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Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
glad this thread is back. Unfortunately I fell off the wagon for several months with my new job working ridiculous hours, but a couple weeks I joined a 24/7 gym and so did a co worker, so I should be good now. Good news is my gains seem to be coming back fast. Adding 10 or so lbs no problem every time I squat,etc. Bad news is my left knee has been hurting like a bitch sometimes after I squat. I'm pretty sure my form isn't bad. I'm thinking its just tightness, as I haven't yet started regularly stretching/foam rolling like I did before so maybe that's all I need to start doing.

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Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
I'm not sure what to tell you, I pull a lot of hours myself(10 hour shifts, 11 days on 3 off, repeat) but it's only moderately physically strenuous. Like, I feel it's the lack of a free time that makes it hard rather than being wore out real bad. FWIW, I do a SS/stronglifts style routine where I only go 3 days a week.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
yeah i'm still drinking like 4 a night, need to cut that out but so far i'm still making gains. for me the diet part is what sucks, i don't have time to cook. although i've experimented with making up meals in large batches a little. seems to work, somewhat. I tend to eat a family sized batch in like a day and a half though because i'm a lazy pig and will always go for the food that requires the least amount of work.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
Hit 225x4 on deadlift tonight, last time I did 185x5. Had a friend watching form and everything, my gains are coming back much faster than anticipated. I think I was up to about 285x5 when I quit working out, if I can keep flying on up to 260 or so I'll be really happy.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
i forgot if i posted this or not last week but i've had some squatting knee issues too. i had no problems last time i worked out squatting, then i got a job working a shitton of hours where I'm on my feet(but it's not terribly grueling) and quit working out for about 6 or 7 months. Anyway, I joined a 24 7 gym a couple weeks ago and I'm getting back in the swing of things except I get knee pain when I squat now. It doesn't hurt bad as long as I don't ignore it and keep squatting. Feels like a tightness tugging around my kneecap is the best way to describe it. I've tried going wide on my stance, but my loss of flexibility makes that hard to keep my knees out tracking with my toes, and doesn't seem to make a difference anyway.

I'm sure I know what it is, since I've been working out I've neglected foam rolling and stretching at night. I started doing it last night(focusing on quads and IT band mostly, but I hit other areas too), and it seemed to help the pain(and I had none today) but it's too early to tell for sure. just posting in here because why not? but i guess thats the answer.


also fwiw deadlift doesn't hurt. In fact jumping back in and working up to a 225x5 deadlift over the 2 weeks didsn't even hurt it, but if i attempt even a 115 squat it did.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
yeah I'm not even going to attempt to squat anything over 115 until I'm sure it's 100% pain free. Like I said I'm pretty sure it's just tightness doing it. The first time I started working out I thought I was loving up my back deadlifting, and it turned out I wasn't really stretching or foam rolling and doing that made it go away. Hoping it's the same deal here. Also I'm not sure how I would have tore anything. I know my form wasn't awful or anything and I didn't do anything to injure it the past few months. Like I said, this pain only started when I resumed working out after 6 months of inactivity other than working.


e: I do have health insurance now, finally. At what point should I see go see a doctor? I figure I make sure to stretch and foam roll and do all I can to get my flexibility back while going extremely easy about trying to squat. If the pain goes away then I guess I'm good. If it doesn't I guess I should make an appointment?

e2: while it's my left knee that usually a little worse, it's the exact same in both. What are the chances I'd just have randomly snapped ligaments in both knees?

Drunk Driver Dad fucked around with this message at 10:04 on Mar 14, 2016

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
well guys I went to the gym with some work people, and I did deadlift 225x5 and even though I said deadlift doesn't bother my knee like the squatting has lately, it did this time. However my friend had his foam roller so i rolled out my quad/IT band out of curiousity and the pain basically went away within a minute or two and has been fine since. does that mean it's likely tightness or some poo poo or even anything at all? I never had these issues beforehand, only when i started lifting again recently.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
I'm aware, I have one and it worked well when I was lifting last year. It's just now that I started up again, I've completely neglected it until the past day or two, which is the reason I suspected that in the first place. I just wasn't sure about it and was worried anyway.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005

SpeedyCow posted:

