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Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.

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Redd White of Bluecorp

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Dr. Buttass
Aug 12, 2013

AWFUL SOMETHING
That's a very punchable face. I want to punch that face.

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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Case 2- Turnabout Sisters
Investigation #2 - Part 2

So, we're off to Bluecorp today.



: ... (What's with the surreal decor...?)



: (What the...?)



: I was just inquirably asking the title that you go by.
: Uh... Wright. Phoenix Wright. ("Inquirably"...?)
: Mr. Wright, is it? Right, I see... Splendiferous. Perhaps I have intimidated you with my giantesque vocabulary...?
: (What is this guy's problem!)
: I'm Redd White, CEO of Bluecorp. You know, Corporate Expansion Official? My business dealings bring me into contact with the elite of the elite.



: (What a fruitcake!)
: Hmmm, let me guess... You are an attorney fresh out of law school, are you not? That's the only explanation for why you would come to meet me like this!
: (What does he mean by that?)
: No matter. So, what business does a "mighty" lawyer have with a man such as myself?
: (Yipes! This guy's arrogance meter is off the scale!)



Let's take a look around.



: ...? Haven't I seen this somewhere...? Is this a replica?
: Ridiculosity! I have no interest in anything but originals. That right there is a bona fide original! Worth five million, for sure.
: Hmmm...



: An impressive line-up of trophies. "Judges Special Runner-up" "Best Participation" "Judges Cooperation Award" "Special Good Try PRize" Hmm. The words "Judges" and "Special" kind of stand out.



: A statue of a man holding up the world. The "Bluecorp" sign certainly stands out enough... The model for the man is, of course, Mr. White.
: Truly a work of art! But, probably too beautacious for you to appreciate, correct?
: (I think it's a little too "beautacious" for just about anyone to appreciate.)



: I'm guessing this is supposed to be a desk? My my... This is quite the... thing.
: It is modeled on my body, see? Well? Does its sleek roundature not... inspire you?



: This is the top floor of a 20-story building. The view is quite... presidential.

Time for a chat.



: Miss May is an employee of Bluecorp, is she not?
: Correct. She was my secretariat.
: What a shock it was to hear what she has done!
: "What she has done"... You mean the wiretap?
: Indeed! She is paid to answer phones. Tapping them is NOT in her job description. She does gather information for us as part of her duties.
: But, I assure you, we do not condone illegal methods! It is ineffable that she would do this.
: (It sounds like he's trying to turn Miss May into a scapegoat...)



: On the night of the murder were you in April May's hotel room?
: Who can say? I seldom pay attention to mundane details such as time and place.
: My motto is: "Don't worry, be happy!"
: Still, Mr. White... The hotel bellboy has stated on the record that he does remember you very clearly.
: ...
: No matter! The bellboy can say what he pleases. I still won't talk to you. If you want me to speak, put me on the witness stand!
: Although I doubt you'd be capable of doing that.
: (Hmm. He raises a good question, actually... Why didn't prosecution call him as a witness? He should have "seen" the same thing as April May!)
: Oh hoh hoh. The police... the courts... To me they are mere toys. Playthings for my amusement!



: What kind of company is Bluecorp, anyway?
: Ah, excellent question! We buy and sell various kinds of information. We are a company of the future! You might say, we ARE the future!
: (Sell... information?)
: In just 10 years, I've built this business up into the grand office you see now. Ah, in case you were wondering, Bluecorp was named after the color "blue"!
: I, Redd White of Bluecorp, as founder and CEO, named it so! And why, you ask? Because I like the color blue of course!
: Fantabulistic, is it not?



: Uh... there's something that's been bothering me.
: Yes? What might that be?





: It's a very striking piece of art.
: Magnificentatious, isn't it?
: Yeah. ... (Why am I making small talk...?)



: You know, I've actually seen that painting before.
: Oh?
: Just yesterday, actually.
: Your point being...?
: My point is simple. Er, rather, my question is simple: Why is that painting hanging on your wall?



: Say, when did you get that painting?
: ... Hmm... no idea! I forgot!
: I've seen that painting before. Yesterday, in fact. Why do I find that painting here today?

The two above options converge here.

: ... Mr. Wrong, was it?
: Wright.
: It appears you do not fully grasp your position here.
: I ask again. Who are you?
: Umm... huh? A lawyer?
: No, my feeble friend, A "mere" lawyer. Worth nothing. Zilch. Zippo. Nada!
: Just like that sorry excuse for an attorney, Grodyburger!
: (Wh-what!?)





: Well, Mr. Lawyer. What will you do, eh? Charge me with assault?
: Charge away, I welcome it! For it is YOU who will be found guilty!
: What...?
: Heed my exposition! The police, the courts, they all do my bidding.
: (So you say... But I wonder... Is that kind of control really possible?)
: I don't expect you to understand. It is a world beyond your compensation. ... You came here from Grodyburger's, I presume?
: Mr. Grossberg's... yes.
: Then you must ask him: Why is it that this painting of his hangs here? Perhaps then he will tell you?
: Perhaps he will explain how a man can live life purely for personal profit! ...
: Go now! Skedaddle! there is nothing more to discuss!

