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Orange DeviI
Nov 9, 2011

by Hand Knit

AlexanderCA posted:

I make 1600 euros a month lol (admittedly part time), my dad was a car mechanic who died young and my mom is a cleaning lady. I'm curious how you would define high middle class.

You need to make at least 2k a month before you qualify to pick a class. I suggest mage, enchanter, or necromancer in today's meta. Physical-focused classes aren't doing so great right now, but a future patch might change that.

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Orange DeviI
Nov 9, 2011

by Hand Knit

GABA ghoul posted:

hoooooo boy do I have bad news for you about what they will call the decade where living standards dropped by half, a banana or a steak costed a tenth of a monthly wage and the government put grandma and grandpa into concentration camps for counter-revolutionary activities/protesting

Depending on where you live and who you are, this will either be referred to as 'a market correction' or 'The After-Times'.

Cingulate posted:

GABA ghoul's the only one who has posted any data here, right?

Badly selected and dishonestly framed data is worse than no data

Yes I know these are replies to posts from ages ago, gently caress you I was at work

Orange DeviI
Nov 9, 2011

by Hand Knit

GABA ghoul posted:

lmao, that's loving gold. bringing up numbers on public spending when discussing public spending is now badly selected and dishonestly framed data. Absolutely amazing. Not as good as that one goon who outright came out of the closet and just said that facts are bullshit because they contradict his assumptions and that we should not care about facts. But still pretty amazing

You obviously pulled that chart off of Google after 5 seconds of 'research', because if you had any education or knowledge on the subject matter at all, you'd realize that with an on average ageing population like in Europe due to low birth rates, the baby boom, and curtailed immigration not making up for it, health care expenditures are supposed to rise, and by a huge amount at that. A steady increase of public spending on health care inherently doesn't prove anything regarding breadth of care, how high-tech the care is, how good the care is, it only proves that the population is older on average and will consume more care than a younger population. A lot of this public spending is going to relatively low-tech care for the elderly, which is being paid for by cuts in other places (for example in the form of increased co-pays and selling off of services/privatization). The inability to think of this connection and to instead go 'public spending UP means health care UP' really shows your and your crony Cingulate's whole rear end. An increase in public spending does not immediately translate to the quality of care, and even 'quality of care' itself is vastly different depending on socio-economic class (even public spending is earmarked) and age (a lot of it is going towards care for olds, who don't post here, which means you're tossing around arguments which don't even apply to the people you're flinging them at).

I'm a European health care professional and before you reply, let me interrupt you. I'm not here to convince you, or to play pretend debate club with anyone, I'm just here to make fun of your post. It's very bad, and it's also very funny, and one day you will understand why it's so funny. Anyway, if you were interested in figuring things out, you wouldn't be posting charts from 2014 and drawing unfounded conclusions from them. You also should have learned in high school that randomly citing a chart with numbers on it (how is this impressive? How is this something to proudly reply to with 'wow! He's the only one who posted numbers!'?!) isn't a shortcut to a functioning argument, but public spending on education is another story entirely.

Orange DeviI
Nov 9, 2011

by Hand Knit

Cingulate posted:

I don't understand the psychological reason for why some people experience this intense desire to tear down others.

Just talk about socialism, if you like it so much! Why be this mad at other people? It's weird.

You don't understand because to you and people like you, health care politics is just a game with made-up rules and irrelevant results. Next time just post 'u mad', you don't need to fluff up your post with unnecessary prose in order to make it look like you've got something to say.

Orange DeviI
Nov 9, 2011

by Hand Knit

Nilbop posted:

I'm just happy to correct oliwan's insane statement that the man who lead a country for 25 years was "some random 95 year old dude."

I mixed up my country's in my post and apologized. Mea culpa.

I don't think you are qualified to correct anyone on anything and I think you should stop posting

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Orange DeviI
Nov 9, 2011

by Hand Knit

suck my woke dick posted:

It has taken hundreds of years to kick the various christian groups' poo poo in hard enough that their staff by and large keep their heads down and don't try to seriously stir poo poo up anymore

Which reality are you describing because it's not the one you or I are inhabiting

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Orange DeviI
Nov 9, 2011

by Hand Knit
With the brits finally gone, let’s just take their language and make it the EUs official language, because this stupid bullshit of having two dozen languages/dialects is helping nobody

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