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Do the witnesses ever get punished or called out for lying in court? I mean seriously. That is a crime, and being caught lying repeatedly should really harm your credibility as a witness.
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Elric posted:Do the witnesses ever get punished or called out for lying in court? I mean seriously. That is a crime, and being caught lying repeatedly should really harm your credibility as a witness. People get called out for it. Punished, I'm not so sure, but definitely called out.
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Jun 2, 2016 03:17
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Edgeworth keeps insulting Phoenix like Phoenix doesn't have a 100% success rate against him.
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On the other hand, please assume anything that doesn't result in an actual penalty is the canonical thing Phoenix says when the option to be an idiot several times before picking the correct option comes up. (Not that he doesn't say plenty of stupid poo poo besides at those times, too.)
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Everyone in this court does stupid or shady things. Witnesses, the prosecution, the defense, the judge, the audience, it gets pretty ridiculous at times. Also, given how much leeway you have with penalties, you can voice a few outrageous blunders and still win the case. They're still canonical 
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Elric posted:Do the witnesses ever get punished or called out for lying in court? I mean seriously. That is a crime, and being caught lying repeatedly should really harm your credibility as a witness. Considering Mister Redd White was just about to walk out of the court unchallenged after his testimony had not the list of those he blackmailed was read out in court...not especially.
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I think perjury is brought up a couple times, but I guess it's not an issue because the witnesses usually end up telling the truth anyway or are a murderer.
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I've always wanted a spinoff game where you play as Edgeworth and prosecute literally everyone for perjury.
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There are spin-offs staring Edgeworth, but he hasn't gotten anyone to the trial stage, so no perjury for him to use.
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Only his mighty superpower: Logic!
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Perjury is basically expected in AA-land.
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Most of Redd White's testimonies were basically "You mentioned this thing you could only know if you were the murderer!" "Oh hold on I remembered incorrectly! Thanks for jarring my memory! Now let me revise my testimony."
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Case 3 - Turnabout Samurai Trial (Day 3) - Part 2      : Court is back in session for the trial of Mr. Will Powers. : The prosecution has a concern. As our witness is a grade schooler of tender years, and this is a murder case... We worry that the defense might cause unnecessary trauma with his cruel questioning! : (Nice to see Edgeworth taking the moral high ground...): However, we have no choice. The prosecution calls Cody Hackins to the stand. : Your Honor. Perhaps you could arrange a box for him to stand on? : Oh, r-right.: Guard, please bring him a box. One of those donut crates should do. : Will the witness state his name and grade in school. : ...  : Witness!: What!? Just 'cause you're all grown-up don't mean you can push me around! : Mrph... : Cody? Answer his question, okay? : H-hey, it's you! The nice lady! I'm Cody Hackins. I'm in 2nd grade!: (I get the feeling this is going to be a long, long day.) : Mr. Edgeworth. Please remember that you're speaking to a child. Try to be gentle.: M-mrrrrph!: Witness! Er, I mean, Cody.: (He's having trouble with this "gentle" thing.): You were present, er, you were at Global Studios on the day of the, er, incident? : You got a problem with that!?: Please tell us what you saw that day.: What, pops? You want me to tell you and gramps with the beard over there?: Just... Mr. Edgeworth will be fine.: I prefer "bearded gentleman" myself.: (A very long day...): Incidentally,: photographic equipment is strictly forbidden in this courtroom.: M-mpht!: M-my apologies, Your Honor. He said he wouldn't testify if he couldn't bring it... I'd like special permission, if that's possible.: Wait, so you're saying you had to bargain terms with a kid... and you LOST?  : Don't really know how to use it all that good yet! But I bring it with me wherever I go! : Phoenix. I wonder if he had that camera on the day of the murder... You'd better make a note of it in the Court Record. : Very well, Cody.: Please testify to the court about what you saw the day of the incident.             : Hmm...: Very well. The defense may begin its cross-examination.: And, be gentle. Remember you're talking to a child. : ...: (This kid is tougher than most adults we see in here, honestly...)    : You really like the Steel Samurai, huh?: Course I do! : And I go to all the live performances!: That's impressive. : Have you been to the amusement park?: Course! Duh!: My Dad always takes me!: (Poor, poor Dad...) : Was that day the first time you'd been to the studio?: Uh, actually I've been a couple of times. I never manage to get there on a rehearsal day!: And that security lady's always yelling...: Right, right. Please continue.: Chill, pops! I'm getting to it!: How am I supposed to talk with you cuttin' me off all the time? Geez!: ... : "Off the path"...?: Yeah, you know how the studios are in a valley there?  : I see.: Anyhow... : Did anything unusual happen on your way to the studio?: "Unusual"? : Oh, you mean Mr. Monkey? Yeah I saw him, but his head wasn't busted! : So you went straight to the studio? : You got lost in the woods?: Yeah. I couldn't figure out which way I was walking.: Man, was I relieved when I saw the blue studio doors.: But guess what happened next!  : The Steel Samurai?: Yeah, he was standing by the studio gate. It looked like he was thinking about something before going in. Then he opened up the gate and went inside.: I see. What then? : What sort of "bad guy" was it?: A guy. A person. Kinda tall. Skinny.: Are you sure it was a guy?: ... I dunno. He was kinda far away.: (Huh, he's being awfully vague...): ... : What happened to the bad guy?: Huh?: Well...: Well, he kinda didn't move. Not a bit. Like he was dead.: I-I guess he's a real pro! What a great actor!: Y-yes, I suppose he was. : "If" you had your camera? You mean, you weren't carrying your camera then?: N-no, I wasn't.: I-it's not like I have it all the time!: (Really...?)And we loop. : (I guess seeing the killing freaked him out and he went home...): Phoenix. Remember, he's a child. : Use gentle words... but be firm.: (Easy for you to say...)Can you spot it?   : Cody, what you just said seems, well, a little strange. : Didn't you say before that you always bring your digital camera wherever you go?: You were quite clear about that.  : Cody, you shouldn't lie here. You understand that, right? : Mr. Wright! A word with you...: (Uh oh... was I putting the pressure on too much?): What is this "digital" camera contraption you're talking about?: It's umm... a digital camera, Your Honor.: It's kind of a new sort of camera. (How do I explain that!?): I see.: Anyway, Cody... : I can't believe you wouldn't bring your camera on a trip to the studios!: You did bring it, didn't you? : Mr. Wright! How cruel you are, to terrorize a poor child so!: I don't care if he's a child or a prosecuting attorney! No one should lie in court!: What do you mean "or a prosecuting attorney"!?: Well, Cody?: Wh-what! Yeah, so I had my camera. So what!?: You got a problem with that!? : So, you did have a camera? And did you use this camera?: W-why would I use it?: I... I was too busy watching.: Hmm...: Very well. Please testify to the court about what you were so busy watching.      : Hmm...: Ah? Is that all?: Well, that was brief.: Mr. Wright, your cross-examination.  : So, why didn't you use it?: He's getting to that! Relax and listen.: Umm...: I didn't use it 'cause I was too busy watching the real thing! : So you were watching the Steel Samurai. Did you watch the whole fight?: Y-yeah, of course!: You didn't turn away, not even once?: N... no!: Okay, then tell us exactly what happened.: Y-yeah! I'm getting to that! : So the bad guy attacked him first?: Yeah!: What sort of person was this "bad guy"?: I told you, a person. He was a person.: How was he dressed?: ... I kinda don't remember. I was too busy watching the Steel Samurai!: I see. And what happened next? : Why?: Huh? Whaddya mean, "why"?: Why wasn't the bad guy moving?: W-well 'cause the Steel Samurai brought him to justice!: And how exactly did he do that?  : (He's still being vague about this...): What! Don't gimme that look, pops! Just for now. : (Yeah... If I press too hard now, the judge might keep me from continuing.): (I'll sit back and see how the rest of this goes.) : What did you do after the bad guy fell, Cody?: ... Um, actually... The fight was so... so intense that I got kinda scared. So I went straight home.: (Something isn't adding up here...)And we loop. : (Something about his account doesn't seem right...): Phoenix. It doesn't seem right because he's being deliberately vague! Press him on the facts, Phoenix! Find out what he saw!So, back to that thing above.  : Cody.: Wh-what!?: Something's bothering me. Before you said that you "couldn't take your eyes off" the action.: Y-yeah? So what?: Yet you missed the most important part! : What is the meaning of this? The witness has stated what he saw quite clearly...: You know as well as I do that he's being vague!   : M-mmph!: My point is this: Cody, you may have seen some of the Steel Samurai's fight...: But you missed the most important part: the killing blow!: Order! Order! Mr. Wright! How could this be? Can you explain how he might have missed something so vital? : Um, well... er, that's the thing...: Phoenix! I believe you're on the right track with this!: Think: why didn't Cody see the climax of the fight? I know you! You can figure this out!: Mr. Wright, your answer! We have ascertained that this young boy is a great fan of the Steel Samurai...  : Because he couldn't watch it! How could he calmly watch a murder taking place at his age!: Just a moment, please...: One thing has become quite clear in this boy's testimony. He did not believe he was witnessing a murder! He was watching the Steel Samurai fight, like on TV.: The more real the fight, the more he would have watched!: Umm... huh.: I have to agree with Mr. Edgeworth. Well, Mr. Wright. Do you have another explanation? We have ascertained that this young boy is a great fan of the Steel Samurai... Why wouldn't he watch the climax of the fight? : He missed the climax of the fight...: Because he was looking at something else! Probably!: "Probably"?: "Something else"?: Mr. Wright, explain yourself! What could possibly distract this boy from seeing his idol, the Steel Samurai, fight!?: What do you claim he was looking at?: O-ooof! (C'mon, think of something... think of something... Nothing.): Mr. Wright! Please refrain from making baseless claims!: Y-yes... Sorry, Your Honor.: Do you have another explanation? We have ascertained that this young boy is a great fan of the Steel Samurai... Why wouldn't he watch the climax of the fight? : Your Honor, I have evidence.: "Evidence"...?: Yes, Your Honor. Next time: Do you know why? 18 U.S.C. Section 7 posted:The term "special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United State," as used in this title includes: Mors Rattus fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Jun 4, 2016 |
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Mors Rattus posted:
Minor correction.
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Mors Rattus posted:
: Bailiff? You want to explain why the witness is armed with a samurai sword?: To...uh...pro...protect himself?: Sure, what the hell. Proceed.
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Jun 4, 2016 16:08
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The way Cody is animated I always thought the 'sword' was actually some kind of elastic band.
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Added Space posted:The way Cody is animated I always thought the 'sword' was actually some kind of elastic band.
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Oh hey, one I don't remember at all, so I can actually speculate safely! Except that this isn't really speculation since it's pretty obvious. I went back to look at the previous page, to remind myself of what evidence descriptions we have, and Cody's photo book is a pretty clear "Here, you need to use this one" hint. "Contains photos of every victory scene in every battle the Steel Samurai has won." He didn't see the final blow, because he was too busy looking through the viewfinder of his camera. Which means that we will now get photo evidence of the moment of the murder itself... assuming the photo is still on his camera and hasn't, say, been deleted by an over-zealous security lady.
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kw0134 posted:He's too short to pull the sword clean out the scabbard, so he can never unsheathe it, is how I see it. This is what I always thought, too.
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kw0134 posted:He's too short to pull the sword clean out the scabbard, so he can never unsheathe it, is how I see it. The reason movies and TV always cut out the 'sheathe from the back' is because for any kind of average sized sword you physically cant. Also the witness testimony conflicts with the cause of death. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 12:44 on Jun 5, 2016 |
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Cangelosi posted:
Also, would you give a kid a real samurai sword? It's probably just plastic.
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LifeofaGuardian posted:Also, would you give a kid a real samurai sword? It's probably just plastic. This is Japanifornia. It'll probably become a murder weapon.
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Elric posted:This is Japanifornia. It'll probably become a murder weapon. But does it tell the time?