Congrats you fully tore your MCL and relieved the pressure. Now onward to gains!

what

e: if you're loving with me good job, i actually googled that and there's no way. not even 1 symptom fits lol. still going with "tightness, and now 30 years old" for now

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005

Dum Cumpster posted:

Hello? Yes. Well I have actual pains and injuries in my body and am hoping the "make gay jokes about the gym" thread can tell me how to fix them. Already tried blowing 9 guys in the sauna. Hoping for new advice. TIA

if you're talking about me i'm mostly just talking about it for the sake of conversation/boredom/like to talk about lifting. I already said if my foam roll/stretch routine doesn't fix it I would go to the doctor.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005

numberoneposter posted:

Spandex. Up and to the left. It's what I do on the bike to avoid crushing my dick and balls.

seriously, it owns for squatting too. In other news, any little bit of gains and muscle I had I basically lost the past 6 months, but it seems to be coming back much faster this second time around. And my little stretch and foam roll routine seems to be making my knee thing go away so i'm feeling pretty good about everything right now. I just need to take care of this minor drinking problem I picked up.....

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
while on the topic of hands and deadlifting, what do you folks thing about hook grip? I have a minor case of carpal tunnel from my new job and sometimes my right wrist hurts when I double overhand. Supinated in a mix grip is fine but I prefer not to use it unless I have to, and hook grip totally eliminates the wrist pain for some reason. It's working fine so far, but I'm still at a pretty light weight(up to 225x5 so far since I started again).

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
my goddamn knee still hurts sometimes at the gym. However I've only seriously been doing some stretching for a few days now, and in a day or two I'm gonna grab a lacrosse ball and actually do the Limber 11 thing to be even more serious about it. I'm pretty sure it actually is only tightness, as doing a couch stretch immediately makes the pain go away. how long does it take stretching to have a lasting effect? when I worked out the first time a year or two ago and had issues with back tightness i seem to remember a good couple of weeks of regular stretching and foam rolling before the problem went away. i guess my frail old body is stubborn

e: fwiw when I started working out the first time, I sat all the time. I remember having mostly hamstring tightness. Now I work 60 and 70 hour weeks and stand all the time and it seems the problem flipped around to the front.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
guys i stretched my knee with the couch stretch about 30 minutes before leaving and also again when I got to the gym and squats and deadlifts totally didn't hurt my knee. looks like i don't have a jacked up rear end msl or what the gently caress ever. i was about to just give up if i couldn't squat

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
I work 11 10's in a row, then 3 off for almost the past year and will continue to do so for the forseeable future. Probably 85% of my eating or more is eating out. I'll never totally swap to cooking everything but I do need to get in the habit of it to save money and a better diet. When you work that much you really really value your free time, but I think I could handle cooking large batches on an off day, or maybe even a slow cooker recipe I can leave on while I"m at work. I actually did just get a crock pot.

edit: I also went up 10 lbs in weight on my face pulls and my shoulder blade area is sore as gently caress. It's almost as bad as leg doms.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005

Rodenthar Drothman posted:

Despite the crossfit label, I'm looking into a better grip (i rarely deadlift with my trainer, so I'll talk to him about it too). I've gripped it more with my fingers before, but I always get dangerously close to dropping the bar / cage because I have (mild) carpal tunnel and therefore I have babby hands.

Maybe I just have to deal with it and grip further towards the fingers.

Although, this may also be because of the temp gloves. I've deadlifted 325 before and didn't come close to shearing the calluses off. The lovely gloves maybe shifted the bar in my hand.

That's weird, I have carpal tunnel and using a hook grip(which from what it feels like to me, puts the bars more in your fingers) is actually much easier on my wrist then in my palms. I'm not an expert or anything though.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
it finally seems as if my knee issues have gone away and I can squat again. I still haven't even gotten around to doing a proper mobility/stretching routine, I just do couch stretch + a couple of hamstring stretches and foam rolling, but seems to have made a huge difference anyway. Also may have been these lovely Nikes with a huge squishy sole, I've been squatting in socks and that helps a lot as well even though it's a bit harder to hit depth that way.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005

soy posted:

Girls are a complete waste of time and T.

pretty sure this post is a ruse, as I always heard soy actually helps to raise estrogen levels