He's right about that, at least.





: ... ...
: (Huh? I don't think he's noticed me standing here. Maybe I should... clear my throat?) Aaa-HHHEM!
: Jumping Jehosephats! Oh! You!
: What's wrong? You looked so pensive... like an old man at the end of his days.
: Hmm? I'm not senile yet! I was just thinking about this whole mess...
: (Something's really bothering him, that much is clear.)



Let's see what Grossberg has to talk about.



: So you came to see the trial?
: Yes, yes I did. Something was bothering me all last night, you see, couldn't get a wink of sleep.
: Really? What was that?
: Well, you see, it's just... Mia's sister, that poor girl.
: My boy, I owe you my thanks, truly. I don't know what I would have done if things had gone poorly for the girl.



: I asked before, but, why did you refuse her request for defense? I think I have a right to know.
: A right, Mr. Wright? No, no, I'm sorry. It's just, I need more time to think about it, my boy.
: ... (He does seem troubled about something... I'm starting to have a feeling I know what it is.)



: So, I paid Bluecorp a visit.
: Oh? Oh, I see.
: Mr. Grossberg... I have to admit, something has been bothering me.
: Oh? What is it? Well, out with it, my boy!





: Mr. Grossberg, sir... There was a giant painting hanging right there the other day, was there not? The one you said you had "no intention of parting with"? Well, I saw it. Today. It was in the CEO's office at Bluecorp. Redd White's office.
: ... So... you noticed. I suppose I should have guessed you would. It is a large painting...
: Mr. Grossberg, I know you and Mr. White are connected somehow!
: C-connected, you say?





: You're his client, aren't you? He's giving you information!
: What's that now?
: You've been protecting him all along. You protect him because you need his services!
: ...
: You gave him that painting in exchange for some valuable information, didn't you?
: Utterly ridiculous. Me, his client? I would never willingly deal with that man. Never!
: (Huh? Did I get it wrong?)



: Mr. White has something on you doesn't he? Blackmail?
: ...!
: I think that painting is fairly gaudy proof.
: ... Very well. This may be the chance I've been waiting for. Maybe it's time to get this off my chest, so I can finally rest easy again. After all, you were Mia's understudy. Perhaps it was fate?
: (What's he talking about...?)



: It's not something I can claim to understand... But you and Mr. White are lovers, aren't you!
: W-w-what! My boy!
: You sent that painting to him! As a sign! A sign of undying love!
: M-m-my boy, please! You're letting your fancies run away with you! Where do you get these bizarre ideas?
: I... I don't understand how you could...
: That's because I'm not, we're not... Don't be ridiculous! ...
: Enough. I'll swallow my pride and tell you all.
: (I knew it! They are lovers!)
: N-no! We are NOT lovers!



: That photo of Mr. White... Why would you have his photo, Mr. Grossberg?
: Umm... yes, well. It's been a long time since then...
: A long time ago? I'm sorry... but I think not. I think you still have ties to Mr. White, even today.
: R-really! Whatever gave you that idea! W-what connection could I possibly have to an individual such as he?





: You go drinking together! You're friends, aren't you?
: ... Now you're being foolish, my boy. Why in the world would I ever drink with the likes of him!?
: (Huh? Whoops... maybe that wasn't it.)



: Mr. White has something on you doesn't he? Blackmail?
: ...! I don't... I don't know what you're talking about!
: Mr. Grossberg, sir... There was a giant painting hanging right there the other day, was there not? The one you said you ahd "no intention of parting with"? Well, I saw it. Today. It was in the CEO's office at Bluecorp. Redd White's office.
: ...
: So... you noticed. I suppose I should have guessed you would. It is a large painting...
: Mr. Grossberg... tell me what happened.



: Redd White is supplying you with information, obviously!
: What's that now?
: You've been protecting him all along. You protect him because you need his services!
: ... Now you're being foolish, my boy. What possible use could I have for the services of the likes of him!?
: (Huh? Whoops... maybe that wasn't it.)



: I thought it was strange. Here was Maya, your own apprentice's little sister, in desperate need... Accused of killing her own sister no less, and you wouldn't take the case! I finally realized why.





: I'll bet you and White go way back! He's your boss now, and was before, I bet!
: My what? Boss? Are you serious?
: Yeah! you both have that sort of "we're in the same club together" feel to you.
: Please, stop. You have a very peculiar sense of humor, Mr. Wright. Very well, I'll talk.
: (What does he mean... "sense of humor"? I was serious!)