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I think it's...murder o'clock
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Hmm. My first guess would be the monkey head - the timing is a little ambiguous as to when Cody saw that it was still intact. If he 'got lost' somehow after that, it's irrelevant, but if he got lost before it and saw the monkey soon before witnessing the fight, then the timing is off. It could be that the case spirals off into something like Powers sleepwalking, and the killing blow was done by someone else who managed to dodge the camera. If not that, probably his photobook. It's possible he took a photo of the fight before finding out that it wasn't in the schedule; or if not, the victim was in full Evil Magistrate costume. He wouldn't just be a guy, "kinda tall, skinny;" Cody would know who it was and how he was dressed, since the Evil Magistrate would be all over that photobook. The fight might have been against someone else - the killer, perhaps. If Powers was drugged up to his eyeballs in sleeping pills, he might not remember trying to fight the actual killer if there was a third party there.
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As someone who's already played the games, I just wanna say I really enjoy watching people theorise.
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SirSamVimes posted:As someone who's already played the games, I just wanna say I really enjoy watching people theorise. Same here. The theories can be pretty interesting.
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Agreed on the theories, it's helping bring back my memories of the cases so far.
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The limp hasn't come into play yet has it? Outside of identification I mean?
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Most of Redd White's testimonies were basically "You mentioned this thing you could only know if you were the murderer!" "Oh hold on I remembered incorrectly! Thanks for jarring my memory! Now let me revise my testimony." Not like the prosecution hasn't pulled this stuff before: Edgeworth's second autopsy report, anyone?  I've played through all of the games in the series available in English except for AA2, but I'll keep quiet so you can all enjoy the amazing turnabouts appropriately. I'm following this LP, for sure.  Great work!
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CryingAthena posted:Not like the prosecution hasn't pulled this stuff before: Edgeworth's second autopsy report, anyone? Yeah, I left a big fat rant on that the last pass-through.
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Leif. posted:The limp hasn't come into play yet has it? Outside of identification I mean? I think the photo album is going to be the piece of evidence that outs Cody's latest lie but I wanna say the limp is gonna be the lynchpin of our whole cross-examination. Surely an obsessive fan like him would notice something out of the ordinary like an injury. Heck, I would have expected someone to convince him to play it up since it would be even more badass if his hero was injured and still beat the bad guy.
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We wouldn't have got that photo album if we weren't meant to use it!
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Don't forget the actual question we're answering is why Cody looked away from the fight.
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whitehelm posted:Don't forget the actual question we're answering is why Cody looked away from the fight. After all, the main thing we've been trying to prove in this trial is that someone else was in the costume other than Powers, and Hammer would know all about Powers' injury. Could be why Cody didn't take a photo - he only records the victories (or maybe couldn't stand to see his hero lose). He just didn't realise the fight wasn't staged. Although I have no idea why Hammer would be dressing up in that costume and pretending to be Powers (even effecting the limp for the benefit of the camera).
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Yvonmukluk posted:There's one explanation that does come to mind. What if the Steel Samurai lost? If it was Hammer disguising himself then that would mean he would have been the one to drug Powers, possibly trying to frame him for something else and got stabbed doing it?
