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I really hope to eventually find out what Angel Starr's deal is. How the hell does a detective get titled the "Cough Up Queen?" Undercover hooker seems a bit too obvious.
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Malah posted:I really hope to eventually find out what Angel Starr's deal is. How the hell does a detective get titled the "Cough Up Queen?" Undercover hooker seems a bit too obvious.
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Oct 23, 2016 06:27
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Also this game is rated T, you weirdo.
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Oct 23, 2016 06:38
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Xander77 posted:Confessions. That and the Squid Wheels. 
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Mors Rattus posted:No Spoilers. Period. No spoiler tags, no winks and nudges, no coy references. All these games have are their story, and I do not want to see anyone spoiled on those. People can get carried away with these discussions so I'll say it again: NO FUCKIN' SPOILERS. is this really so hard
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Wonderslug posted:
ManicVolcanic posted:I believe Phoenix said that you can see the entire lot from the security room. Because the security room is on the second floor, you could probably see over the partition from there to the crime scene -- after all, the partition isn't the height of the room. It took until you two mentioned it for me to make sense of the security room's position. Derp. Fortunately, I am not responsible for clearing people of murder charges, because my visual processing is clearly terrible.  Hello up there, security booth! That could probably just about see the crime scene, sure. (I thought the 'SECURITY' sign was at the top and that it was a sort of one-way glass kinda deal below it. No, I don't know why.)
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SirSamVimes posted:is this really so hard It is when no one's been probated for it the many times it's happened in the thread. It's frustrating for me because although I've played a few of the games I still like being surprised by details/things.
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Waffleman and I both ate probations for spoilers in this thread, (which I was trying to be vague about, but still agree with the probation tbh) so it's not that nobody is being probated... But seriously folks, no spoilers!
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Mors Rattus posted:
Typo. Regarding the shoe - How does one get blood on the top of a shoe, and how does on get blood on the bottom? I really wish they had a blood spatter analysis mini game in this case - there's so many little DS gimmicks in it, you'd think there would be.
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RitzBlues posted:Regarding the shoe - How does one get blood on the top of a shoe, and how does on get blood on the bottom? I really wish they had a blood spatter analysis mini game in this case - there's so many little DS gimmicks in it, you'd think there would be. Well, I think what the game is assuming is that blood gets on the bottom of the shoe because it was stepped in, and gets on top of the shoe when it drips from above, like from a knife wound. Which is why Phoenix mentioned the cut on Lana's hand that he saw at the detention center.
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Case 5 - Rise From the Ashes Trial (Day 2) - Part 5 Back to the trial.  : Very well, Mr. Wright, you may cross-examine the witness!     : Why did you lie about those five minutes? : I guess you could say, I just wanted people to look at the results. : The... results?: How many times do I have to say this? : I saw the chief prosecutor stab the victim before my very own eyes! Compared to that... : A five minute "blank" means nothing! : Then why didn't you just tell the truth?: Don't make me laugh! We're dealing with the most untrustworthy of the vile lot known as prosecutors! Falsified evidence, arranged testimonies, erasing and manipulating evidence...: When you fight monsters, you need to use every trick in the book! : (This when the suspect is admitting she did it?)  : False testimony is the most despicable crime of all, Ms. Starr.: Let's just get this over with.  : And, you found this shoe at the scene of the crime? : I detained the chief prosecutor, and notified the Police Department... I wanted to make myself useful while I was waiting for the police to arrive. : So, like an ill-trained pooch, you snuck off with a shoe!: I was afraid someone would erase the chief prosecutor's crime. : See this fashionable basket I have here...?: It carries more than lunchboxes, gentlemen!: (I'm happy for you and your lunchbox bag, really.): In any case, you removed valuable evidence from the scene of the crime.: Now tell us what you did next. : So, you brought it to the forensics department?: If you're going to submit something as evidence in court, you need it approved. To do that, evidence must be analyzed...: by a forensics expert.: (And she got away with her little coup because she used to be a detective...) : Makes sense. After all, a man was stabbed here. : As I said, there were two types of blood found on the shoe.  : You can't say for sure the blood belonged to the victim with a blood test!: You claim to know something about blood tests, Rookie?: Huh...: Well, speak up!: Uh, well... Blood comes in four types... A, B, O, and AB... However! : You can't tell from a blood test whether a murder was performed... in cold blood!: ...: ...: ... That's just a figure of speech, Mr. Wright. : Actually, if you combine all the various blood tests, there are millions of types! It's practically impossible to narrow a blood sample down to one person! : Or so I hear. : M-millions of types? : But they said there's very little doubt it could be anyone's but Ms. Lana Skye's. : Hmm...: So the suspect's blood was found on the victim's shoe... : That ties her directly to the death of Detective Goodman!: (I was afraid he was going to say that...) : (I can't let this evidence go through without a fight!) : ...!: Some like it hot, Mr. Wright. Some, like your client. She's in enough hot water to make a whole batch of soup. : A problem...?  : (No... there's nothing there. And if I just stab blindly at it, I'll hurt my case.): C'mon, Mr. Wright, I know you can find something!: Some kind of off-the-cuff contradiction!: I'm trying to avoid saying things off-the-cuff today.And loop. : (That's pretty sly, hiding evidence like that!): There's nothing sly about a lawyer using the law as a weapon! : In any case, science is always on our side!: Don't forget!: Scientific investivation is the wave of the future!: (Hmm... maybe I should "investigate" this evidence a little more closely...)Or...  : If I'm not imagining things... : That gleam in your eyes...: You're still young, Rookie.   : Let's hear what Mr. Wright has to say!: What is contradictory about the victim's shoe?   : Don't mess with me, Rookie...  : Hmm... Indeed, there is quite a bit of blood on the bottom of the shoe.: It makes sense. The victim was stabbed with a knife!  : The problem lies...: in the footprint.: The... footprint? : Then... isn't it strange? : Why weren't any bloody footprints found by the scene of the crime!?: Ah hah!     : If there were bloody prints they would have been found.  : Order! Order! Order!: Well, witness!? : What!? Huh? I, uh...: Great going, Mr. Wright! : But... It's true that the lack of a footprint is a contradiction...: But then we have to ask why there wasn't a footprint!: Oh!: That's true! There has to be a reason why there wasn't a footprint!: Think, Mr. Wright, think!: ... Hey, I don't know why it's not there. I'm just good at finding contradictions.: What!?  : I see... : Now I get it!: (Get what!?): Our witness is more devious than I gave her credit for! : We were hoodwinked to the very end!  : Wh-what are you talking about?: Think back to when she told us about apprehending the suspect... : She knocked my hands aside, kiced over an oil drum... Oh, she's beautiful, but deadly! A predator, this one! A leopard woman! Rowr! : (No kidding!): Now, witness. Allow me to ask a very simple question. This "oil drum"...: was it empty?: ...: Oh, that, hmm? I'm not sure I like your attitude, Mr. Edgeworth.: Though apparently you're not the slowest conveyor belt in the lunchbox factory.: Witness! W-well?: Was the oil drum empty...?: The oil drum kicked over by the chief prosecutor...: was brimming with water.: W-water? (What does that mean?): Still don't get it, Mr. Wright? Do you want to know the reason she knocked it over?: The REAL reason?: Aaaa haaaaah! You don't mean...!: Yes, the suspect knocked over that oil drum for one reason and one reason alone!   : That ties things up quite nicely! : Then, after the deed was done, she knocked over the oil drum to erase the telltale signs!: Why, that's a prosecutor's specialty...: erasing evidence!: (That reminds me... Ms. Skye's right hand was hurt...)  : Well...: I see no reason to prolong this trial.: M-Mr. Wright! Do something! Please!: W-what!? What can I do? Your sister has confessed to the crime, and she tried to conceal it!: B-but...: Enough.: There is no need for further debate.: The verdict, Your Honor!: Very well...: But Angel Starr is on the prosecution's side! She could have been lying about the water!: This court finds the defendant, Ms. Lana Skye... : Huh...? M-me?: Did you say that I, Angel Starr...: was on the prosecution's side?: W-well, yeah, you are! You're saying my sister hid evidence by erasing the bloody footprints!: Well. : I thought you'd had your fill, but here you are, demanding a second helping! : W-wait... Witness, don't tell me: you have something else?: You've reached your verdict, Your Honor!: Any further comments will be held in contempt of court!: Your threats don't scare the Cough-up Queen!   : that the white shoe didn't belong to the victim!: Hmm...: I see no room for error in this evidence. : Hey! It's clearly wet!: Erasing the last trace of doubt from the court's mind.: Immediately after the murder, the crime scene was washed with water!: I-I'm sorry, Mr. Wright. I guess I...: I couldn't help after all.: (It's not your fault... I knew I couldn't win this case from the beginning.): (And... it seems this is what your sister wanted anyway!) : (I'm sorry, Mia...) ... Don't be so quick to throw in the towel...   Don't give up... Not until the bitter end. : (This is the last piece of evidence...): Very well! This time I'd like to declare a verdict for good! : What is it with you people!? Can't I hand down my verdicts in peace anymore!?: Whatever it is, can it wait?: N-no it can't. Then it will be too late!   : So, Wright...: Are you saying there's a problem with this latest piece of evidence?: Yeah! (I'll think later!): Yeah, there's a problem! (Right or wrong, I've got to go ahead with this!): I suppose since we've come this far, we should give every claim a fair shake.: Very well, Mr. Wright. : The problem in this photograph... is here! : There's something poking out of the car's muffler!: Wait just a moment, Mr. Edgeworth!: Your Honor?: You just said: "muffler"... : ...: A muffler is also a part on a car or motorcycle, Your Honor.: Just think of it as... part of the exhaust system. A pipe...: I see! And... I see! : Hmph! So what if there is something sticking out of the muffler! What does that have to do with this case?: Nothing! Absolutely nothing! : Sorry, Ms. Starr... But it's not going to be that easy! In fact, you've already told us why this is important to the case... : You said as much in your testimony!!!: Wh-what!?: Let's hear what Mr. Wright has on his mind! : Ms. Starr! : Recall your testimony for the court... : That's what had me confused in my earlier testimony! : Could it be that the "muffler" you heard mentioned... : If so!   : Well... It seems we will have to suspend the proceedings.: Sus... Suspend!?: I find myself wondering: about that piece of cloth. If we leave any question unanswered here we do a disservice to the law!: Have the car at the crime scene inspected at once, and bring me that cloth! The verdict will wait until after we've seen all the evidence.: Agreed...?: ...: I suppose so.: (Whew... that was close. But... we made it...): (at least for now!): The court will adjourn for a thirty minute recess!: It's lunchtime after all!: (He's still hungry!?) Next time: Recess. Mors Rattus fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Nov 10, 2016 |
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Oct 26, 2016 11:54
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Mors Rattus posted:
No, lady, you're thinking of Von Karma, and we took his rear end down. Get it right! 
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Oct 26, 2016 12:26
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To be fair, Edgeworth is von Karma's student and has a pretty bad reputation as a "Demon Prosecutor". And he did arrange testimony at least once during Case 2, having the bellboy omit mention of Redd White.
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Oct 26, 2016 13:59
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Is Angel Starr's testimony the longest out of all of the cases? It sure feels like it, with how repetitive it gets with all the "you wanted ____ lunchbox" bits.
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Oct 26, 2016 14:27
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In this game? Possibly. In the series? No. Mors Rattus fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Oct 26, 2016 |
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Oct 26, 2016 14:29
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I am getting really sick of Angel Starr. She just doesn't have a good enough gimmick to sustain this long of a sequence.
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Oct 26, 2016 15:18
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I have a feeling that every single one of those lunchboxes was some kind of pun in Japanese, but the translators couldn't manage to translate all of them to something that makes any sense in English. Some of them work, like Edgeworth's "the next lunch you'll be eating is humble pie!" line. But the peppered fish guts or the squid wheels, just to name two examples, don't make any sense in English -- and so her gimmick goes over like a chocolate-covered sauerkraut.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:To be fair, Edgeworth is von Karma's student and has a pretty bad reputation as a "Demon Prosecutor". To be fair, part of that was probably pressure from above to "keep our good friend and benefactor Redd White out of this". Since Edgeworth isn't the Chief of Prosecution, he can't just say "nuts to you and your extortion attempt, i'll do this my way". 
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Oct 26, 2016 15:35
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I'm pretty sure Angel's testimony isn't even the longest in the case.
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Oct 26, 2016 15:47
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Gotta use that expanded DS card spave somehow right Heh Hehe heh
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Oct 26, 2016 18:55
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Yeah, the million variant lunchbox sprites kinda got aggressively old.
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Funky Valentine posted:I'm pretty sure Angel's testimony isn't even the longest in the case. I think I'm going to hate this case.
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Oct 27, 2016 03:07
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Pretty sure that testimony was the nadir of the case. It's all up from here.
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Oct 27, 2016 03:12
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There's at least 1 fantastic character that we haven't met yet. This case gets a lot better.