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
Goddamnit, I had a lovely gym session. My knee started hurting again. I've been stretching and foam rolling basically every night, and it seemed the past 2 weeks or so it helped, I could squat again and had worked slowly up to 135 and then tonight my knee started doing it again, before I even put any weight on the bar. I didn't really warm up a lot by stretching right before the workout which maybe is what caused it. I'm not sure, but it bummed me out so bad I didn't even stay to do my upper body. The pain and symptoms basically perfectly match patellofemoral syndrome. I'm hoping maybe I just need to stay on top of the stretching and foam rolling for a while longer. Probably get a real mobility routine, as basically all I have been doing is the couch stretch and a few hamstring stretches plus foam rolling. Going to order a lacrosse ball tonight and start doing the limber 11 routine. If all that doesn't help after a few weeks, I guess I'll make an appointment with a physio.

FWIW before I got this job working a ton of hours on my feet, I literally never had issues with my knees and got up to like 225 on my squats.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005

Zzulu posted:

youu fuckin fartbox, i told you to go see a knee doctoe weeks ago

but you did not listen! now you pay the price!!

yeah maybe. i work like 60 hour weeks every week for almost the past year, doing life is really tough. i'm surprised i've gotten this far. i will see the knee doctor if this issue isn't resolved soon for sure

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005

Syano posted:

when you sit down on the ground, are you able to hyper-extend your knee? A healthy knee joint should be able to hyper extend a bit. You will know you are doing int because your hamstrings will stay on the ground but your heel will come up maybe a half inch or so off the floor.

I was expecting not to be able to from tight hamstrings or something, but yeah I did it no problem. I deadlifted tonight, started to feel that slight twinge in my knee, then stopped and held a couple of stretches for like 30 seconds and was fine. at this point i'm positive it's just tightness and my body is just being stubborn. When I started working out the first time last year, I had bad tight hamstrings and my lower back would hurt from deadlifts. I had thought my form was horrible or something but it turned out to be muscle tightness and it seriously took about a solid 2 or 3 weeks of regular stretching before it seemed to let up for good.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005

Pesmerga posted:

Are you doing any warmup sets, or any walking/running or anything prior to doing your working sets?

I always warm up with the bar and ramp up. For squats it's usually a couple of stretches like a hamstring stretch and the couch stretch, I hold them for 15-25 seconds each. (Although when my knee hurt the other day I slacked off and only did one quick 10 second stretch assuming my weight warmup would suffice). Then when I do that, I start with the empty bar, then 95 lbs, then 115 lbs, then my work weight. When my work weight was lower and I started at 115, it was the bar, 65, 95, then work weight, etc.

But like I said, when I had the knee issue last time, it actually did it on the first warmup with just the bar, so I doubt it's a matter of too much weight. My knee either feels tight, and hurts too much to squat, or it doesn't at all.




E: no walking or running. I workout after a 10 hour shift of walking around all night, so gently caress that. Also I never warmed up by running/walking last year when I lifted and had no issues.


E2: For further clarification, my nightly "mobility drill" is basically just foam rolling my quads, hamstrings, IT band, glutes, back and shoulders, and a couple of hamstring stretches and couch stretch. They had actually seemed to work pretty good, I had gone 2 or 3 workouts squatting with no knee issues. Like I said earlier, I think I just hosed up by skimping on my warmup stretches before the workout that day. Also probably need to do a real mobility routine with more than 2 kinds of stretches. Going to do the Limber 11 thing once I get my lacrosse ball.

Drunk Driver Dad fucked around with this message at 09:37 on Apr 28, 2016

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
Yeah, like I said I'm going to give the stretching and mobility stuff one more try and then I'll see a doctor. It's not a bad pain or anything that feels serious, basically it goes away as soon as I knock off whatever flared it up. And I know I'm no doctor myself but the PFS stuff seems to match my issues perfectly and from what I read stretching is basically the cure for the more minor cases of it because it stems from muscle tightness or imbalance.