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Case 3 - Turnabout Samurai Trial (Day 3) - Part 3 So, the answer is...    : What's that? The camera...?: The witness stated that he recently received this camera.: Yes, I'm aware of that.: He wasn't entirely familiar with its operation.: I'm aware of that, too.: Ah!: Correct! Why would Cody be looking somewhere else at the critical moment? Because he was looking at his camera!  : Bullseye! : (Pressing, not picking...): Good job, Phoenix! Cody was lying, clearly. Smart of you to realize there was no way he could just stand there, watching his hero... and not take a picture!: Right!: Cody? There was only one reason why you would have looked away from the fight.: And that was because you wanted to take a picture. But having just received your camera, you weren't used to using it yet!: So, you missed the climax of the fight. Correct?: ... ... ... Yeah.: Well, Phoenix. I'll bet you anything he's hiding more than that. Have him testify again!: R-right. (Mia means business!): Your Honor.: The defense would like to request that Cody Hackins testify once more.: V-very well. Cody? : And about why you didn't take a picture of the fight?: Umm...: (Welcome to the real world, kid!)      : Hmm...: Anything strange in that testimony, Mr. Wright?: I'm not sure... But I'd like to proceed with the cross-examination anyway.  : "Pops"...?: Yeah, I called you "pops," you spiky-haired geezer!: G-geezer...? : Okay, off with the kid gloves! Testify, witness, testify!  : So you did see the beginning of the fight? : Yeah.: Did you notice anything unusual?: Umm... well... uh... I guess the Steel Samurai was moving a little strange...: (Moving... strangely?) : Why couldn't you take a picture?: My new camera has too many buttons. I couldn't figure it out. I tried to take a picture, I really tried. : When the lens opened, what did you see?: Uh... well, a person on the ground. And the Steel Samurai! : That's all?: Y-yeah! I told you, I didn't take a picture!: (Hmm... I would have, once I got that lens open...) : (Nah, he definitely would have taken a picture. There's got to be something here I can use!): Cody!: Listen up, Cody Hackins. I know exactly what happened that day.: You took a picture! : (Bullseye...?): H-how did you know!?: I see through all your lies Cody Hackins. It's one of my powers!But not, apparently, using commas. : W-wow!: (This feels great!): Y-yeah... Yeah, I took a picture.: Perhaps you can change your testimony to reflect this, Cody? : You "erased" them?: Y-yeah!: Why would you erase a picture of your beloved Steel Samurai, victorious?: Well... y'know. W-why would I want to keep a picture like that?: (Hmm... he's becoming less and less cooperative. I better find a clear contradiction soon... or some solid evidence.)Loop. : (How can I pick holes in such a short testimony?): There has to be something. Dig up the dirt, Phoenix! Find out what this kid's all about!So, do you see the problem?  : Cody!: Wh-wh-what!? Man, every time you say "Cody" you follow it with something bad. : Huh? O-oh... right.: What was it you told me then? : I always take a picture when the Steel Samurai lands the final blow! Whizzam! I got 'em all! I never missed one! A perfect collection!: Cody. Did you really get a picture of the Steel Samurai standing victorious over his foe? If you did, I find it hard to believe that you would just erase it!  : Mr. Wright... What exactly is this album? : It's a collection of pictures of the Steel Samurai, all taken by Cody Hackins.: He claims it's a perfect collection of every battle the Steel Samurai has won!: I... I see.: Don't you find this very odd, Your Honor?: Among all his pictures of the Steel Samurai, none were taken that day!: Order!: Mr. Wright. Have you an explanation? If the Steel Samurai had just defeated his adversary... I certainly would expect to see a picture of it in this album...: Exactly my point, Your Honor! ... ... : Phoenix? I think we've finally discovered the truth. And what a truth it is! : M-Mia... are we sure about this? Did he actually...? : Yes. I'm pretty sure what you're thinking is right. Tell them, Phoenix. Tell them what the truth is.: Mr. Wright! Please explain to the court what is going on here! Why was there no picture in the album from the day of the murder?  : I believe that Cody Hackins is what we call an "artiste.": An... "artiste"...?: He didn't like the photos he had taken! They were blurry, or maybe his framing was off...: Anyway, for some reason, he erased the data!: Is that right, Cody?: Wh-what do you mean "framing was off"!? : Um, uh... Yes, well, I'm sure the real reason is...: Yes? The real reason is? Why was there no picture in the album from the day of the murder? : Simple, Your Honor. Cody wasn't used to using his new camera. He erased those photos he took by mistake!: W-wait a second, Phoenix. If that's your answer, we're back where we started!: Huh? You mean, that wasn't it?: Mr. Wright! If you have something to say to the court, speak up!: Um, well... S-sorry, Your Honor. Can I change my answer? : Why was there no picture in the album from the day of the murder? : I can think of only one reason, your honor.: The Steel Samurai didn't win! That's why Cody deleted those photos.: You mean the Steel Samurai... lost?: Well, Cody? I'm right, aren't I?: Tell the truth. The bad guy defeated the Steel Samurai!: N-n-n-no way! No!: I-it's impossible! Th-the Steel Samurai never loses!: He never loses to anyone! Ever!: Your Honor...: The witness has revealed everything with his words.: There was a reason why he lied and told us he didn't take a picture. The same reason he erased his precious photos! For Cody, it was inconceivable that the Steel Samurai could be defeated.: However, Cody witnessed the impossible! He saw the Steel Samurai lose! Yet to admit what he saw would destroy everything he believed in!: That's why he lied and said the Steel Samurai won. : O-Order! I will have order!: W-witness! I mean, Cody! Is this true!? W-what did you see? Tell the court what you saw!: I......  : Cody... That day, you saw the Steel Samurai lose a fight. Right?  : Okay okay! Y-you're right! Th-the Steel Samurai f-fell down... Th-then he didn't m-move... : Order! Order! Order!: What kind of stunt are you trying to pull, Wright!?  : Mr. Wright! What's going on?: Apparently, we have all made a serious error.: An... error?  : Quite simply, the victim was Jack Hammer!: ...: ... : Umm... Mr. Wright? We all know that.: Right.: Perhaps you'd like to reconsider your last statement?: ...: I'm sorry. It was I who was wrong. : L-look, I'm sure there's something we're overlooking!: If you're so sure, then tell us what it is! : There was no victim in this case!: Wh-wh-what!? Has the defense taken leave of its senses!?: Of course, Jack Hammer died. But the Steel Samurai fell too!: It was a draw!: ... : Sorry. I was too shocked to say anything for a bit there.: Listen, Wright! Only one person died in this incident, and that is Jack Hammer! Yet now you claim there "was no victim"?: Are you insane?: (Uh oh, he's pulling out all the stops now.): ...: I'm sorry. It was I who was wrong.: L-look, I'm sure there's something we're overlooking!: If you're so sure, then tell us what it is! : If you understand what really happened, it's actually quite simple. At the end of the fight, the Steel Samurai fell to the ground, and lay still. In other words, the Steel Samurai was not the killer, he was the victim! Don't you see?: Jack Hammer was the Steel Samurai!: Order! Order! Order! So, the Steel Samurai in this photograph... : That's what I'm saying, Your Honor. : Thus, he obviously knew about Will Powers's foot injury.: B-but wait! Hadn't Mr. Hammer gone to Studio One already?: That's what everyone thought! But remember what Ms. Oldbag said in her testimony?  : Did I see poor old Hammer? Nope. He'd already gone to the studio before I got back to the guard station. : However, no one saw him going to Studio One. Nor was there a picture of him. : Then he snuck into the dressing room and stole the Steel Samurai costume.: ...: ...: But why would the victim do such a thing?: I... don't know.: ... I get it!: ?: I thought that the Steel Samurai was moving strange. So it was a different person inside the suit!: Pops!: Huh, me? What?: Actually, there was one piece of data I saved.: Data?: Yeah, a photo on my digital camera!: !: W-what!?: Show us, quick!: No way man, not if you're gonna look at me like that!: Now!: *sniff*  : Well, looking at this it's still a little hard to say. I'm afraid that it could be anyone in that costume. Your opinion, Mr. Wright?: I agree, Your Honor. This isn't decisive evidence.: I'm sorry, this doesn't look like it's the proof we need. I'll give it back.: Wait, Phoenix!: Mia? What?: Look at that photo once more! That's it Phoenix!Commas are in short supply lately. : That photo is all the evidence you need to win this trial!: Wh-what!?: Y-Your Honor!: May I see that photo once more please?: C-certainly. I don't see why not.: Phoenix! Show him! There's a glaring, decisive inconsistency with the facts as we know them in that photo! Next time: Did you spot it? 42 U.S.C, Sections 2181(a) and 2014(d) posted:No patent shall hereafter be granted for any invention or discovery which is useful solely in the utilization of special nuclear material or atomic energy in an atomic weapons. Mors Rattus fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Jun 8, 2016 |
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Mors Rattus posted:
He's so happy about bullying a small child.
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To be fair, that small child is a bit of a poo poo.
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