: Mr. White has something on you doesn't he? Blackmail?
: ...! I don't... I don't know what you're talking about!
: Mr. Grossberg, sir... There was a giant painting hanging right there the other day, was there not? The one you said you ahd "no intention of parting with"? Well, I saw it. Today. It was in the CEO's office at Bluecorp. Redd White's office.
: ...
: So... you noticed. I suppose I should have guessed you would. It is a large painting...
: Mr. Grossberg... tell me what happened.



: It's not something I can claim to understand... But you and Mr. White are lovers, aren't you!
: W-w-what! My boy!
: Mr. Grossberg. The other day, there was a giant painting hanging on that wall. I saw that painting again, today. It was in the CEO's office of Bluecorp. It was a present, wasn't it?
: Well, my boy, you have a splended imagination!
: I... I don't understand how you could...
: That's because I'm not, we're not... Don't be ridiculous!
: (Hmm... I guess I was wrong. But it just seemed so right!)

And all of that, eventually, converges here.

: Redd White is a man who makes his living through intimidation. Bluecorp is a company that excels in finding people's weaknesses, I'm afraid. I've been paying them for 15 years now...



: (15 years...!)
: All because of the "DL-6 Incident," as you may have guessed.
: (The name on the back of those photographs!)
: As you suspected, I could not stand in defense of Maya because of this. White would have destroyed me if I did.
: (So that's the connection!)
: It is hard for me to tell you this, my boy. But arresting Redd White will be nigh on impossible.
: Impossible? Why!?
: He has information on everyone. It gives him an iron grip! He owns judges, attorneys, prosecutors, police... and politicians.
: What!?
: They are bound, unable to do harm to themselves, and therefore, to him. Don't look at me like that. What you see is nothing more than the weight of many years.



: What is the "DL-6 Incident"?
: "DL-6" is nothing more than the sorting code the police gave the case. It was 15 years ago now... I received a request from a medium. A spirit medium.
: (A medium...?)
: Her name was Misty Fey.
: (Fey!)
: Indeed. She was Mia's mother. She had been investigating a murder at the bequest of the police. And... she failed. As a result, the police called her a fraud.
: (This is what Maya was talking about the other day!)
: I did all I could for her, and in the end, cleared her of wrongdoing. That murder case, however remains unsolved to this day. That case, is the DL-6 Incident.



: But why were you blackmailed over this, Mr. Grossberg?
: The DL-6 Incident was top-secret at the time. It made sense. The police didn't want people to know they were using a medium! They couldn't let people know. But one person found out.
: I... I told him.
: You told White?
: He offered me riches... It is an embarrassment to me now. Because I talked, the police were mocked far and wide. In secret, they began looking for the one who sold them out. Of course White heard about it, and he came to me. Only this time, the offer was blackmail.
: ... I see.
: ... White controls the law of this country as he sees fit. Yet if you would still challenge him... Have a close look at Mia's office.
: Mia's office...?
: She followed his every move for years. She may have recorded something of what she found.

That's a good idea.





: Hard to imagine a murder took place here. Mr. Grossberg said there would be clues... Maybe I should have another look.





: All the cases the chief ever worked on are filed here. They're in alphabetical order. Let's take a look...





: Let's see if there's "A" recordi n this file that catches my "I." "A"... "B"... "F"! "Misty Fey." That's Mia and Maya's mother.



: "'I have tarnished the Fey name.' Leaving only these words, my mother vanished. I was determined to find the ones who had made my mother blame herself in this way. Using the E.S.P. that runs in my family, I held an audience with the dead. Finally, the names of two men surfaced. One was Marvin Grossberg, a lawyer who sold my mother's information for riches. The other was the man who sold that information to the press. This parasite, who makes his fortune on threats and coercion... His name is..."
: Hmm. The record stops there. ... So Mia knew Grossberg...



: Let's see... "J" through "S"... Nothing much in here.



: *sigh* Well, no harm in flipping through a bit, I guess... The biggest part's here at the end in "S"... "Suicide"? Eww... She has a collection of suicide reports. There's politicians... policemen... ... ...! There's writing on most of these in pencil. "White"...? This is Mia's handwriting. Wait, I get it! Mia thought he was involved in these "suicides"! White drove them all to...



: ... I can use these newspaper clippings. Hmm... let's find the most disturbing one...





: "T"... "U"... I know, "W"! "White"! ... ! The entire "W" section is missing! Was it taken...?





: Sorry, but there's something I have to ask you.
: Mr. Lawyer, I really hate having to repeat myself...
: But it seems the message has not yet penetrated your thick skull... Stop bothering me!
: If you try my patience further, I fear a nasty accident may occur. Do I make myself clear?
: (Transparent...)



: (This is the only clue that Mia left me... I'd better make this one count!) Mr. White... see this?



: ...
: He was embezzling secret government funds. Then, one day, word get leaked to the press. The very next day he took his own life.
: And this concerns me how...?
: I found this article in Mia's office.
: Miss Mia...?
: She had a file filled with articles like this. Every one of them was labeled with a single word... "White."
: ...!