e: as far as working out after a 10 hour shift, I can try to maybe go before work but that's honestly what made me quit working out when I got this job. Although I'm used to all the hours now, so it may be easier. I can at least try to do it some days.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
All this steroid talk earlier had me wondering. I don't really want to do any kind of real steroid cycle or anything, but I"m curious about my testosterone levels. I've an opiate addict for several years, and I've been on suboxone for a little over a year now. And opiates are notorious for lowering T levels. I think I'm going to ask my doctor about it next time I see her. she's pretty cool, if she doesn't test me, I'm sure she can help me out to find out about it. If I still have a good level, I'm alright with that, but if I'm running low I wouldn't mind doing something about it.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
woo had a good gym day mostly. I was deadlifting, 225 for my work set and afterward i thought about trying some heavier singles to gauge where my strength is at. long story short, I wound up doing 275. it wasn't perfect at all, basically it went up pretty clean, but i wound up dropping it and rounding my back on the way down about at my knees. which makes sense, last time i was working out, I had an oly platform and I always just let it down real fast about that spot. But with how easy it went up, some practice with that at lower weights should fix it right up. My best PR from the other year was 300, and i really didn't expect to be anywhere close to that this fast.

Also, no knee issues during any of that or during my goblet squats. Guessing stretching and foam rolling has helped it.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
hey bros, what are some good stretches to help with tightness in the really low back area? Sort of bending over and tilting my hips helps a little but I feel I need a better stretch sometimes. After my last dead lift shenanigans, on top of having to pack 20+ pound coils at work 4 days in a row, I had almost thought I injured myself, but it was definitely just tightness. The only stretch I know of is where you grab a solid base and do a sort of squat where you tuck your rear end in, but it isn't all that great.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
hey guys, my knee acted up for the first time in like 2 weeks tonight. I got bummed out and left the gym, it doesn't hurt bad at all, so it may still be getting better but still, I want to get it fixed asap. my only question is which is the best type of specialist to see in regards to this stuff and lifting? a physiotherapist? sports medicine doctor? Do I need a regular doctor rec or can you book appointments straight with them?

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005

abgushte badamjan posted:

Roll and stretch your glutes/hips, Google pigeon pose

Thanks, also thanks to the guy who posted the other one above this one. Too soon to tell, but I'm not sure if they helped well or not yet. My really low back, close to where it meets my glutes feels really tight, mostly upon waking up, and works itself out as the nights(when I'm working) go on. I have a foam roller, but just a regular cheap one and it doesn't really get into my glutes well. I did however, order a lacrosse ball, and I'm going to start doing limber 11 at least once, maybe twice daily. I really hope that fixes this, and my knee issue(also this seems to be getting better, it's really arbitrary about when it happens).

Another thing that may be weird, how does it feel when you guys dig real hard into your glutes with a ball/foam roller? I was using one of those spiky foam rollers the other day, and while it did work better than my smooth one, it was less the sore feeling you get when you roll sore quads and more almost a digging into a nerve feeling(I also sometimes get that feeling when I move around when my low back is sore, maybe a nerve is being compressed somewhere by the tightness?). I continued, and it still seemed to help overall, it was just odd.

I've also developed a tendency to roll over and go back to sleep on my back in the mornings when I wake up here and there, I normally sleep on my side.


I'm probably still going to go see a dr soon, but it'll be a week or two because of life stuff.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
I just back back from the gym. Back still feels about the same, but I may have discovered(or not) the cause of my knee issues. I guess working this job has changed my body dynamics a bit and my hamstrings aren't as tight as they used to be, which means I wasn't do a very good job of sitting back and loading glutes and hammies when I squat. I made sure to do that this time, and had no knee issues at all, but it's obviously still too early to know if that's the case, as the pain has occurred rather arbitrarily(but definitely less frequently since i've been trying to stretch and foam roll it away)


On the lovely side, any good feelings from my workout tonight got hosed up by the worst exertion headache I've ever had. Not only is it hurting my head, it built what feels like pressure up in my ears and they hurt like hell too. I need to stop drinking so much, I'd bet thats not helping any of these issues I'm having.

Drunk Driver Dad fucked around with this message at 04:14 on May 15, 2016

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
Also, I'll look into the SI thing in a bit, still got that headache and it's making concentrating difficult.

