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Zetsubou-san
Jan 28, 2015

Cruel Bifaunidas demanded that you [stand]🧍 I require only that you [kneel]🧎
had no problems with the cutscene audio

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Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011

:frogsiren:
The looters aren't as bad as the rear end in a top hat Cultists from Dead Rising 1 though, the cultists always hung around in groups and would suicide bomb you when they got low on health, they were the worst.

Fire Barrel
Mar 28, 2010

Judge Tesla posted:

The looters aren't as bad as the rear end in a top hat Cultists from Dead Rising 1 though, the cultists always hung around in groups and would suicide bomb you when they got low on health, they were the worst.

Cultists were annoying, but those mini-chainsaws still made them pretty easy to deal with.

And seeing this makes me wish they kept all of them as fun and ridiculous as the first. Chuck Greene and Nick Ramos just aren't as fun as Frank West.

Drakenel
Dec 2, 2008

The glow is a guide, my friend. Though it falls to you to avert catastrophe, you will never fight alone.

Fire Barrel posted:

Cultists were annoying, but those mini-chainsaws still made them pretty easy to deal with.

And seeing this makes me wish they kept all of them as fun and ridiculous as the first. Chuck Greene and Nick Ramos just aren't as fun as Frank West.

Another part of it is that the first dead rising the fully embraced the stereotypes and the b-movie feel for extra corniness. Subsequent games... not so much.

I mean, thank god for dead rising 2 and its co-op. Greeting my friends by throwing phallic objects at their face is a staple of our gaming experience now. The series isn't really meant to be played straight, and dead rising 3 is really awkward for it.

Fire Barrel
Mar 28, 2010

Drakenel posted:

Another part of it is that the first dead rising the fully embraced the stereotypes and the b-movie feel for extra corniness. Subsequent games... not so much.

I mean, thank god for dead rising 2 and its co-op. Greeting my friends by throwing phallic objects at their face is a staple of our gaming experience now. The series isn't really meant to be played straight, and dead rising 3 is really awkward for it.

I almost feel as though they were trying to tap into the same market that likes stuff like The Walking Dead, which seems really misguided. I'm not really a fan of zombie stuff, especially if its trying to be super serious, or its lingering popularity, but I always liked the silliness of Dead Rising. After seeing how well DR2: OTR runs, though, I may check it out on the PC when it goes on sale. For some reason I was under the impression this game had tons of optimization issues.

Also happy to see the photography stuff back in, since I actually liked that part of the first game.

Steelpudding
Apr 21, 2010

I've got Balls of Steel!

Fire Barrel posted:

And seeing this makes me wish they kept all of them as fun and ridiculous as the first. Chuck Greene and Nick Ramos just aren't as fun as Frank West.

Man, the dual-chainsaw wielding clown psychopath was the best thing ever I've seen in games, or anything else for that matter.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

So for anyone curious, Zombie Go Boom actually made a nail-studded baseball bat to test on a plastic skull!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJb59bNClXw

Unfortunately, it's not quite as wondrous as its many video game appearances would suggest.

biosterous
Feb 23, 2013




Aw dammit I already said this looks fun but I forgot to say that this isn't Alan Wake.

*ahem*

"This isn't Alan Wake, CJacobs!!"

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

biosterous posted:

Aw dammit I already said this looks fun but I forgot to say that this isn't Alan Wake.

*ahem*

"This isn't Alan Wake, CJacobs!!"

It's coming neeeeeexttttt :negative:

Steelpudding posted:

Man, the dual-chainsaw wielding clown psychopath was the best thing ever I've seen in games, or anything else for that matter.

Oh boy, you're gonna love this then, because this game adds some pretty special brand new psychos that weren't in the standard Dead Rising 2!

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Assuming nobody minds it, I'm going to keep posting Zombie Go Boom videos whenever they're relevant to the current gameplay. As annoying as they can be sometimes, they're a cathartic blood splatter show and reveal some interesting properties of various weapons, including some Dead Rising-esque joke weapons like throwing vinyl records or rolls of Christmas wrapping paper.