: You bribed him!
: B-bribed!? ....
: What exactly has led you to say this?
: (Um... gee, that's a good question. I guess I got ahead of myself there...)
: Hmph. You certainly have an active imagination.
: (Dammit!)



: You were spying on him, weren't you?
: "Spying"...?
: You snooped on him, and found out about the embezzlement. Then, when you revealed it, he was driven to suicide!
: Mr. Lawyer. I know nothing of this. And, even in the highly unlikely event that I did do such a thing...
: All I would have done is provide "information." That is not a crime in this country.
: (Gah! This guy's as cool as a cucumber...!)



: You were blackmailing him!
: Blackmail?
: Not just him, either. You were threatening and coercing hundreds of others! You were involved in all of the suicide cases that Mia investigated! This company is built on blackmail! I'm right, aren't I?
: What a bizarre accusation. Mr. Wrong...
: What is it that you should be doing now? Investigating me?
: No no no. I think not!
: You should be searching for the one who killed Miss Mia!



: Mr. Wrong will be leaving now.







: You are absolutely right. I should be looking for the killer now. And actually, I've done better. I've found him. He's sitting right in front of me.



: You're wrong, Mr. White.
: Excuse me?
: What I should be doign now is going after you!

Convergence.

: Just what are you insinuating?
: Mia was on to you. She was keeping tabs. For this reason you had April May tapping her phone. Then, Mia was murdered, and all the documents about you mysteriously disappeared. So, the culprit would be...?
: ...
: Even a child could work it out, Mr. White. You did it!
: ...



: We won't be needing an escort for Mr. Wrong. Instead, please connect me to the public prosecutor's office.









: Hello. Chief Prosecutor? I've changed my mind. I want to testify tomorrow.
: What's this about?
: The Mia Fey case. I witnessed the murder, you see.
: And, thus, as a very important witness, I would like to testify.
: What? Why now? I thought you said you didn't want to go to court?
: Quietude...! I told you I changed my mind, didn't I? Oh, and one other thing. Send the police over here right away.
: The man is standing right in front of me. He looks dazed but could be violent!
: What? What man?
: Are you even listening?



: What!?
: Mr. White... this isn't another one of those...
: Chief Prosecutor.
: I do not believe you are in a position to freely offer your opinions to me, correct?
: I'm telling you to send the police, now!



: ... Did I not tell you, Mr. Wrong? You are a mere lawyer!
: As was Miss Mia.
: How dare you!
: I'll point the finger at you, and you will be tried as Miss Mia's killer! The case is as good as settled. No lawyer of any worth will defend you. I have friends in the local lawyer's association, you see.
: You'll be given a lawyer so stupendously inept that they make even you look competent.
: (I... I feel faint.)



: Aaa! Butz! Hairy Butz!
: Wright, actually. Phoenix Wright. And my friend's name is "Larry"...
: Oh, right! Sorry, pal. Butz was that murderer, right?
: Detective Gumshoe.
: I present to you, the man who killed Miss Mia Fey!
: W-what!?
: Take this despicable human being into custody. ...
: Farewell, Mr. Wrong!





: My trial begins tomorrow. White's going to set a trap for me. And the prosecution will be in on it, of course. Edgeworth, included. An attorney was assigned to me by the state, yesterday. I refused. I had an idea.



: Wright! Mr. Wright!





: Great, they let you out of detention.
: Just now, yes. It's all thanks to you!
: Hah. Now I'm afraid we've switched places.
: What? You mean, you...?



: ...



: How many people does that man need to destroy before he's satisfied!? My mother... My sister... And now you!
: This has gone too far! Mr. Wright, please tell me, is there anything I can do?





: Alright, you can be my defense lawyer tomorrow!
: Alright!
: Huh?
: Leave it to me! I am Mia's sister, after all! Lawyership runs in our blood!
: (Wasn't it E.S.P. that ran in your blood...?)
: I'd better run to the bookstore and pick up a copy of "Law for Rookies."



: Well, you could cheer for me in court.
: Cheer for you? You mean... like a cheerleader?
: Huh? Um, yeah, like that.
: Alright! Leave it to me!
: Huh?
: I'd better go get a uniform and some pom-poms...!



: Right. Okay, listen up. I want you to help me break out of here!
: You mean... a jail break?
: Yeah. Tonight's our only chance!
: Alright!
: Huh?
: Oh, I'd better go get a hacksaw while the stores are still open. Oh, oh! And a rope ladder, and a getaway car! Can you drive?

Convergence.



: W-wait. Wait wait wait.



: I'm kidding! It was a joke!
: No way!
: No really, I was kidding. But thanks. It's good to know you're on my side. (And there really isn't anything you can do for me anyway...)
: But... but I can't just sit here and do nothing!
: I've got to give that man a piece of my mind!
: (Just a piece...?) Okay. Then, come to the court tomorrow.
: O-okay! I'll be there!
: I'll show them a thing or two!