Yeah, I hate to say it, but I've been drinking anywhere from 2-5 beers every single night the past few months. Maybe I'll swap to red wine and just have like 2 glasses a night for a bit, then cut down to one.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
I googled SI joint stuff and most of the symptoms don't really match up. The pain doesn't really radiate or anything. It just feels exactly like tight muscles down there. You can feel the pain when curving my lower back, the part of cat cow where you tilt your hips up(posterior) I can feel the muscles don't like being pulled on. Also, as before, it almost seems as if this is just how they are up on waking up. Whether I hadn't lifted in a few days, or did it still feels the same. Also normally after I've been moving for a while, I can just barely bend over with neutral knees and touch my toes, but I come several inches short when I wake up with this, also leading me to believe it may just be my body acting like an old bitch as I sleep and getting tight.

My lacross ball should be here tomorrow, but I may go ahead and run through limber 11 today and just use my foam roller the best I can for those parts.


e: my mom who is over 50 and still regularly runs full marathons showed me some stretches she does that hit glutes and back and that whole area. My lower back tightness immediately felt a good deal of relief so I take it as a good sign it was indeed just my old tight(soon to be thick and solid) body rather than my vertebrae all about to shatter and shoot discs out everywhere.

Drunk Driver Dad fucked around with this message at 23:15 on May 15, 2016

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
I can still deadlift almost 300 lbs, that's not too bad for a skinnyfat twig man. But I imagine I'd have less injuries and faster growth if I cut down to 1 drink a day of red wine(for the health benefits of course!)

My diet is another matter altogether. I was planning on putting together a whole grocery list, but had some crazy apartment issues with water coming out of light fixtures so I had to cut power off to everything but my bedroom for a while. Got it fixed and now I"m working on getting everything clean, it's trashed bad.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
my knee sleeves came in and they seem to make a big difference, though it's still too early to decide for sure. My knees had already started acting up by the time I even left work, and normally that would have been a no go on any squat at all, but the sleeves made it painless(mostly, there was still a slight twinge, but they felt better overall by the end of the gym session).

what's the best protocol for sleeves? use them only when I feel my knee acting weird? use them for work sets for a while? basically I'm asking, do they help enough with the actual squat work to cause any sort of imbalance or weakness if used too much? these are just like the neoprene or whatever the rubbery wetsuit type material is, not like a full brace.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005

exquisite tea posted:

I gave up trying to squat heavy with the amount that I run and my body has thanked me for it, now my knees don't always feel like they're about to explode. Really miss putting a good hurt on dat rear end though.

Well, I don't think that's my problem. My knee thing has honestly seemed really arbitrary. There has been nights where I can grind out 5 reps and they feel great, then another night they start up while I"m still squatting just the bar, and in between. Although, as I said in another post, since I've been trying some stretches and stuff, it's still arbitrary like that, but definitely less frequent. Could lovely shoes be the culprit? I mean I'm on my feet way more than most people ,and some nights, like tonight, I spent a fair amount of time moving and turning around carrying 30 lb coils. The reason I ask is either way, they are lovely shoes because they have chafed and callused the poo poo out of my heels, so I'm getting a new pair soon, either way. Another thing to test out, I may try going to the gym when I wake up, instead of after a 10 hour shift, but getting up early is harder for me than working out after a long shift. I'm trying to think of a time my knees ever hurt when I lifted on an off day, and I can't think of one.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005

Rodenthar Drothman posted:

lovely shoes can DEFINITELY do that to you. If you're on your feet you need to make sure you have good shoes, and even get good gel insoles.

I remember when I started up a 10-hour shift machine operator job, after a couple weeks I was in AGONY whenever I had weight on my feet - until I got good work boots and gel insoles.

3 years and a geotech/environmental job late (some 12 hour shifts, on the feet, etc) - I have never regretted paying extra for good boots and good insoles.

Do you or anyone have and good recommendations? For the most part I'm not really in danger of dropping anything heavy on my feet, so I'm not sure if I should go with something lighter and tennis shoe like, or a work boot. I suppose whatever has the best support for the dollar. I would be willing to drop maybe up to 80-100 bucks, maybe a few more for an insole if they actually help. I don't think I necessarily need a lifting shoe right now, as lifting in socks feels pretty decent to me so far. Just something for being on my feet 50-70 hours a week at work. Right now I have a pair of Nikes that are loving my feet up, so I have no idea how to tell what shoe will be good, even trying them on because you won't know what fucks your poo poo up until you wear them all those hours.