For instance, to honor the now fallen broadsword, here's the founder of Cold Steel using a two-handed broadsword on one of their more advanced targets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou3CMaM7UaQ

chitoryu12 fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Mar 7, 2016

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

CJacobs posted:

It's coming neeeeeexttttt :negative:

Yeah, because you need to have even more LPs running.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
It's coming neeeeeexttttt after RE4/The Evil Within finiiiiiiissshhh :negative: :negative:

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Also, I had a familiar feeling watching that video of the Cold Steel great sword and pulled out one of my many books on historical weaponry. It's extremely close to a real Thirty Years War parade sword in the book, but with a practical blade meant for cutting instead of a wavy "flame" blade that just looks cool.

Fire Barrel
Mar 28, 2010

chitoryu12 posted:

Also, I had a familiar feeling watching that video of the Cold Steel great sword and pulled out one of my many books on historical weaponry. It's extremely close to a real Thirty Years War parade sword in the book, but with a practical blade meant for cutting instead of a wavy "flame" blade that just looks cool.

Very nerdy, but cold steel stuff isn't really accurate to historical pieces, though some of their videos are certainly weird enough to watch. Some antique dealers and collectors I follow say that CS has improved at least in some regards though. The Scholagladiatoria Channel is run by an author, Victorian sabre dealer, and HEMA instructor that has lots of good info on this stuff (including those wavy bladed weapons).

As far as the game is concerned, I think another fun thing about DR1 and the bits I've played of 2 is that they encourage you to play around with weapons. When I was trying to go for certain objectives I'd load up on those mini-saws in DR1, but there were tons of options that were viable even if you were just trying to finish the game. Also, there enough options to go around that you could just save guns to help make certain survivor escort missions easier, which really helped balance out the sub-par AI and pathing.

Looking forward to seeing more of OTR.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Fire Barrel posted:

Very nerdy, but cold steel stuff isn't really accurate to historical pieces, though some of their videos are certainly weird enough to watch. Some antique dealers and collectors I follow say that CS has improved at least in some regards though. The Scholagladiatoria Channel is run by an author, Victorian sabre dealer, and HEMA instructor that has lots of good info on this stuff (including those wavy bladed weapons).

Oh yeah, they're definitely not perfect 15th century katana replicas or anything (though their stuff is definitely legit and their swords work as swords, not display pieces made of cheap stainless steel). It's just that the whole shape of the great sword, from the half-grip with the extra guard to the blunt tip (designed for hacking rather than stabbing), is a very close replica to this particular parade sword. Cold Steel just had a practical blade shape instead of the useless wave.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
Nearly double-length episode today because I couldn't find a good cut point. So enjoy that, I guess!



A losing battle, day by day.

StupidSexyMothman
Aug 9, 2010

The Chuck fight is really weird in that guns are worthless, but it's totally counter-intuitive to try to melee fight a guy on a motorcycle, let alone one with chainsaws strapped to the handlebars. It just seems like the developers had a cool idea in mind and couldn't figure out a way to actually implement it without making the players hop the fence over & over until Chuck's bike got stuck on level geometry long enough for Frank to run up and wail on him.

Shei-kun
Dec 2, 2011

Screw you, physics!
Katey :(

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

oldskool posted:

The Chuck fight is really weird in that guns are worthless, but it's totally counter-intuitive to try to melee fight a guy on a motorcycle, let alone one with chainsaws strapped to the handlebars. It just seems like the developers had a cool idea in mind and couldn't figure out a way to actually implement it without making the players hop the fence over & over until Chuck's bike got stuck on level geometry long enough for Frank to run up and wail on him.

What you're supposed to do is wait for Chuck to do that 360 spin, because after that he does a beeline charge right at wherever you're standing. If he misses you he'll run into whatever you're standing in front of and get stunned for a bit, which gives you a chance to hit him. The bike physics are a little wonky so it's easy for him to get stuck, at which point he'll switch to the molotovs.


:smith:

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!
It's okay, CJacobs, there will be other games that give you dead childrenloot pinatas to smash open.

Gnoman
Feb 12, 2014

Come, all you fair and tender maids
Who flourish in your pri-ime
Beware, take care, keep your garden fair
Let Gnoman steal your thy-y-me
Le-et Gnoman steal your thyme




I find an inventory full of sniper rifles to do well in the Chuck fight. The damage is still kind of low, but you do (IIRC) get bonus damage for headshots, and keeping your distance does wonders for keeping you from getting hit.



