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theshim posted:Because we haven't met enough crazy people yet I thought he was just old, and possibly a bit drunk.
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That loving parrot.Cyouni posted:To be fair, that's still pretty commonly used to refer to someone if you've got a Chinese background. Can't speak for any other backgrounds, though. ONE MOOOOORE THING
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Cyouni posted:To be fair, that's still pretty commonly used to refer to someone if you've got a Chinese background. Can't speak for any other backgrounds, though. True in some Arabic dialects.
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Aug 10, 2016 20:11
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It's used that way in Swedish as well in some cases.
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There you have it. As we all know, Japanifornia has rich history of immigration from Sino-Arabic Swedes.
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Xander77 posted:That's nowhere close to how Japanese animators draw black people. Yes, because all Japanese people draw exactly the same way, forever, and also all anime is about white people, and the only distinguishing feature anyone of any race has is skin color.
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Dr. Buttass posted:Yes, because all Japanese people draw exactly the same way, forever, and also all anime is about white people, and the only distinguishing feature anyone of any race has is skin color. Lotta is supposed to be a stereotypical Osaka resident (to the point where Capcom's Osaka offices were actually a little annoyed at her portrayal as a cheapskate). I actually can neither remember, nor find evidence of, a single black person in this series.
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Kurui Reiten posted:Lotta is supposed to be a stereotypical Osaka resident (to the point where Capcom's Osaka offices were actually a little annoyed at her portrayal as a cheapskate). I actually can neither remember, nor find evidence of, a single black person in this series. (I know he's probably just a tan Japanese guy because of course he would be, but  .)
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Dr. Buttass posted:Yes, because all Japanese people draw exactly the same way, forever, quote:and also all anime is about white people, and the only distinguishing feature anyone of any race has is skin color. 
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So like, irony. Sarcasm. Those ringin' any bells dude? I may also be implying that you're racist. Dr. Buttass fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Aug 11, 2016 |
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Yo let's not derail the thread with this, please? Can we?
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This is never going to go anywhere good, yeah.
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Night10194 posted:I don't think there are any sane people in Japanifornia besides Nick. Given that Nick is actually trying to be a defense lawyer in this hosed up judicial system, I don't think he's sane either.
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YggiDee posted:Given that Nick is actually trying to be a defense lawyer in this hosed up judicial system, I don't think he's sane either. He's moderately less insane than the system, at least?
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Green Intern posted:I thought he was just old, and possibly a bit drunk. Just a bit?
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If your memory and eyesight are already starting to fail you, a little inebriation goes a long way.
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Haifisch posted:With minimal spoilers: The guy with the best testimony title in the series would disagree. The one from the Dual Destinies DLC. You know the guy. I would've known even without the DLC part. That was a fantastic scene. "Best testimony title" really gives it away 
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...yeah, I can see why von Karma went with Lotta.
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Case 4 - Turnabout Goodbyes Investigation (Day 2) - Part 4 So, today we get to question the crazy old man.      : Umm... a pasta shop? : Ayup! To think, the "Wet Noodle," will live on when I'm gone. My father started it you know. So that makes you two the third generation! : Meg... : Y-yes!: Tomorrow, we'll start with the secrets of dough tossin'!: D-dough tossing?: You, too, Keith.: Y-yes?: You'll be the best pasta wrangler the west has ever seen! : P-pasta wrangler? The west? I-isn't pasta from Italy? : Y-yes! : You know the best pasta's always been made west of the Rockies, don't you?: R-right, of course. Everybody knows that. : Nick...?: Huh? : How long do we have to keep up this all-in-the-family charade?: (This old man must know something about the murder...? We're not leaving until we find out what that is.) : Umm... this is a boat rental shop, right?: What're you talking about!? This here's the palace of pasta, the "Wet Noodle"!: Though, now that you mention it, we haven't gotten many orders for spaghetti lately. All the kids come up and say "Yo dude, we wanna ride in one of your boats!" That's why I keep them boats out there.: Youngsters these days... Darned if I understand 'em!: I'm pretty confused myself.: Nick... This isn't going anywhere. : But this old man is the witness tomorrow, right? We've got to find some way of getting information out of him! : Ack, my memory's gotten worse of late. That's why I just tell everything important to old Polly here.: Everything... important? Hmm, I wonder... : Polly! What's the number of the safe!? : "...1228!" *squawk*: Alright!: H-hey! Polly! Watch it, will ya! : Heh heh. See, Nick? All it takes is a little clever thinking!: (And a criminal mind...): Quick, Nick! Write that number down!: H-hey! Don't get me involved in your little heist schemes.We can present stuff, but most... : Now, listen here, Keith. Remember that tricolor pasta we were talking about? Our "Rainbolioli"! I figured out the last color we should use! Indigo Blue!: Indigo... Blue?: (That didn't seem to work the way I thought it might.)But the badge...  : That a lawyer's badge?: Y-yes, it is! (I don't believe it! This old guy is the first person to recognize my badge!): ... I get it.: Huh?: Ayup... I got you figured out now!: You're not Keith!: ...: N-Nick! : Now's our chance to clear things up!: Umm... sir. No, I'm not Keith.: And I'm not Meg, either!: ...: We're here investigating a murder that took place on this lake the other night.: Please, help us!: ...: Hm... a lawyer, huh?: Please, mister...: Alright, I'll help.: But, on one condition.: What's that?: When this case is over and done...  : I can't make that promise.: ...: I-is that any way to treat your old man!? : Bah! You want my help? You've come to the wrong man!: Uh oh... now he's grumpy.: Not to mention he still thinks we're his kids. (Maybe we should just say we'll run his shop?)This drops us at exactly the point of the correct answer.  : Okay, we promise.: N-Nick! Are you sure about this?: Hey, anything to get this case solved. Also... Who wouldn't want to eat "Phoenix Noodles"?: I.. guess so.: That's my boy! Good for you, Keith.: W-wait, didn't I just say...: You too, Meg!: Y-yes!?: I forget the time, but it was pretty dark outside... probably night, ayup.: (It was after midnight, but okay...): Then I heard this "bang!" So I looked outside. : Then I heard another one. "Bang!" : A little while later, this boat comes back. Then a young man walked by my window here.: He was mutterin' something to himself, ayup.: What did he say?: ... Ayup... ...: I forgot. I'll remember tomorrow by court time, promise.: We need to know earlier than that...!: You know what? Eh? Little Terry was just here.: "Terry"...?: Ayup, that kid next door. You always used to make him cry, remember? He was wearin' this tattered old coat. Got himself some whiskers growing out of his face.: (He must be talking about Detective Gumshoe...): He comes up and tells me to come down to court tomorrow.: Really...?: (Somehow I don't think we're going to get much useful information from this guy.) Maya... maybe we should be leaving. : I think you're right.: Oh, wait--I had one more question.: Huh?: Polly! Polly! Have we forgotten something?: *squawk* "Don't forget DL-6!" *squawk*: H-huh!? What did she just say, Nick?: One more time, Polly!  : (What!? The DL-6 Incident?) Hey, mister! I-I mean, Dad!: (This is getting weird... Who IS this old guy!?)We are shunted outside.  : We have to figure out who that old man is.: Oh...: What?: He locked the door, from the other side.: (... Who could that old man be...?): (I think I need to do a little more research on this DL-6 Incident... Maybe I should ask Detective Gumshoe.)And we are indeed off to see the Detective. Incidentally, we are in fact now unable to go back into the shack.     : ... : You don't look so happy. What's wrong this time?: Actually, we wanted to ask you something... : Yeah?  : You know the boat rental shop down at Gourd Lake?: Oh, yeah...: The old man who runs it is appearing as a witness in court tomorrow, right?  : Huh...!? How'd you--Hmm. That was supposed to be top secret.: Do you know who that old man is, Detective?: ... : Actually... I don't. He's a bit of an odd bird... I haven't been able to get a straight answer out of him.: I decided first that he wans't persuasive enough to stand and testify as a witness. That's why we called Ms. Lotta Hart yesterday.: As for who he is... We have absolutely no idea.: Hmm... sounds suspicious!: Hmm... : Detective Gumshoe, please, help us...: H-huh?: We need to know about the DL-6 Incident!: ...!: That was when Edgeworth's father died. I can't help but think that it has something to do with this current case.: ... To tell the truth, I don't know much about DL-6 either. Mr. Edgeworth forbade us from reading the file.: So... I'm afraid I can't show them to you, either, pal. : However... If you can convince me somehow that the DL-6 Incident is related to this case... Well, I guess I'd consider opening the file up.Obviously this means presenting evidence. Specifically, Polly.  : The old man at the boat rental shop's parrot. The parrot knew about that "incident"...: That incident?: DL-6. : Wh-what!? : *squawk* "Don't forget DL-6!" *squawk*: H-huh!? : Yeah, but how would that old man know about the DL-6 Incident?: Wait! What if... What if that old man was connected to DL-6?: N-Nick! You think he might be!?: ...: ...: I get ya. Sounds like you need information on the DL-6 Incident.: Through there is the Station's Records Room. : I'll give you special permission to go in and find what you need.: All right! Way to go, Detective Gumshoe! Okay, Nick! To the Records Room!: (I guess it's time we faced Edgeworth's past...)   : It's amazing.........ly dusty.: Ten years of files and ten years of dust, I guess.: Let's find that DL-6 stuff quick!: (Fiften years ago... both me and Edgeworth were nine years old. We were almost through with fourth grade when he suddenly transferred. Because of DL-6...?): Nick! I found out where the file is!: O-oh, thanks!: Just let me know what you want to know about the DL-6 Incident! I'll go get the right file!But first, we'll look around.  : It looks like there are files inside that glass case. The case is so dusty I can't see what's inside.: Nick... it's locked.: They must keep important case files in there. : This cabinet is where they keep evidence for current cases. Some of the things are obviously murder weapons. Others are... who knows what. Most of it just looks like random junk.: Nick... what do you think this clothespin is for?: Don't touch that! It's evidence... : Here are files of collected case reports. There's quite a large volume of reports here.: Wow... these are all case reports!?: Yeah. It's like a graveyard of police cases.: I guess my sister's case report is in here too... quietly gathering dust. : There are shelves stuffed with case files in the back of the room, too. Forgotten cases, rotting away for eternity...: Nick, let's get what we need and get out of here. : All the dust is getting to me!Now, about those files...  : Well, first I have to get a handle on the main facts... like a summary.: Right. Summary... summary... Found it! : That's exactly 15 years ago from the day after tomorrow!: (So in two days, the case is closed...) The incident took place in the elevator of the district court.: What!? Is this the same district court where we're holding the trial now!?: Looks like it. : Part of the court building collapsed, and all of the lights went out.  : It took five hours for them to be rescued... Five hours!  : The survivors...?: One of the three in the elevator had been shot... in the heart.: That was Mr. Edgeworth's father... wasn't it. : (So Miles Edgeworth was one of the other passengers in that elevator.) : Do you have data on the victim... Edgeworth's father?: Yeah, hold on... Victim... victim... Here! Found it! : He had lost that day's case in court, and got in the elevator with his son, Miles.: "Miles"...!: Miles Edgeworth, of course.: So he was on the elevator with his father! : The murder weapon, a pistol, was found in the elevator. The pistol had been fired two times. : (Huh...! It sounds just like this current case! What's going on here?) : Got any data on the suspect in there?: Hmm... that would be the guy that my mom got arrested. Hold on... this is it. : He was a clerk in the court, apparently. : Well, then he had to have done it!: But... he was found innocent. Thanks to his defense lawyer, Robert Hammond. : Right. : He lost all memory of being in the elevator. After he was declared innocent, he disappeared.: Hmm... where could Yogi have gone to, I wonder?: (He may be closer than we think...) : I still don't know what sort of impact the whole thing had on Edgeworth...: Nick. Are we going to take the whole file? There's too much! We'll never get it out.: Y-you're right. How about we just take what we think we'll need...     : That's probably all we'll be able to find here. Now, all that's left is the trial tomorrow... I wonder how "Dad" will do testifying in court... Next time: The trial's ahead. Victoria Gambling Regulation ACt 2003, Section 3.8.11, Victoria, Australia posted:3.8.11. Offences relating to obstruction of Minister or authorised persons Mors Rattus fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Aug 13, 2016 |
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You accidently bolded everything from "Wait! What if... What if that old man was connected to DL-6[/b}?" Other than that, seems like this old man is more important than we first thought... I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.
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I cannot believe the loving parrot is part of the conspiracy.
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Double Plus Undead posted:I cannot believe the loving parrot is part of the conspiracy. You're in for a real treat, then.
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Mors Rattus posted:.
