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JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Plus, I don't think Compaq has been a thing in nearly 15 years.

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JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Thanatosian posted:

The tickets to the Fyre Festival were twelve thousand dollars apiece. For a music festival. No one is starving to death because they got conned there, that's for sure.

I thought a bunch of the attendees bought some sort of early discount tickets that were only like $500(which might partly explain why it failed so hard)?

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Thanatosian posted:

I don't understand how that would protect you from anything.

Generally speaking, if your credit card has a bunch of fraudulent charges on it, your credit card company has a problem. If your debit card has a bunch of fraudulent charges on it, YOU have a problem.

That used to be true back in the day, but nowadays debit and credit card protections are virtually the same:

https://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/alpha-consumer/2009/08/18/fraud-protection-debit-versus-credit-cards

The only real difference is that fraud pulls YOUR money out so you're broke, while CC fraud charges usually get taken care of by the time you get your bill, so it's no big deal. That said, I had a couple fraudulent debit charges a few months ago and the bank had my $$$ back within 48 hrs. Of course, each bank is different.

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Cyrano4747 posted:

Where did you go to check that?

At the bottom of that link, in little letters, there's a line 'file a claim'. Click on it and it will bring you to another page, in which there's a bunch of options and a couple of them say 'check if your number is eligible'. Enter it and it'll give you the thumbs-up or down.

Mine wasn't, but my elderly father's is, I'll try to get him a few bucks.

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Depressio111117 posted:

The loony detector van, you mean.

Never seen so many aerials!

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Cyrano4747 posted:

Yes, you are. A few years ago the government had a program that was billed as trying to get fuel inefficient cars off the road, but which really just hosed poor people to give a sloppy BJ to the auto industry. It was called 'cash for clunkers.' I forget the details, but basically you turned in your old car and bought a new one. THe dealer gave you a guaranteed buyback based on some details about the car but usually it was between $2000 and 4,000. The dealers then got the money from the feds and they were REQUIRED to scrap the car. Since dealerships were involved there was a LOT of shady poo poo, especially when you start getting into the sketchy used car lot type places.

The upshot was that all those $500-2000 serviceable but loving junky clunkers that poor people used to drive got crushed because the gov't was frequently offering way more on the incentive than they were worth. This was basically a giant hand job to the car industry (it happened right after the '08 crash and played a big role in floating the industry until the economy bounced back) and coupled with an explosion in predatory sub-prime auto loans it put a lot of relatively poor people into new cars, for a while at least. Of course if you didn't have junker to turn in but needed a cheap car a few years latter, well, you're SOL.


Jesus, you can quit beating that dead horse now, itís loving pulverized. Cash for clunkers was almost ten years ago and it only paid out for vehicles that got 18mpg or less EPA combined city/highway mileage, meaning that about ten zillion lovely early Nineties Explorers and Grand Cherokees got squashed. Nothing of value was lost. None of the CFC vehicles would have kept running very much longer anyway, and the cars people want(Accords, Camries, Corollas, etc) were worth far more than CFC was paying at the time, plus they got too good of gas mileage.

Used cars today are more expensive across the board because everything is pricier, plus the average car will run 150-175,000 miles instead of 100,000 miles, so high-mileage vehicles are more valuable than they used to be. But you can still find ugly-looking shitpiles that run OK for a couple grand, Craigslist is full of them.

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Old Toyota trucks are goddamn completely insane when it comes to cost - theyíre perfectly fine vehicles, but in no way justify the prices people ask/pay for them. Rangers are every bit as tough and reliable as Toyotas, and theyíre literally half the cost.

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

MightyJoe36 posted:

This is what I do. If it's not a number I recognize, it goes to voicemail. If they don't leave a message, it wasn't important.

Same. If the number doesnít show a name from my address book, it doesnít get answered. If itís someone that legitimately needs to speak with me, theyíll leave a message. Itís too bad that itís come to this, youíd think there would be a technological fix, but the present telephone system is a steaming pile of fuckwads.

