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SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


Yay finally caught up.

Funny enough, I got 'scammed' yesterday while reading this thread. It's more of a technical exploit, but still. I was downloading some free apps from the google play store through referral links to get points in a stupid app I was just messing around with. You know, the typical 'watch a video for 50 points, download this app for 100 points...'. Through some API, either one of the downloaded apps or one of the referral links someone grabbed my phone number and charged a subscription for a completely unrelated service to it (We have phone bill subscription services here for some reason). So now I got a 4,99 per week subscription on my phone bill without ever agreeing to anything or registering anywhere. They even sent me a fairly well written contract, it even contains a spiel about how I agreed to waive my 14 day cancellation rights.
Anyway, cancelled the subscription via my provider, locked any future subscriptions and asked them to remove the charge. By the sound of their support that doesn't really work out and I was told to make a claim with them after I get the bill.

All in all, it's a scam I was fairly familiar with, I didn't know the charge could be placed so easily tho. Obviously they bank on users eating the first charge even if they cancel immediately.

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SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


Thanatosian posted:

I guess I'm just paranoid in that I'm very careful about what apps I put on my phone, and can't imagine randomly downloading apps for referral points. My phone has financial information, location information, and my phone number isn't something that's easy to change, either in a technical sense or a practical sense (it's been my phone number for ten years), so if it gets onto a bunch of telemarketing lists, I'm fairly hosed.

Well, android permissions are very clear and there's no real risk if you know what permissions you are approving. I'm not sure if there's some way to get the device phone number without phone permissions on android or if the number was leaked through the browser anyway. But there's no risk of leaking financial credentials through an app without special permissions.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


Lutha Mahtin posted:

sadly this isn't true to the extent you're saying. android has several permission groups which don't require user consent and they can be used by shady apps to do shady things. the way android implements accessibility features has been used for this purpose, where the shady app is able to use the accessibility services to screenshot the user's device and spoof user input. spoofing input (I've seen it called "clickjacking") is one way apps can install extra, even shadier apps without user knowledge

Are you sure? As far as I can tell anything that interacts with user input is part of explicit permission groups you have to approve.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


maskenfreiheit posted:

I've had the same cell number for a decade and a half but somehow these scammers didn't manage to call me?! LAME

Don't worry, they'll call you now that they know you think you get 900 $ for being called

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


Lutha Mahtin posted:

caller ID in many countries other than USA is a usable service. shocking, right

What do you mean "Usable as a service"? Most countries here in europe don't have Caller ID text stuff like you do, but numbers are still spoofable everywhere (Because it's a feature). Certain endpoints can still see the real number, but for dumb phones you gotta choose one.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


Germanies (former) "GEZ" was notorious for being really pushy and basically looking in peoples windows and all that creepy poo poo.
Here we have "TV and radio" or just a radio license. The service that does it sent me a letter when I moved in and I just sent back the reply form saying I don't have a broadcast receiver. Luckily there was a judgement a while ago that specifically stated that PCs can't be defined as broadcast receivers, previously they tried to force people with computers on the radio only plan.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


Aix posted:

Actually they changed that up a few years ago (and renamed the GEZ to "ARD ZDF Deutschlandradio"), you pay per household now, no matter which or how many devices you own. So if youve rented in germany ever since the change youve got back fees with them... and theyre greedy assholes, they wont waive them if you "sign up" now

I know, that's why I wrote former GEZ, it's now "ARD ZDF Deutschlandradio Beitragsservice", the first 3 parts are unnecessary anyway. But yeah, the system in germany is now "everyone pays, regardless of TV", so the old methods have become obsolete and it's just about getting the money from people.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


I once got an email for a highschool teacher with homework, also addressed to his work email and another gmail variation.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


Hippie Hedgehog posted:

So one mechanic had one opinion and the other mechanic had another opinion... Which one is the scammer? I mean you don't need to assume he was being intentionally dishonest when it's equally attributable to incompetence.

About van meat, is it usually fake/mislabeled, or just stolen? I know shops here have a lot of meat shoplifted from them so I suppose it has to go somewhere.

Going to someone that claims to be a professional who is actually incompetent is a scam in itself.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


Bidding to the bottom is the business concept of several service apps these days. Some industries wise up and only the worst bidders remain on those platforms.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


Ah yes, the classic phone connection prank, I suppose it can be mildly entertaining for the man in the middle, more so if they previously agitated one or both participants.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


This is the same as a pawn brooker, no?

