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Fruity Rudy
Oct 8, 2008

Taste The Rainbow!
January 2017, after trashing a vulnerable, scandal plagued establishment candidate after an economic crash, Trump wins and assumes control as the United States Commander in Chief. What happens next? Does Trump actually build a massive wall? Does he attempt to deport 11 million immigrants? Do cops continue to rally around him after ramping up death penalty crimes? Does he enact a ban on Muslims entering the U.S.? What happens to foreign policy in the middle east, China and Russia? What happens to climate policy and health care? Does the American military follow his commands to commit war crimes and atrocities in the name of his nationalist policies?

Making the following assumptions:
- Trump's win makes him defacto leader of the GOP and is able to hire and fire whoever fits his agenda.
- The GOP controls both the House and the Senate as it does now.

What does the first year of a Trump lead United States government look like?

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shiksa
Nov 9, 2009

i went to one of these wrestling shows and it was... honestly? frickin boring. i wanna see ricky! i want to see his gold chains and respect for the ftw lifestyle
https://twitter.com/JebBush/status/699706718419345408

Maoist Pussy
Feb 12, 2014

by Lowtax
GOP Congress blocks Trump for two years, but then he calls on his insane supporters to individually target recalcitrant Congressmen in 2018 races. Congress bends the knee and America blooms with massive public works projects. China is forced to implement labor and environmental protections in order to be allowed access to the US market. Europe flails under wave after wave of unassimilable peoples and random terrorism, but is eventually righted after agreeing to an artfully negotiated deal to merge with the United States. Jobs and MDMA return, millenials learn to shave, peace, prosperity and threesomes sweep the Western world. Eventually, immigration is opened to women and children from the Middle East. ISIS destroys itself in a squall of beardy male-on-male sexual violence.

That DICK!
Sep 28, 2010

January 25, 2025: Arch-Emperor Trump ascends to his Diamond Throne on Mars

crabcakes66
May 24, 2012

by exmarx

Maoist Pussy posted:

millenials learn to shave

Alright fuckstick. Let's not get too crazy here.

Microwaves Mom
Nov 8, 2015

by zen death robot
I write a letter to President Trump asking for a cabinet position and telling him I'll make things great because I'm young, ambitious, and gonna make it great. Cause that's what america is about.

Then I pray he accepts me and begin making America great.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
Trump takes credit for the Final Fantasy VII remake, even though it was developed during the previous administration.

Microwaves Mom
Nov 8, 2015

by zen death robot

Craptacular! posted:

Trump takes credit for the Final Fantasy VII remake, even though it was developed during the previous administration.

Trump bans foreign anime and begins america's largest production of home grown anime ever seen.

Archonex
May 2, 2012

MY OPINION IS SEERS OF THE THRONE PROPAGANDA IGNORE MY GNOSIS-IMPAIRED RAMBLINGS

Microwaves Mom posted:

Trump bans foreign anime and begins america's largest production of home grown anime ever seen.

One might even call it the yoogest and most luxurious anime to ever be made.

Peel
Dec 3, 2007

Trump instructs the Fed to steal a hundred billion dollars for a border wall from Mexico, and is impeached in the ensuing financial and diplomatic crisis.

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
Everyone smart moves to Canada because by gum if America will have a racist, sexist, anti-gay president! Nope, never had one before, not gonna start now!

Also he wants to have sex with his own daughter! And put muslims in concentration camps! And do a Mexican genocide! He has left no uncertainty in this!

Clinton Bush Obama Trump=second coming of antichrist and Hitler AND Mussolini JUNIOR???

Just follow the money............................................................

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003
trump merges with sandtrout

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison
Everything is basically the same.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 2 hours!
All federal property renamed after Trump. The Trump Federal Building, the Trump Smithsonian, the Trump Lincoln Memorial.

Sergg
Sep 19, 2005

I was rejected by the:

He'll appoint a bunch of idiots to cabinet level positions and stay beholden to his conservative insane voter base but move to the center on most social issues. It'll basically be as disastrous as the Bush 2 presidency was, except he will use his personal wealth and voterbase to primary all the Republicans that oppose him and thus destroy the party even worse than 2008 did.

Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009

Sergg posted:

He'll appoint a bunch of idiots to cabinet level positions and stay beholden to his conservative insane voter base but move to the center on most social issues. It'll basically be as disastrous as the Bush 2 presidency was, except he will use his personal wealth and voterbase to primary all the Republicans that oppose him and thus destroy the party even worse than 2008 did.

would he really go to war?

Al!
Apr 2, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 2 hours!

Terror Sweat posted:

would he really go to war?

is a man who got elected on sheer egomania going to want a military conquest under his name?

Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009

Al! posted:

is a man who got elected on sheer egomania going to want a military conquest under his name?

war has destroyed the bush legacy. would he risk that?

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

America is made to be great again

Al!
Apr 2, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 2 hours!

Terror Sweat posted:

war has destroyed the bush legacy. would he risk that?

on the iraq war, the big criticism the right was that bush did not go far enough. trump has advocated executing prisoners of war with bullets dipped in pigs blood, i don't think he will have that problem.

PsychoInternetHawk
Apr 4, 2011

Perhaps, if one wishes to remain an individual in the midst of the teeming multitudes, one must make oneself grotesque.
Grimey Drawer
I think there's a genuinely strong chance he unleashes a major constitutional crisis entirely by accident. Every time he's served up softball questions about the basic nuts and bolts of being president he seems flustered and just responds with an inane stream of words. I don't think he really knows the exact duties and responsibilities of the job, just that it's yooge and powerful, but refuses to acknowledge this to himself and thus won't bother researching it. He's going to need to be treated like a baby during every step of his presidency just so the federal government can even approach a functioning state.

Most of his business success comes from copying existing ideas (big skyscraper, flashy casino, cheap neckties) and throwing money at people to apply an extra layer of Trump glitz. His policy proposals are the exact opposite; they're so radical that nothing like them has ever been attempted. The Wall will end up symbolizing just how much Trump is out of his element: it'll be an incredibly overpriced, nearly useless boondoggle. Trump will either be fleeced horribly by contractors who know they won't suffer consequences as long as they kiss the ring, or allow incompetent true believers to ruin his plans.

PsychoInternetHawk has issued a correction as of 16:44 on Mar 6, 2016

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

Al! posted:

on the iraq war, the big criticism the right was that bush did not go far enough. trump has advocated executing prisoners of war with bullets dipped in pigs blood, i don't think he will have that problem.

those are some bad words, sort of like his talk about killing the families of terrorists

meanwhile the actual leading Democrat in office actually has, not just talked about it, but actually did, murder American citizens without any legal proceedings including someone who said bad things and then murdered his teenage child for being his child


but yeah, what's important is we maintain the cheerleading myth that all republicans are a priori bad and all democrats are good YAAAAAS I LIKE POLITICS go team!

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

PsychoInternetHawk posted:

I think there's a genuinely strong chance he unleashes a major constitutional crisis entirely by accident. Every time he's served up softball questions about the basic nuts and bolts of being president he seems flustered and just responds with an inane stream of words. I don't think he really knows the exact duties and responsibilities of the job, just that it's yooge and powerful, but refuses to acknowledge this to himself and thus won't bother researching it. He's going to need to be treated like a baby during every step of his presidency just so the federal government can even approach a functioning state.

maybe he does know these things, and part of the job is surrounding yourself with a team of experts and advisors

however, part of the job is also pushing the limits of the office, like George W Bush used John Woo to push the limits of what could legally be done with regards to torture and Barack Obama pushing the limits of what could be done with regards to extrajudicial assassination

it's like, if Obama, while running for president, said "I intend to use my executive authority to create a kill list, a list of people who I will kill without going through the court system, and if anyone uses their words to attack America I will kill them and their kids as well", well surely some liberals might have be given pause, but instead he just loving did it and every milquetoast liberal just went along with it because :buddy: YAAAAASE :h: DEMOCRATS

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Trump nationalizes Gander Mountain.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 2 hours!

