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Josef K. Sourdust posted:I know this isn't really the thread for it but can anyone remind me what the logic is behind that campaign "You don't own your legal name"? I saw some posters here in the UK and I remember a few months ago someone explaining it was sovereign citizen poo poo. Remind me pls? It's a common (self-)con/scam in the western legal world, so maybe it counts? Maybe less so because mental illness is almost certainly present in many of its adherents. There have been some great SA threads in the past, though. Here's a nice SovCit informational paper published by the UNC School of Government: https://www.sog.unc.edu/sites/www.sog.unc.edu/files/Sov%20citizens%20quick%20guide%20Nov%2013.pdf Anyway, their idea is pretty much a schizophrenic understanding of how courts and legal systems work. That, much like Rumpelstiltskin, your True Name is the key to bypassing these laws applying to a governmental construct about you which is entirely voluntary if you know the right The particular bit about not owning your name may refer to the idea of government creating a secret personal account in your "name" but not your True Name, in order to collect interest even though they're better off collecting interest on larger combined-population sums (like they do in reality). It may refer to the various ID# systems, and may declare JOHN SMITH ssn#1234567 to be inherently different from John Smith ssn#1234567 or Smith, John ssn#1234567 (again, for crazy person reasons). It's hard to get much into their reasoning without knowing the particular cases, since a smug 17-year-old is going to approach the SovCit thing way differently from a 55-year-old with schizophrenia. Here's a pretty comprehensive legalistic anti-sovcit debunk written by a Canadian judge: http://www.canlii.org/en/ab/abqb/doc/2012/2012abqb571/2012abqb571.html?autocompleteStr=meads&autocompletePos=2 edit: Since it's not worth making another semi-relevant post, an example of a sovcit trying to defend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7h7uevwxt8 Turns what should be 2-minute trial of lane control failure and DUI w/o licensure or plates, into a 10-minute semi-coherent word salad defense centered around the (sovcit) nature and boundaries of legal personhood. sweart gliwere fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Sep 6, 2016 |
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EL BROMANCE posted:I do love the names these guys pick out, it's like they *almost* make sense but never quite right. Even if the name and phrasing were on-point, there's still the cool central plotline: "Uh, we're in Africa now. Not any specific country, but the American FBI (a domestic agency limited by US borders) now operates in all of Africa. Yeah don't worry about it, the whole continent is united in support for our program. ONLY FOR A LIMITED TIME"
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Midjack posted:I'd like to see the flowchart of thoughts that led to you believing this was worth posting. Insurance fraud (false equipment theft report), a firmware flash and case change (do cable boxes have chassis intrusion switches?), then monthly neighborly equipment swaps until the That gets me wondering, how many cable boxes and remote displays could you serve to a cul-de-sac from one house's cable or satellite subscription via WiFi? edit: thread-relevant because of course it would carry penalties steep enough to make it a self inflicted con sweart gliwere fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Aug 12, 2017 |
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Pharmaskittle posted:He's just joking that "life hacks" are usually dumb. That's it, that's all there is to it PYF life hacks: throw your cable box through your neighbor's widow like a animal, you piece of poo poo
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Does Google voice not take new number requests anymore? You can block and all they hear is the "this number has been disconnected" message, you can record if you want, forward calls to your main number, call overseas cheaply, text via Hangouts, etc. And it at least used to be a flat single $20 charge. It's been a godsend for Craigslist and acquaintances and iffy work prospects etc. I recommend it for the scam averse
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cumshitter posted:Go to their website and sign up for their classes with names like gently caress YOU STOP CALLING ME. That's how I got them to leave me alone. I've wondered about the viability of this virtual "prepaid postage envelope full of rocks and pennies" approach. But I'd guess modern PCs are harder to choke with stuff like huge.jpg attached as an "I printed this form out and scanned it for you!" trick, same for auto run office macros, and obviously sending legit malware puts you at too much risk of legal trouble.
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Proteus Jones posted:It's barely a ripple and you'd have to inline with the broadcast origin with the receiver between to even have a prayer of picking up such a small perturbation. If I lived in the UK, I'd hope to scavenge yard sales until I could one day put an amplified TV receiver or two along with an oscilloscope in every room of my residence for the fabled telly van squad. It'd be like cops finding a grow house via infrared, except everyone involved would awkwardly agree the situation is silly and stupid and mildly shameful.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Where exactly is this the standard belief? Probably an implied *unjust there. But to yank war into topicality: https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html sweart gliwere fucked around with this message at 14:20 on Sep 18, 2017 |
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Proteus Jones posted:The whole bad grammar and slightly off phrases and spelling are a gatekeeper as well. It's very effective at weeding out all but the people most likely to fall for these. That one was so badly composed, though. Like maybe a patient but low-functioning schizophrenic could fall for it, but there's enough word salad that a regular dumb person or gullible auntie might not parse it.
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EL BROMANCE posted:So I’m guessing the long game for them is they essentially get impressionable people to fork up straight cash, then use them as lead generation as it’s likely the people closest to them will at least consider the products in order to help their career. Once the leads dry up, you’re no longer of use to them and it’s over? The long game is probably rooted in impossible to charge-back payment methods for their new hires and classes and seminars. Just another reason to hammer the point home to kids in school: if you're paying up front for a new job, it's probably not a real one or a good one.
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MightyJoe36 posted:I've been hit with the MLM pitch several times over the years. It's basically always the same pitch: This, but for some doofus who had a vague but enticing Vector ad in the local paper when I was a kid. When I called up to see what the "minimum $15 per hour" job was, the person who answered literally wouldn't tell me what the drat job actually entailed. She kept saying to come on by, don't worry about it it's great. Even as a highschool student in need of cash, that turned me off from considering the company. Maybe she didn't realize how shady that sounds, or that someone willing to show up to a dumb obfuscated mystery job for the money alone could just be a day laborer or an escort?
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Person: I have my own successful business where I'm my own boss and make tons of extra money. We're looking to bring on some new people and you seem like you would be a good candidate.
Me: Is it Amway?