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More speculation. So, the obvious line of thinking that I guess you're supposed to be on is that the old man is Yanni Yogi, and that he named his parrot after his dead fiancée Polly. Could be he suffered permanent brain damage from the oxygen deprivation in the elevator, or it could be that he's faking brain damage until the statute of limitations runs out. Fifteen years is a long time to keep that kind of charade up, but if it keeps you from being executed... However, that doesn't explain why he would kill his defense lawyer fifteen years later, and we still don't understand the double shots. The fact that it happened the same way twice seems significant. Also, the two shots in the elevator seem pretty easy to figure out. One went into Mr. Edgeworth's heart, and the other one went out through the glass of the elevator. But the other possibility is that Yanni Yogi is innocent, and there was only one shot fired into (not inside) the elevator: through the glass and into Mr. Edgeworth's heart. The second shot might have been fired a few minutes earlier, for some (yet unknown) reason. But in both cases -- the "the old man is Yogi" theory and the "one shot hit Mr. Edgeworth and one hit the glass" theory, that seems to be the obvious answer, which makes me mistrust it. The murder "weapon" in the Steel Samurai case was an iron fence, so I wouldn't be surprised if there's something hinky going on here, too. We'll have to see.
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Building an airtight elevator is a really stupid idea, even for Japanifornia.
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Phoenix Wright Trilogy is currently on sale on the US eshop for $16.49, and Dual Destinies for $11.99 until 8/18.
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Keep in mind that the price for Dual Destinies is deceptive, it's actually higher, because the DLC is basically mandatory and probably not discounted. 
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I think the idea is that rubble entombed the elevator. Pretty valid reason to be scared of earthquakes after being caught in that. And, yeah, some of these clues are very heavy-handed; I'm expecting a couple more twists before things are resolved. Also, I think the 'Age, Regret' track up there when the old man can't remember is accidentally linked to 'Grossberg' again.
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Shady Amish Terror posted:I think the idea is that rubble entombed the elevator. Pretty valid reason to be scared of earthquakes after being caught in that. And, yeah, some of these clues are very heavy-handed; I'm expecting a couple more twists before things are resolved. Nope. It is the same track.
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Ah, fair enough. The title confused me I guess.
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The parrot did it. Book 'em, Gumshoe. 
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As I already beat the game I can't really speculate on what's to come. However, I just want to say one thing. Our two main opponents this game have been Miles and Manfred. Von Karma is smugness personified and also a real jerk to boot, something I don't think Edgeworth ever quite dipped into so fully. However, Von Karma's finger wag never ticked me off like Edgeworth's own trademark mocking gesture. (I have a ton of saved gifs from the first time this thread was done and I always held onto this one in particular)  I dunno if it's the little mocking extension of his arms as if to say "what? That the best you can do?" or the condescending shake of the head that expresses his supreme disappointment and contempt, but when I first played this game, I wanted to punch him so hard.
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Grizzwold posted:Building an airtight elevator is a really stupid idea, even for Japanifornia. Doesn't have to be airtight. Airflow's bad enough, it'll be an issue all the same.
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C. Everett Koop posted:The parrot did it. Book 'em, Gumshoe. If anything, we should be booking the parrot for obstruction of justice.
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HenryEx posted:Keep in mind that the price for Dual Destinies is deceptive, it's actually higher, because the DLC is basically mandatory and probably not discounted. Is the DLC case meant to be done after the main game?
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Geokinesis posted:Is the DLC case meant to be done after the main game? During, actually. Between Cases 2 and 3, more specifically.
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quote:This one textbox is the sole foundation we use to lay out the entire Ace Attorney timeline. This is literally the only time a specific year is mentioned in any of the games. Every other time an event from the past is brought up, it's in relative years ago. I didn't even think Capcom had acknowledged the timeline until they started talking about it when it began in real time. Also, the live-action movie, despite being set in "20XX," has a DL-6 evidence tag show the crime as happening in 2012, the year of the movie's release, making that movie take place in 2027. Waffleman_ fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Aug 14, 2016 |
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Waffleman_ posted:This one textbox is the sole foundation we use to lay out the entire Ace Attorney timeline. This is literally the only time a specific year is mentioned in any of the games. Every other time an event from the past is brought up, it's ftfy
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Hey, I think it was three years ago one time. And then there was five years ago. Also, the timeline isn't exact due to each game's tendency to treat every event of the previous game as happening a flat year ago, despite the dates the cases take place in. So each character is aged up a year without thought to birthdays, and sometimes you have things referred to as "a year ago" that were more than a year and a half ago. Waffleman_ fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Aug 14, 2016 |
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