Commie NedFlanders posted:

those are some bad words, sort of like his talk about killing the families of terrorists

meanwhile the actual leading Democrat in office actually has, not just talked about it, but actually did, murder American citizens without any legal proceedings including someone who said bad things and then murdered his teenage child for being his child


but yeah, what's important is we maintain the cheerleading myth that all republicans are a priori bad and all democrats are good YAAAAAS I LIKE POLITICS go team!

i see white nationalism as the biggest threat to me and the people i love. hillary has done a lot of evil poo poo and 8 years or so ago i would have said throw her into the creek, but she is not actively advancing the cause of white nationalism regardless of these anecdotes you are threatening but being nonspecific about, and yes i understand that under her husband things actually got worse for the poor and minorities.

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




I'll probably get up and go to work like I do every day. Maybe I'll skip breakfast.

Nasty poo poo goes on in Washington every day and we all still go about our boring lives.

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

Commie NedFlanders posted:

maybe he does know these things, and part of the job is surrounding yourself with a team of experts and advisors

however, part of the job is also pushing the limits of the office, like George W Bush used John Woo to push the limits of what could legally be done with regards to torture and Barack Obama pushing the limits of what could be done with regards to extrajudicial assassination

it's like, if Obama, while running for president, said "I intend to use my executive authority to create a kill list, a list of people who I will kill without going through the court system, and if anyone uses their words to attack America I will kill them and their kids as well", well surely some liberals might have be given pause, but instead he just loving did it and every milquetoast liberal just went along with it because :buddy: YAAAAASE :h: DEMOCRATS

If I give you a gun and you shoot yourself, is it my fault for giving you the gun or your fault for using it improperly?

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison
Obama has rolled back some of Bush's extensions of executive power and extended others; on one hand, the legislative branch is full of gibbering baboons who should be kept as far from the levers of power as possible, on the other it's highly problematic that our polarized system of governance is leading to further concentrations of wealth and power

in summary kill whitey, full communism now

PsychoInternetHawk
Apr 4, 2011

Perhaps, if one wishes to remain an individual in the midst of the teeming multitudes, one must make oneself grotesque.
Grimey Drawer
I expanded on this more up above, but Trump doesn't surround himself with people who know what they're doing. He surrounds himself with toadies and sycophants, which is fine for his usual line of business, but will work out hilariously badly because what he's proposing is so radical.

Regarding Bush and Woo, sure if there's another 9/11 Trump can probably get a free pass on a lot of his actions, and whatever expansion of exectuive power he manages to stake in that scenario will probably apply to the next president too, but that's not really unique to him.

*edit* what Fitzy Fitz said is probaby true for a lot of people though: if you're white, not poor, and live in a state that won't gut itself at the first opportunity ala Kansas, your life will probably be exactly the same.

PsychoInternetHawk has issued a correction as of 16:54 on Mar 6, 2016

mannerup
Jan 11, 2004

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c-span becomes the best reality show on television and gets record high ratings

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

Al! posted:

i see white nationalism as the biggest threat to me and the people i love. hillary has done a lot of evil poo poo and 8 years or so ago i would have said throw her into the creek, but she is not actively advancing the cause of white nationalism regardless of these anecdotes you are threatening but being nonspecific about, and yes i understand that under her husband things actually got worse for the poor and minorities.

see that's the thing, i understand the threat of white nationalist rhetoric and yes it is bad.

however, i am more fearful about secret, underhanded policies which in their effects do what white nationalism aims to do.

Neoliberalism has done more to entrench de facto white supremacy and dismantle poor communities than any other movement in the last 50 years.


It's like, what's more damaging to the nation, someone who says racist things or someone who says politically correct things and puts into place large scale policies which help the wealthy white ruling class and hurts the working class and minority communities.



I agree that rhetoric isn't empty, and it does have an effect, but I find friendly political correct rhetoric mixed with dangerous neoliberal economic policies to be the most dangerous because the rhetoric disables the left wing and empowers the right wing while the policies actively help the ruling class and hurt the disadvantaged groups

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

uncurable mlady posted:

Obama has rolled back some of Bush's extensions of executive power and extended others; on one hand, the legislative branch is full of gibbering baboons who should be kept as far from the levers of power as possible, on the other it's highly problematic that our polarized system of governance is leading to further concentrations of wealth and power

in summary kill whitey, full communism now

the democrats path of "neoliberalism with a politically correct, smiling face" is extremely dangerous and underhanded and flies under the radar of most people because the rhetoric is nice and sounds good to young people