Chuck's probably one of the best done psychpaths in the series. Nothing about his vanilla DR2 character is changed in the slightest, but this time Katey didn't make it (as seen from her bloody backpack and Unidentified Handheld Gaming Device at the start) and he snapped.

biosterous
Feb 23, 2013




RIP sad dad :(

Pretty neat to see another side of an established character, though. Considering some of the combo weapons Chuck makes, though, I'm not surprised that without Katie grounding him he went right off the deep end.

(Frank just makes the weapons because he thinks it will be cool)

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

It's intriguing that guns are so weak. I know they wanted to make wacky melee weapons and combo weapons the centerpiece, but it may have been better to leave guns or ammo as rarities.

Shotguns are especially painful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX3z5jI4vXs

Fwoderwick
Jul 14, 2004

Well they're pretty good for zombie crowd control. I may be mixing up my pro strats here but I'm sure one of the better methods of clearing a swarmed survivor is to unload a shotgun in their general direction.

And there are definitely some psychopaths for whom wading in like you're auditioning for Commando: The Musical is a very viable tactic.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPfYikiisjk

value-brand cereal
May 2, 2008

Alas, poor Katie, I knew her..... :(

Croccers
Jun 15, 2012
So this means Bubsy 2 on the actual SNES then right?

Sally
Jan 9, 2007


Don't post Small Dash!
it means bubsy 3d on the actual playstation or jaguar or whatever console it was released on...

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

Blind Sally posted:

it means bubsy 3d on the actual playstation or jaguar or whatever console it was released on...
Ideally wired up so it gives an electric shock whenever he dies.

Sally
Jan 9, 2007


Don't post Small Dash!
also whenever he moves the joystick. or presses a button.








or breathes.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
Now that'd just be mindless torture. What I had in mind was training him to play better and spare him the suffering of spending too much time in this twisted nightmare of a game. It's for his own good.
Your suggestion does express the spirit of Bubsy perfectly though.

liquidypoo
Aug 23, 2006

Chew on that... you overgrown son of a bitch.

Frank, you don't need to search for Zombrex anymore! I'm a doctor.




Not actually a doctor

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

liquidypoo posted:

Frank, you don't need to search for Zombrex anymore! I'm a doctor.




Not actually a doctor

You know how I know you're not a doctor? I can read your handwriting.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

liquidypoo posted:

Frank, you don't need to search for Zombrex anymore! I'm a doctor.




Not actually a doctor

I really love that Please write legibly. You can hear the pain underlying the request. That prescription pad was made by a man who knows the pain of being unable to read the drat form. I guessing former pharmacist.

Also I really want that pen.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

liquidypoo posted:

Frank, you don't need to search for Zombrex anymore! I'm a doctor.




Not actually a doctor

:five:

Zetsubou-san
Jan 28, 2015

Cruel Bifaunidas demanded that you [stand]🧍 I require only that you [kneel]🧎
The Dead Rising series is having a discount weekend on Steam, OTR is 70% off! This is almost as exciting as a capture card!

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



CJacobs posted:

Nearly double-length episode today because I couldn't find a good cut point. So enjoy that, I guess!



A losing battle, day by day.

I found this segment surprisingly sad when I played the game.
It had to be this way.

Drakenel
Dec 2, 2008

The glow is a guide, my friend. Though it falls to you to avert catastrophe, you will never fight alone.

Zetsubou-san posted:

The Dead Rising series is having a discount weekend on Steam, OTR is 70% off! This is almost as exciting as a capture card!

Well I'll be damned, I was wanting it too. Thanks for the heads up

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
Hey you, I was in another episode of CirclMastr's Just Cause 2 LP that you should go watch because it's a lot of fun! Many things explode set to such glorious fanfare as complaining about lovely teammate AI and how Peter Dinklage would make a perfect candidate for president of Panau.

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bassguitarhero
Feb 29, 2008

I cant believe Frank doesnt say "i've covered zombie outbreaks, you know"

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