: In fact, it's gotten worse. Lengthy court preceedings are no longer realistic. Beginning a few years ago, a limit of three days was put on initial court trials. Almost all finish in a day. Most with a guilty verdict. I never thought I would end up in the defendant's chair myself.



: This is it! It's me or him!



Next time: Phoenix Wright on Trial.

255 Illinois Comp. Stat. Section 605/18.1 posted:

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(A) "As with many other animals, reptiles carry salmonella bacteria, which can make people sick. Safe reptile-handling steps should be taken to reduce the chance of infection."
(B) "Always wash your hands thoroughly after you handle your pet reptile, its food, and anything it has touched."
(C) "Keep your pet reptile and its equipment out of the kitchen or any area where food is prepared. Kitchen sinks should not be used to bathe reptiles or wash their dishes, cages, or aquariums. If a bathtub is used for these purposes, it should be cleaned thoroughly and disinfected with bleach."
(D) "Don't nuzzle or kiss your pet reptile."
(E) "Keep reptiles out of homes where there are children under 5 years of age or people with weakened immune systems..."
(F) "Pet reptiles should not be allowed in child care centers."
(G) "Pet reptiles should not be allowed to roam freely throughout the home or living area."

Mors Rattus fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Apr 8, 2017

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



Mors Rattus posted:

It is ineffable that she would do this.

I seldom pay attention to mundane details such as time and place.
Are those two like... correct?

Edit - no, I mean... it seems like RW is actually using an applicable word in its correct meaning.

quote:

The hotel bellboy has stated on the record thath e does remember you very clearly.

And, even i nthe highly unlikely event that I did do such a thing...

Xander77 fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Apr 16, 2016

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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The former two are not typos. Redd White's vocabulosity is stupendiferous.

The latter two are.

E: Ah. Anyway, typos are fixed. The second sentence is arguably correct, if insane to say. Ineffable however typically applies to deities and religious stuff.

Mors Rattus fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Apr 16, 2016

Omobono
Feb 19, 2013

That's it! No more hiding in tomato crates! It's time to show that idiota Germany how a real nation fights!

For pasta~! CHARGE!

Xander77 posted:

Are those two like... correct?

A broketen clock is still correcterous twice a day and all that crap.

In alternative, the stupid words are an affectation to pass for an idiot and those questions put him too much on the spot to think of an appropriate Frankenstein-word.


E: actually, now that I think about it would be interesting to see if his stupendiferous vocabulary slides down from the start of the trial to the breakdown.

Suspicious Cook
Oct 9, 2012

Onward to burgers!
I hope when the anime gets to this point they have Phoenix guess Grossberg and White are lovers. Who doesn't pick that option? :allears:

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




Redd White - The Walking Thesaurus

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Suspicious Cook posted:

I hope when the anime gets to this point they have Phoenix guess Grossberg and White are lovers. Who doesn't pick that option? :allears:

It aired today. They didn't have the scene of Phoenix confronting Grossberg, instead Grossberg came to Phoenix and asked him to investigate Redd.

Double Plus Undead
Dec 24, 2010

quote:

Truly a work of art! But, probably too beautacious for oyu to appreciate, correct?

Minor typo.

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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Fixed.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Also, Redd White's Japanese name is Masaru Konaka, which means "Small Medium Large"

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
I like Redd White's English name more than the Japanese one, honestly.

That being said, his word-usage is very confusizzling.

HenryEx
Mar 25, 2009

...your cybernetic implants, the only beauty in that meat you call "a body"...
Grimey Drawer
Excuse me, i think you meant confuscating.

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




Wait, he's constipuzzled? :confused:

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

Suspicious Cook posted:

I hope when the anime gets to this point they have Phoenix guess Grossberg and White are lovers. Who doesn't pick that option? :allears:

Unfortunately, Grossberg was forthcoming about the information instead of Phoenix needing to dig.

But, on the other hand, we did get Redd White at his finest. :allears:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GQ0cKufTDU

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

But, on the other hand, we did get Redd White at his finest. :allears:

Somehow, he manages to sound Texan in his random english. This is both weird and somehow fitting for him :allears:

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
Given Grossberg's history, I wonder why Mia thought he'd be willing to defend Maya. Did she not know about the connection?

Aerdan
Apr 14, 2012

Not Dennis NEDry

Glazius posted:

Given Grossberg's history, I wonder why Mia thought he'd be willing to defend Maya. Did she not know about the connection?

Mia clearly didn't consider any circumstance in which Grossberg'd be unable to come to Maya's assistance.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Aerdan posted:

Mia clearly didn't consider any circumstance in which Grossberg'd be unable to come to Maya's assistance.

They've spent quite a lot of time together. She knew Grossberg would pull through somehow.

"Ah, the days of my youth, like the scent of fresh lemon," you see.

yamiaainferno
Jun 30, 2013

Since Grossberg was her mentor she probably thought he was a better man than he actually is-- that he would stand up for her family due to their connection. Also, in all fairness, it was pretty rotten luck that Redd White of all people decided to frame her for murder.

