeword for "This merchandise is stolen". Now, the venn diagram of "scams customers" and "sells stolen goods" may have a lot of overlap, but it's not exactly a scam. More a chance for someone to use a scam and get away with it, since you can't exactly go to the police and say "This piece of poo poo the guy in a van sold me isn't the stolen merchandise I was attempting to buy!"

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
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drunk asian neighbor posted:

You are literally the crazy old man who thinks everything is a conspiracy or a scam. I never thought I'd meet one in real life.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
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Running a focus group to determine the effect of an advertisment is the same as running an experiment to confirm a hypothesis. In both cases you have a pretty good idea what's going to happen before you do it, but science demands confirmation, and there's always a chance of something unexpected.

You can smugly say "We don't need a focus group for a chemical reaction :smuggo:" but if you ask a real life chemist whether he'd publish a paper on a reaction without actually testing the reaction, he'd probably call you a loving idiot.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
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...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.
"Magistrate" makes me think Louisiana, did his accent sound similar to this?

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
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...but experts warn it is
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Actually, in that case it's the other way around. Marine parts have to be produced to stand up to being in and around water constantly without rusting away, so they're generally made with more zinc. But it's a difference of, like, a few cents either way, so if you produce a billion marine nuts and bolts and can only sell a few million, you just repackage them as normal ones, sell them at the market rate for a normal nut and bolt, and take in a slightly smaller profit. Aircraft parts are a whole different monkey because they're built as lightweight as possible, with lots of aluminum.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.
I don't think that was necessarily a scam, but I agree with Pharma that anything involving a card is just inviting unneeded trouble. It sounds perfectly reasonable to me that if I only have three bucks, and desperately need something that costs 5, to offer to give someone my three dollars if they'd be willing to purchase the 5 dollar item for me with their card. But on that same note, I also wouldn't begrudge them turning me down because it's a weird situation and charity isn't something you can demand of someone else.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.
Phones are easier and more rewarding to nab in that way, and a lot more people will pull their phone out to give you the time, than people will pull their wallet out to buy you some chicken. Plus, if dude is in a Wal-Mart and about to check out he's going to be grabbing his wallet anyways to pay. Making your presence known and asking for money is just going to put someone on guard and make it that much harder for you to actually steal the wallet. If that were the case, the scammer would be a lot better off to just loiter near the cashier pretending to look at postcards or something, and then walk past and snitch the wallet after the person has paid and has their hands full carrying bags and/or pushing a buggy.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
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...but experts warn it is
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Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
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The sheer amount of "Go gently caress yourself"s that man must get on a daily basis is staggering. :v:

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
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Korgan posted:

I still cringe remembering this and if someone tries it on me again I'm going to make an rear end of myself in front of other people.

Scamming is a strange game, the only winning move is not to play. Don't give them the satisfaction of getting pissy, just ignore them and move on with your life.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
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ravenkult posted:

Some people are too stupid.

True story once, when I was young and on spring break I got cornered by a junkie who just needed "ten bucks man, all I need is ten bucks". I, like a loving rocket scientist, told him "sorry, all I have is a twenty."

He took my twenty, bought ten dollars worth of pills, and brought me back my change. It was the most polite, and surreal, mugging I have ever experienced. :v:

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.
Hell, even if I knew it was legit I would probably press 2 just to see what would happen.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
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:psyboom:

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
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They "tried" it, and he caught them in the act, preventing them from actually robbing him.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:

So what is the economic incentive to pay for posters?

Start here:
https://violentmetaphors.com/2016/01/26/a-skeptic-on-the-conspira-sea-cruise-day-1/

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

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just a drop in the ocean.

Araenna posted:

I got an e-mail a few days ago from a senator (that somehow ended up in my spam folder) about a class action lawsuit settlement I might be eligible for against Nigerian scammers.

:ironicat:

When you think about it, this is actually kind of loving genius. Who better to target for your stupid scam than people that have fallen for them before.

Pure evil, but also pure genius. Kind of like those companies that offer to refinance your student loans.

Edit:

B33rChiller posted:

3) No French translation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5l0PD80u9k

Captain Bravo fucked around with this message at 08:16 on Sep 11, 2016

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Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.
Not technically SovCit, but always fun to link in these conversations:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pBougV1JK4

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