The republicans are obviously bad too, but the answer isn't just aimless violence and throwing fits


there needs to be a calculated and focused effort from the left wing to systematically deconstruct neoliberal ideology and policies


the answer isn't impotent flailing in the dark, it's sitting and thinking and reexamining our assumptions. It's impossible to find the correct solutions to problems if we are asking the wrong questions and everybody just wants ACTION NOW without examining our initial positions. this is how you find your way further and further down the wrong path

Al!
Apr 2, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 2 hours!
i don't disagree that either candidate will enact horribly regressive economic policies that will ultimately damage the economic rights of everybody in this country.

but the thing is, when these are done in the name of white nationalism, the ideologies of white nationalism get the credit when they have limited in the short term (but ultimately disastrous) benefits. when of course they do fail, the blame is always solidly put on not going far enough because we were doing great when we were making changes right?

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

Chaos reigns.

ur in my world now
Jun 5, 2006

Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was


Smellrose
Laughing as he brutally pwns the country that was dumb enough to vote for him.

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN
There will probably be a brief period of relative unity as the GOP breathes a huge sigh of relief and enjoys the thrill of controlling all three branches of government. Trump will probably pick a suitably conservative Justice to appoint to the Supreme Court, hoping to buy himself some favour with movement conservatives. Chances are he will deploy some half measures on immigration that will deeply upset the hispanic community and activists but which will disappoint the alt right. Trump will instruct the GOP to repeal Obamacare but the insurance industry will kick up a fuss and it wouldn't surprise me if Trump ends up trying to put lipstick on a pig by assuring his supporters that some minor revisions to the law count as a total overhaul.

The really interesting question is how Trump's foreign policy plays out. He could face a lot of resistance from within the GOP to the tariffs he's proposing. Because Trump is such a one man show and isn't really representing any kind of organic cohesive movement it's really hard to know which of his positions are deeply held and which are superficial. We'll find out though because his economic and foreign policy proposals are so far outside the current Overton window of policy that if he does try to implement them (a big if, but hardly inconceivable if we're in a world where Trump already won) then who knows what that will look like.

It'd definitely be more interesting than a Hilary or Obama presidency, and more entertaining than a Sanders administration. I doubt I'll envy anyone actually living in the USA though.

baw
Nov 5, 2008

RESIDENT: LAISSEZ FAIR-SNEZHNEVSKY INSTITUTE FOR FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY
it would be the greatest spectacle the world has ever seen

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

Commie NedFlanders posted:

the democrats path of "neoliberalism with a politically correct, smiling face" is extremely dangerous and underhanded and flies under the radar of most people because the rhetoric is nice and sounds good to young people

The republicans are obviously bad too, but the answer isn't just aimless violence and throwing fits


there needs to be a calculated and focused effort from the left wing to systematically deconstruct neoliberal ideology and policies


the answer isn't impotent flailing in the dark, it's sitting and thinking and reexamining our assumptions. It's impossible to find the correct solutions to problems if we are asking the wrong questions and everybody just wants ACTION NOW without examining our initial positions. this is how you find your way further and further down the wrong path

I think there's probably a good discussion to be had here but lol trump gonna show his dick at the sotu and piss on the Chinese flag

The Saurus
Dec 3, 2006

by Smythe
Trump's lifelong hatred of unfair trade:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSIQZFHharA

Leads him to put tarriffs on foreign goods to bring domestic production and manufacturing back to America.

This, combined with the legalization of marijuana at the federal level, leads to a golden age of smoking the dankest American-grown nugs in the finest American-made glass bongs.

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Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

Al! posted:

i don't disagree that either candidate will enact horribly regressive economic policies that will ultimately damage the economic rights of everybody in this country.

but the thing is, when these are done in the name of white nationalism, the ideologies of white nationalism get the credit when they have limited in the short term (but ultimately disastrous) benefits. when of course they do fail, the blame is always solidly put on not going far enough because we were doing great when we were making changes right?

perhaps then, what's needed is for the left to stop defending status quo policies and theory and get their poo poo together and start formulating their own good arguments and positions and advocating for those instead?

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