Double Plus Undead
Dec 24, 2010
It seems weird to call it luck since she was deliberately going after the guy. I'm sure Mia had some contingencies in place, given what she knew.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

I don't think Mia knew Grossberg was under Redd's thumb.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)

Waffleman_ posted:

I don't think Mia knew Grossberg was under Redd's thumb.

She must have, surely. She mentions she knows Grossberg sold her mother out and she knows he sold the story to Redd. She would also have known the police were looking for the person who sold out Misty. And she would obviously have heard if Grossberg were ever found out.

I think she just banked on him having more of a spine.

Nidoking
Jan 27, 2009

I fought the lava, and the lava won.
Maybe she mentioned him not because she thought he would help, but so that whoever did (she probably knew it would be Phoenix) would learn something useful by talking to him.

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.

Nidoking posted:

Maybe she mentioned him not because she thought he would help, but so that whoever did (she probably knew it would be Phoenix) would learn something useful by talking to him.
He did have the files after all. Plus his refusal would be rather strange, laying the ground for further investigation.

Alternatively, Mia is only acting on really, really old information. A sort of 'if you're in any trouble and I can't help you for whatever reason, here's someone I trust.'

whitehelm
Apr 20, 2008
I'm pretty sure Mia knew that Grossberg would help Maya with 99% of the legal situations she could get stuck in, and that's why she told Maya to go to him. Unfortunately she didn't predict that Maya would one day be framed by the one guy who was blackmailing Grossberg.

The Watercrown
Feb 10, 2014

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We Shall Become Gods

WE SHALL ALL DIE AND BECOME AS GODS
Yeah, this isn't a case of "Hey Maya, if Redd White decides for some reason to get you in trouble, Grossberg will help." it's more a case of "Hey Maya, if I'm ever indisposed and you end up in a bind, Grossberg will help." She would likely have changed it to "Pheonix will help" after he'd proven himself in a few more cases.

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Oct 25, 2007

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Case 2- Turnabout Sisters
Trial #2 - Part 1







: Yeah. One way or another, this case gets decided today.
: Aaa! Ph-Phoenix! Look!



: (Prosecutor... Edgeworth.)
: I received a call from the public prosecutor's office yesterday.
: ?





: If I raise an objection, I have it on good faith that the judge will listen to me.
: (What, does White have the judge in his pocket, too!?) So... you're saying I'm going to be guilty. End of story?
: ... I will do anything to get my verdict, Mr. Wright. Anything.
: Why... Why!? How can you torment an innocent person like this!?



: How can we know that? The guilty will always lie, to avoid being found out.
: There's no way to tell who is guilty and who is innocent! All that I can hope to do is get every defendant declared "guilty"!
: So I make that my policy.
: Edgeworth... You've changed.
: Hmm? Phoenix! You know him!?
: Don't expect any special treatment, Phoenix Wright.



: Well... court will be opening for session soon.
: What? But wait!
: Your defense attorney isn't even here yet! He's not...
: I'll be defending myself.



: Okay, let's do this.









: The court is now in session for the trial of Mr. Phoenix Wright.
: The prosecution is ready, Your Honor.
: The defense is ready, Your Honor.
: Mr. Wright... Are you sure you're up to doing this?
: Yes, Your Honor. I will be defending myself.
: Understood.
: Very well. Mr. Edgeworth, your opening statement, please.
: As the details of the event are already quite clear to the court, today we will hear the testimony of another witness to the defendant's crime.
: I see. The prosecution may call its witness.
: (That went far too smoothly!)
: (Why didn't the judge ask Edgeworth why his witness didn't testify before!? It's like... it's like he already knows why!)





: Mr. Edgeworth, you owe an explanation to the court! Why didn't this witness testify in the trial against Ms. Maya Fey!?
: Hmph. I'm ever so sorry! Mr. White is a busy man, and besides... at the time, I thought that Ms. May's opinion was all that would be needed. Again, my sincerest apologies to the court.
: Excellent, Mr. Edgeworth. I appreciate your demeanor.



: (Great. He gets to show off and I get nowhere.)



: (Forget it. I smell a trap.)

Convergence.

: I would like to call Mr. Redd White to the stand.



: Please state your full name.
: You wish to know the title of my personage?



: Er... your name?
: Yes! That is what I said! Oh dear, do my locutions confuse?



: (These two are great together...)
: My name is Redd White. But my friends call me Blanco Nino. I am the CEO, or to use a more common term, the President, of Bluecorp.
: Did you know the victim, Ms. Mia Fey?



: ... You were at the Gatewater Hotel the night of the murder?
: Correct.
: And you witnessed the murder from there?
: Ahem. Why tell you what you already know?
: Very well, Mr. White. You may begin your testimony.
: (If I can't rip this guy's testimony apart, I'm done for.)
: (Why do I always feel like it's the end of the world and I'm the last man standing?)
: Ho hoh hoh.