I also came up with the theory that maybe keeping my legs straight so much could have an impact, so anytime I'm doing something that doesn't require constant moving, I may use a stool and alternate putting a knee up on it to alleviate some pressure on my knees/feet.


e: also deadlifted 235x5 tonight, and my knee sleeves seem to still be helping a ton.

Drunk Driver Dad fucked around with this message at 09:45 on May 19, 2016

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005

sassassin posted:

235kg is respectable even with knee sleeves aka cheating

the sleeves absolutely don't make the weight feel any lighter or me any stronger. if my option is use the sleeves, or stop deadlifting/squatting, well the answer is obvious, but even if they continue to help i will eventually try to ween myself of them.

and enough about your girlfriends weight as well.


also my knees and everything felt great today for some reason, despite the fact i was tired yesterday and didn't bother with any post workout stretching/mobility. I did however go to bed about 1.5 hours earlier, so maybe i just need some more sleep

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
could the lower back pain/tightness i've been bitching about be a hip issue? the pain is really low, like say 4-6 inches above my tailbone. i've heard about SI joint, but it didn't seem like symptops of that really matched up but it's hard to say. i still want to see a doctor soon when i get my insurance straightened out, but kind of overwhelmed on how to go about it. heard chiros can be decent at this thing, but also they are quacks. GPs are real doctors but also heard they frequently don't know a lot when it comes to lifting and tell you to just take it easy and not do stuff that makes it worse. But I may have to get a recommendation from a GP to see a sports med doctor. UGHHHH I just want to lift. And I still am pretty sure this has more to do with my job than anything I"m doing lifting.

I think I"m going to start trying to go before work even though I hate it.


e: I dunno if this is a good indicator of whats going on, but when the low back/hip issue is acting up, like when I wake up, if I try to do that stretch wwhere you sit on the floor with your legs spread straight and stretch forward with your hand, I can barely even sit up straight to get it started. Whenever I'm more loose(when I'm not dealing with the pain) I can stretch forward pretty far no problem.

Drunk Driver Dad fucked around with this message at 02:53 on May 23, 2016

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
I should have enough when I get paid thursday to drop some money on some workboots. Also what about a doctor? Should I just see a regular GP to start with? I don't really have a family doctor, whenever I get a flu or something I just go to the local family clinic. Would a chiro actually hurt? I doubt he'll want to snap my neck or anything, but still. I'm a little paranoid I may have injured a disc, but the pain definitely feels muscular so I dunno. Its just really discouraging dealing with all this bullshit when I just want to lift. Either way, I think it would be a good idea to just take a break from squats and deadlifts for a couple weeks. Definitely won't hurt anything, my upper body always liked to lag behind lower body so this will be a good chance to catch up. I'd just really hate if it turned out to be a serious issue that stopped me from doing that for good.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
well guys, the doctor deal is gonna have to be put on hold for a while as I have a tooth emergency. back when I was a dopey man i didn't take care of my teeth and the back ones, the wisdom teeth are all hosed up and I broke one off at the gum, so I'm going to have to put what meager savings I have to take care of that, although I do have decent Dental, so hopefully it won't be too bad.

In the meantime, I'm going to take a break from squats and deads, I think I mentioned that earlier. My back and knee felt pretty decent today though, so hopefully that's a sign its nothing too serious. I'm going to focus mostly upper body and channel my bicep curl bro in the meantime. However, is there anything I can do for my legs that aren't as taxing as a squat or deadlift I can do to just sort of keep what strength/muscle I do have in my lower body up? Maybe light leg press? The little I messed with that it seemed to not bother my knee at all. Hack Squats? Perhaps some goblet squats with say 20-40 lb dumbells?

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Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
I think the back deal was maybe just a muscle strain. It already feels tons better. Guess I just need to stop working out after grueling rear end shifts.

e: and I don't have a dip belt but we do have back braces at work....which I should probably at least start wearing while I'm at work and throwing around heavy poo poo all night. Am I crazy for remember research showing they don't help, or am I just confusing that with lifting belts not making lifts safer?

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