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

JFC, Steve McQueen got suckered into that useless crap like 40 years ago and it was widely known to be bullshit even then.

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Yeah, and Apple made sure that their current upgrade, IOS12, works on all the devices that ran 11, and they didnít get any slower, either.*

Iím not saying they actually put effort into optimizing for slower devices in response to the beating they took in the press, but Iím sure it didnít hurt.



*Apple claims actual speed increases in some circumstances, but my GFís old 6s seems the same to me.

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Not trying to sound all crazy and paranoid, but Iím absolutely sure thereís tons of massive CC data breaches constantly and theyíre covered up.

I got a BofA Visa for the sole purpose of using to cover inadvertent overdrafts on my checking account, this card never was inserted into a machine, never used anywhere for anything except internally at BofA to cover an overdraft. I get a bill one month for a bunch of fraudulent poo poo on the other side of the country.

How could this happen except through a BofA security breach? Yet one was never announced. I got all the charges removed easily enough, but nobody ever explained how it could have happened.

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Holyshoot posted:

You ever type the numbers online or on your computer? Could be a computer compromise if so.

Nope. I mean, they sent me the card and it got put in a cabinet with my insurance papers and important crap and never moved from that spot until I cut it up. I didnít carry it with me or anything. And BofA never sends the whole card number on bills or anything either.

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Initio posted:

How much can I trust PayPal in general now?

I remember them from when eBay owned them, and they would basically not give people you their money because of a buyer/seller complaint, and essentially you had no recourse because they werenít officially a bank.

Should I be worried that the buyer would try to just reverse the transaction? Or that PayPal would because it turns out the buyer didnít actually have the funds?

I would never trust PayPal with a significant amount of money as a seller; itís just too easy for a buyer to scam you. PayPal almost always sided with the buyer, and even if they eventually give you the money, itís on YOU to prove that the buyer is a scam artist.

Iíve sold several fairly high-dollar($5K-$15K) vehicles for cash, and Iíve either met at the DMV or the bank to do the final exchange. Cashierís checks from private parties have a terrible scam rate.

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

luxury handset posted:

i joined our nextdoor mostly for lost pets and to sell off old furniture but i stopped checking it months ago because even though i live in a pretty hippy liberal place, it's still nothing but wall to wall retirees whining about noise and non-white people

Same here.

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Mister Kingdom posted:

This is a new one: I got an email that told me they had my passwords for all the porn websites I am a member of. They hacked my webcam and will send copies of my masturbation videos to eight random people on my contacts list unless I send them $3,000 in Bitcoin.

I have 24 hours.

What WILL I do!?!?!

I got one of those too. Shaking in my boots, lemme tell ya.

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Fruits of the sea posted:

I looked it up - the original group was called Synanon. It was a counter-cultural group from the 50's that eventually saw some success as an alternative to AA. If anything, they probably get the credit for inventing the model

You canít mention Synanon and not talk about how they employed admitted thugs who beat people so badly they fractured their skulls, then put live rattlesnakes in the mailboxes of the attorney who brought a lawsuit on behalf of ex-members.

Seriously, the Wikipedia entry is completely insane.

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JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Pekinduck posted:

I have a 6 year old ipad which is now pretty much unusable despite being in perfect physical shape. Websites take 30 seconds to load, the browsers always crashing and pdfs won't open. Not buying an apple product again.

Not trying to stick up for Apple, god knows they have enough minions, but the blame for that is solely on the flaming dipshits in advertising and web design. It takes a massive, massive amount of memory to open todayís webpages, and six or seven year old portable devices donít have enough RAM to do it, so you get browser failure and fuckery.

Has nothing to do with tinfoil-hat conspiring theories and CRAPPLE, AMIRITE. Part of the reason everybody whines about Apple poo poo is because all the older Android tablets and old phones donít get updates at all(or maybe one), and were chucked out or given to toddlers years ago.

Edit: gently caress, beaten, utterly.

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