: I hope you have made your peace with God, Mr. Lawyer!
: ...!

























: Hmm...
: If things occurred as you testify, then I'm afraid the defendant is guilty.
: Very well, defendant... er, I mean, Mr. Wright.
: Your cross-examination...
: Yes, Your Honor.







: How do you know what time it was?
: Because I am always abso-posi-lutely perfect, you know?
: No no no, you're not getting away with that!
: You are so mistrusting, Mr. Lawyer! So... what was the proper term for "secretary" again...?



: It happened soon after the room service arrived.



: True, the bellboy who brought the coffee saw Miss May.
: But he testified that he did not see you at the time!
: Ahem. This is your concern?





: (Hmm...)
: Tell us, what were you doing at that time?





: By window, you mean the one directly across from the Fey & Co. Law Office?
: Correct! That is the only window, you see.
: And there you were reading... papers?
: Correct!
: The Gatewater is a businessman's hotel, and I am a busy man who had business to do!





: A "bedlam"?
: It must have been when you attacked, I assume.
: We see. Continue.





: So you were reading your papers until you heard that sound?
: But of course. I am no snoop, peeping out of windows at night.
: (No snoop? Yeah, right! You've made a career out of snooping!)





: S-spiky-haired!?





: What you just said directly conflicts with Miss May's testimony! Miss May clearly stated that the assailant looked like a "girl"!



: Just what is your eyesight?



: Counting both eyes... 40!
: 40!? Don't add them together!
: I think the witness is trying to say his eyesight is good.
: (Hey, whose side is the judge on, anyway?)
: And what did you do then?





: What was Miss May doing at that time?
: She had just finished watching a soap opera on the TV, and was weeping openly.
: Did you know she had been tapping the Fey office phone?



: Irrelevant! That has nothing to do with the case at hand!



: Miss May was acting alone when she tapped the phone of this Fey woman.
: You'd make a good politician, Mr. White.
: Ho hoh! After all, I am "El Presidente."
: Please continue.





: Can you be a little more detailed about that? I think it's worth knowing exactly what happened.
: Of course! Comprende! I understand!



: You gave chase, and struck her down!
: Are you sure?



: As you know, I am always abso-posi-lutely perfect!
: Perhaps you could change your testimony to reflect this new detail.





: Are you sure about that?
: How many times must I say it?



: I am abso-posi-lutely perfect! End of story!
: (How many times must I hear that?)



: Doesn't something about that strike you as a little odd?





: Um... "impaction"? Don't you mean just "impact"?
: Ridiculosity! I think you need to brush up on your language skills!
: (On second thought, perhaps I'd better leave the whole language thing alone...)

And we loop.

: (Did Edgeworth "prep" this guy, too, I wonder? Anyway, I'd better find a weakness in there...)

Have you spotted it?















: Wait right there! Mr. White, you've dug your own grave!
: What is this!?



: But that directly contradicts Miss May's testimony!





: ...! Oh hoh hoh. It is simple. You have misheard her.
: I think not. Look at the floor plans...







: She would have been running directly away from the door! She would have been running into a dead end! Don't you find that odd?





: I did see her run to the left... I did.
: Phoenix... look at his face. I don't think he's lying about this one.



: (Maybe he really did see the victim run left...? So he did witness the killing...? Wait a second!)
: Mr. Wright?
: Yes, Your Honor?
: Miss May says "right," and Mr. White says "left."





: As Mr. White has testified, Mia ran to the left.
: But... But if that's the case...
: Why would she run in the opposite direction from the door?
: She did not. She was running towards the door, Your Honor.
: Bwah! Now you're the one making a contradiction, Mr. Wright!
: Not at all.



: As Miss May has stated, Mia ran to the right after she was attacked.
: What is this? I am not fashioning fabrications, I assure you! That lady ran to the left! I am sure of it!
: Then there can be only one explanation.
: Eh...? And that is?



: Both witnesses are telling the truth. (For once...)



: Er, rather, that does not clear up the contradiction.
: There is one scenario that would explain their conflicting accounts.
: What!?

Convergence.

: Obviously, the witness was not viewing the crime from the hotel!





: Mr. Wright! What do you mean?
: Yes, what do you mean, he was not "viewing the crime from the hotel"!?
: If he was not in the hotel, where could he have been!?
: In the law offices of Fey & Co., of course!





: More specifically, he was standing here!





: This is where he was!





: If he was watching from this point, to him it would appear that she ran to the "left."
: Please! This is no time for jokes in ill taste!









: Order! I will have order! Anyone disturbing the order of this courtroom will be held in contempt!
: Mr. Wright! What are you suggesting?





: The postulations of the defense are a distortion of the truth, Your Honor!
: Indeed. They do seem a bit far-fetched...
: ...