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


First make sure you actually got their scam right, because to overcharge your card they don't need the CVV2

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


We deployed Dell AIOs in a hospital ICU environment and by default all the touchscreens were left turned on. It took a little while, but the touchscreens started acting up because of the disinfectant. Since the touchscreen wasn't even supposed to be used anyway, we just disabled it. Because of terrible management we didn't do this by GPO, but rather by manually disabling it on every single machine manually when it occurred. Which made it hard to do, because the mouse was on the fritz.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


mostlygray posted:

Business tend to pay via check. I write 40 or 50 checks per month. It's really easy and allows you to mail the payment details with the check or any other notes you might have.

Check protections are very strong. Credit card is pretty good but, if someone messes with a check, it becomes criminal and the bank has to reverse it.

A few months ago, someone stole a check from a mailbox that we had written and used white out to change the pay to. After it cleared, I went to the bank and just said "Look at this". They had even cashed it at the same bank we use and there was a thumb print on it indicated that it was cashed without an account.

We had the money back within a day. The hilarious thing is that I looked up the pay-to name to see if he had a criminal record. He had actually just been released from prison a few days before he stole the check from us. By the time the check had cleared, and I'd reported it, he was already back in jail for something unrelated. The dude just couldn't stay out of jail. The bank did report him for check fraud so that, I suppose, would have been tacked on.

While all of that is hilarious, I am apaled by the fact that a bank could be scammed by tipex...

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


I don't understand how an electronic transfer can cost more, but I also don't understand american banks.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


Tokyo's ATMs are weird in that you can get free withdrawals, but only during the day. Had I known that I would have just topped up on cash at a slightly different time.

Basically 7/11 ATMs are free from 8-18 or something like that.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


Three pronged shape with 3 angles. Not a trident. 3 guesses.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


shame on an IGA posted:

this is exactly why every time I've felt like flushing a few dollars on scratchers I only scratch the barcode at the bottom and put it right in the checker machine. gently caress you I'm not playing your game, I'm here to lose fast and brutal.

They used to list HDHD for empty ones, and the actual value for winners next to the serial number, but they stopped doing that a few months ago, so now you have to scratch it all.
A little part of me was hoping it was empty because you have to pick up the main prizes at a special place and the listed amounts are just for the supermarkets and other small gambling points.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


Well the EMP protection is a pure hardware protection.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


TheComicFiend posted:

My wife keeps getting calls from a women's correctional facility in Nevada. As far as she knows, she doesn't know who it could be or how they got her number.
She lets it go to voice mail but the msg seems like she has to accept the call in order for anyone to speak--but there's no way we're gonna take it.

What's the scam here?

Is it the Chilli Peppers Correctional Facility in Roy, New Mexico?

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


wizzardstaff posted:

I just completed annual security training for my work. Hell is a place where they make you play "spot the phish" flash games forever.

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SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


Inceltown posted:

Uber gives job priority to cyclists. This creates a huge incentive to lie about the fact you're using a car.

With someone as anal about using metadata as Uber, wouldn't they monitor drivers GPS and if they went above certains speeds penalize them for lying?

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


AlbieQuirky posted:

There are a lot of cities where you can go faster by bike than by car if there’s any traffic.

Yeah OK that's fair, I forgot that the US uses gridlock as a driving style.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


hyperhazard posted:

Piggybacking on that, if you want to be absolutely horrified, check out this autobiographical comic from a dude who survived Elan.

https://elan.school/

The part that made me angriest was that his parents didn't believe him after he was released, even when he showed them proof. The entire thing is so very hosed up.

Holy. poo poo. Went down this rabbithole and I'm not sure I wanted to know about this attrocity. 40 loving years.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


BiggerBoat posted:

Same. Stumbled across a documentary called "The Last Hope" that's on Amazon Prime if anyone's interested.

Sure about the name? Couldn't find it, even via google.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


Zamujasa posted:

This is a different thread, but it's "My dad stole my identity", from 2009.

What a read.

Quality share, was there ever a followup?

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


Should have taken the money.

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SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


Konstantin posted:

Also, water absorbs radiation. Nuclear power plants store their spent fuel rods at the bottom of pools, and the water at the surface is safe enough to swim in.

Everything absorbs radiation, only contamination with radioactive particles is a problem. Water from chernobyl would be heavily contaminated.

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