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Case 5 - Rise From the Ashes Trial (Day 2) - Part 6 In every other case, a chapter break has meant going to the next cycle of Investigation or Trial. Not so this time! Instead, we're going back into the trial once we finish the recess.    : Um... Mr. Wright?: Huh? What? : Are trials... always like this with you? : Like you're swimming up from the bottom of a lake, about to reach the surface...: But no matter how hard you paddle you never seem to get there...: Pretty much. Except today we're swimming in quicksand. So what happened to your sister, anyway?: Apparently she got called off to the judge's chambers.: Hmm... Probably something to do with that piece of cloth. : So! This is where we turn this trial around, right? : Our only weapon, a tiny, insignificant piece of cloth!: I'm the one who's starting to feel tiny and insignificant to tell the truth.    : That's what they told me when I was a young'un, at least. : Officer Marshall!: Thought I'd come take a look-see at how the trial's going. Looks like I'm late. They've got the place locked down tighter than a fort in enemy territory!: What is going on over there, anyway? All the police I've seen these last two days have been really on edge. : Don't you got enough on your plate without worrying about other people, compadre?: You could be worrying about the chief prosecutor's taste in mufflers, for example.: Um... Officer Marshall?: The whole "muffler" thing didn't have anything to do with scarves... : She wasn't even wearing a scarf! : You don't say?: Now don't that just beat all.: ...?: I've seen the red breeze blow at her slender neck many a time... : What!?: At the awards ceremony that afternoon. Edgeworth's seen it too, I'd reckon.: (What does that mean!?) : So, Ms. Starr: wasn't mistaken... : Well, it's about time.: Remember, pardner, sometimes you gotta grab the bull by the horns... : (Ugh... I have a bad feeling about this.): So... what are we swimming in now, Mr. Wright?: If it's steak sauce, I can hook you up with some fine ribs! Ooh-wee!  : I'd... like to... resume...?: (What's up? The judge keeps looking over at the prosecution...) : Is something wrong, Mr. Edgeworth?: Your face is blue, your lips are purple, you're sweating bullets... That furrowed brow, those grinding teeth, those water eyes... What's more, your eyes are unfocused, you're doubled over, your back is bent...: It... can't... be!! : This... can't... happen!: I wonder what happened to Mr. Edgeworth?: Well then, I believe it is time we continued on with this trial.: During our recess I had requested that the prosecution conduct an investigation...: Th-this is unacceptable! : Hmm...: It seems our prosecutor is quite beside himself. : Ah, er, excuse me. Knock knock?: ...?: Who's there?  : (What's with this guy?)  : Hey! The temperature rose 5.7 degrees when that man came in!: (Who on earth is he...?): Ah, it's you...   : Sorry I'm late, Udgey! The roads were packed. It's just me! : Ah! Hello, hello.: No, I've been so busy...: Busy! Busy-smizzy, Udgey, my boy! You have to make time to relax!: Y-yes, indeed.: Udgey... seems to be his nickname for the judge...?: I'm afraid you're right. Very afraid.: Um... sorry, but... who are you?: Ah hah! So you're Wrighto! The attorney! I've heard good things about you, son! : Eh? Uh, th-thanks...? : You know, we should all go swimming together sometime! Jolly!: Little...: Little Worthy...?: Mr. Wright! : Chuh...?: Chief of Police...!?: He's the top ranking police officer in the entire district!Just imagine dead silence pretty much every time this happens. : Name's Gant, Damon Gant. Pleased to meet you, everyone!: So, uh, to what do we owe this honor today?: It's been over... two years since you last came to this courtroom, hasn't it?  : Hey! Th-that's...!: My sister's muffler!: (So Ms. Starr wasn't just seeing things!)   : On little Worthy's car, no less! : Wh-what's this!? : It's what you'd call a switchblade knife. : Quite perplexing, this. : Chief!: What kind of outfit are you running!?: M-Mr. Edgeworth!: How could they miss such a vital piece of evidence!?: If your investigators are this lax, how do you expect us to do our job?: N-now wait a minute, Worthy!: I've no desire to hear your excuses!: I'm telling you to wait!: Or didn't you hear me?: ...! : There's no mistaking that signature...: Miles Edgeworth?: Th-that's no fair!: The day of the crime, I-I had...: Your head in the clouds because you got that award!: I know how you feel...: But you're the person in charge.: I'll expect a written apology.: What? Are you serious!?: Don't be too upset, we'll find a way to clean up this mess... that you made.: ...!: This is the first time I've seen Mr. Edgeworth at a loss for words...: This kind of major blunder is unlike you Mr. Edgeworth.: Gah...!: The court accepts this new evidence.: But, I'd like to ask the defense a favor first.: Y-yes?: Just to be sure... : The b-blade, Your Honor?: Well, I don't see why not...: Could you open it up for me, I wonder?: Yes, well.: I think all you have to do is push that switch, and...: If I cut my finger Mr. Wright, I wouldn't be able to pound my gavel anymore.: (Yeah. But if I cut my finger, I wouldn't be able to point it at people anymore...): Come on! Just hurry up and open it!The game forces us into examining the knife.  : It seems to say "SL-9 2"...: What does that mean?: Well... (I've heard something similar... "DL-6" of "DL-6 Incident" fame...): But... it's strange.: Huh? What is?: I'm not certain... But I get the feeling I've seen this somewhere before! Letters like this... or letters that looked a lot like this... somehow. : I'm the one who's scared!: Look at this knife blade... the tip is broken off.: (And this dark red stain... blood?) And back to the trial. : This does not excuse the actions of the Police Department!: I would like to hear an explanation from the Chief of Police himself!: I'm terribly sorry, but could I ask you to testify for us?          : There...: There was a murder at the Police Department!? A detective!?: That's hush-hush information, Udgey! We haven't exactly announced it yet.: W-wait a second!: You said "5:15"... : Order! Order! Order!: Anyway, we at the Department were all a-flustered, as you might well assume. We're in the middle of a top-top-secret investigation.: Don't tell anyone, okay?: I think we understand the Police Department's situation...: Well, Mr. Wright?: (Two detectives killed at the same time in two different places...): The chances of that are really slim. Scientifically speaking, of course.: I'd... like to exercise: my right to cross-examine the witness. : Very well... however!: Keep your questions focused on the case at hand!Next time: Cross-examination. Mors Rattus fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Nov 10, 2016 |
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Gant owns.  The way his staring interacts with the music is something that's unfortunately lost to the screenshot format, even with tindeck links.Mors Rattus posted:
Typo.
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Oct 29, 2016 16:44
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He's here. For maximum authenticity, stare at this picture for about 15 seconds every time it shows up.
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Well, he certainly seems... jolly. Has a stirring theme, too... and anyone that reduces Edgeworth to stress state can't be all bad!Mors Rattus posted:
For some reason this exchange nearly made me spit my drink... it's just so absurd
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Oh hey it's Koos
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AlphaKretin posted:Gant owns. It's good https://my.mixtape.moe/upvkel.webm
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Oct 29, 2016 18:12
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This is basically Edgeworth's life now. First hour of the trial goes swimmingly, and then the witnesses start talking .
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Oct 29, 2016 18:24
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The best new character of this case is finally here! And yeah, whenever the camera cuts to him, just imagine him staring into your eyes, blinking twice, before he starts talking.
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Gant's quite the character for sure. Tons of surprises from his appearance, his frequent semi-awkward pauses to his jolly demeanor and frequent use of nicknames for everyone.
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I love how... intensely Gant stares at the camera. Such a good sprite/animation and how the music interacts with it is truly excellent.
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Oct 30, 2016 00:19
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In case anyone hasn't noticed, the center of Gant's tie and his buttons are police badges. We previously saw it on Marshall's poncho, Meekins's hat, and a very detailed version in Goodman's wallet.
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Oct 30, 2016 01:05
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I really, really hate Swimming, Anyone? as Gant's theme. Yes, his theme. For him. Which you will be hearing a lot. But the quiet staring and the beats where the music kicks in on, yes, those are greatly timed.
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Dinictus posted:I really, really hate Swimming, Anyone? as Gant's theme. Yes, his theme. For him. Which you will be hearing a lot. Gant is far from the only character/witness to have his own theme in this series. Although I will agree that compared to most of the others, this one's a bit... low-key.
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Zerbin7 posted:Gant is far from the only character/witness to have his own theme in this series. Although I will agree that compared to most of the others, this one's a bit... low-key. I suppose the same could be said for Marshall, I guess, but Gant's theme just strikes me as entirely misfitting his role as this guy being the Chief of Police. Then again I generally dislike his posturing and his friendly-but-totally-the-boss angle as is. It's me. I'm Edgeworth right now about Gant. Dinictus fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Oct 30, 2016 |
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Also explosions every time he claps. Hes the kind of man that could out clap a stadium of people
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I did a lovely crop job if anyone wanted an avatar. Though hopefully if anyone does want to spend money on it this'll just be inspiration to do a better job 
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