: You provide us with so much entertainment, Mr. Lawyer!
: (What now!? He's... laughing!?)
: The hilarity of the moment made me remember something... It appears I have been unclear, and for this, I apologize.
: Mr. Your Honor... Might I be allowed to testify once more?
: Very well, let's hear your revised testimony.
: (Good luck. You can't fix a broken testimony, buddy!)





















: Hmm... That does seem to make sense.
: Will you be cross-examining the witness's testimony?
: You bet I will! I mean, yes, Your Honor.







: What do you mean by that!



: You Americans, always so impatient! It does not become you.
: (Hey buddy, you're an American, too!)





: What do you mean "first"?
: "First"? That is what comes before what happens "next." You do speak English, right?
: Please, sit back, relax. I will try to use simple words for your benefit. First, she ran to the left, and then...





: I didn't hit anyone!



: I'm not hiding anything!



: The prosecution requests that the defense refrain from interrupting the testimony!
: Mr. Wright, you have been warned.
: (Why's he mad at me!?)





: What do you mean "next"!?
: "Next" is what comes after "first."
: I know that!
: Then that is all you need to know, Mr. Lawyer.
: As I said, she turned and made a desperate dash to the right.





: Stop saying it was me!



: But, it was you.



: Mr. Wright! If you claim that it was NOT you, then show us proof!
: (Argh! Can I do nothing right? Nothing!?)
: May I continue?





: So each of you saw different parts...?
: Abso-posi-lutely! That's right, of course!
: (Where did he pick up that annoying phrase...?)
: Anyway, moving along!





: So were you watching both times?
: I suppose I was.
: And please excuse me for not testifying to this sooner!

And we loop - they actually cut off the last bit of his testimony for some reason.

: What do you think Phoenix?
: I think we've got him right where we want him! He slipped! Let him laugh for now. I'll soon wipe that smile off his face!

Next time: Doing that. But how?

Louisiana Rev. Stat., Section 4:81 posted:

Open betting or quoting of odds; insulting or abusive remarks [related to boxing or wrestling matches]
A. There shall be no open betting or quoting of odds in the club or arena where the exhibition or contest is being held. Whoever does so shall be ejected.
B. There shall be no insulting or abusive remarks made by seconds, managers, or spectators and directed at the contestants. The officers of the club and the attending member of the commission shall at once eject persons who violate this or any other provision of this Chapter.

Mors Rattus fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Apr 20, 2016

Tax Refund
Apr 15, 2011

The IRS gave me a refund. I spent it on this SA account. What was I thinking?!
Speculation time again!

Mr. White is claiming that Phoenix hit her twice. But the autopsy report, which we've used once already in this case, says that the victim died of "single blunt force trauma". That should be enough to prove that this statement is a lie. We'll see what the next lie ends up being.

theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!

Mors Rattus posted:





: S-spiky-haired!?
I love how that's the entire Press for this line :allears:

Oblivion4568238
Oct 10, 2012

The Inquisition.
What a show.
The Inquisition.
Here. We. Go.
College Slice

Mors Rattus posted:

: Hmph. I'm ever so sorry! Mr. White is a busy man, and besides... at te time, I thought that Ms. May's opinion was all that would be needed. Again, my sincerest apologies to the court.

: (Why do I always feel like it's the end of hte world and I'm the last man standing?)

: The hilarity of the moment mad eme remember something... It appears I have been unclear, and for this, I apologize.

: Mr. Wright, youy have been warned.

A few typos, and...

Mors Rattus posted:

: Please, sit back, relax. I will try to use simple words for your benefit. First, she ran to the left, and then...





: I didn't hit anyone!

I feel like that second image of White ought to instead be an image that goes with the line "And then you hit her, savagely! That is what I saw." from the testimony.

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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Should all be fixed now.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
Ah, I forgot how magical Redd White on the stand was. Though, they don't actually have any evidence implicating Phoenix of the crime, in hindsight.

Did you mean to put "te ti" at the end of your update?

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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...no.

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




Hobgoblin2099 posted:

Ah, I forgot how magical Redd White on the stand was. Though, they don't actually have any evidence implicating Phoenix of the crime, in hindsight.

Did you mean to put "te ti" at the end of your update?

In Japanifornia law, a witness's testimony is worth at least as much as a piece of evidence unless it's contradicted at least three by other testimonies/evidence. :eng101:

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
It's gotta be him saying she was struck twice contradicting the autopsy report(s) right?

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
Wow. Dude thinks he's so invincible that he doesn't even bother to coach his testimony and relies on his first instincts, as the actual killer.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Glazius posted:

Wow. Dude thinks he's so invincible that he doesn't even bother to coach his testimony and relies on his first instincts, as the actual killer.

This is why he's the villain of the first real case in the series (the tutorial was added in later)

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Shiki Dan
Oct 27, 2010

If ya can move ya toes ya back's fine
White is powerful, connected, and dangerous...but also a total loving moron.

That certainly won't be the case for later antagonists.

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