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Xoidanor posted:Unless Paris is turning into Baghdad anytime soon the second-hand smoke will kill more people than any terror attack ever would. It's just such a weird policy decision. It's security theater, same as extending the state of emergency every 3 months until Daesh is destroyed (as the Prime Minister said) and putting Muslims under house arrest because they shaved their beards. Edit: You want weird policy decisions? They're allowing cops to request to take their guns home now, in case a terrorist tries to shoot them on the way to/from the police station (happened to one cop during the Charlie Hebdo attack). What if the policemen have kids and no place to store their gun safely? gently caress knows. Kassad fucked around with this message at 10:30 on Mar 18, 2016 |
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It was just two weeks into the state of emergency when the minister of the Interior had to remind local police authorities that "the state of emergency does not suspend the rule of law" when it came to conducting raids on businesses and homes. The land of human rights  In more recent news, there's this video of cops showing up with riot guns during a trade union meeting in a post office warehouse (in French, obviously): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Riv8wN7zQ3U&t=520s Big up on the trade union guy for walking up to the cops and telling them to get the hell out.
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Pretty much. We'd be invading and bombing random countries too, but with budget constraints being what they are...
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quote:Jean Christoph Fiedler, the NPD’s leader in the Hesse region, told the Frankfurter Rundschau newspaper that the Syrians had “likely performed a very good, humane deed”. What a petty rear end in a top hat.
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Mar 23, 2016 11:35
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They're defending the purity of German culture through drinking beer and driving with no speed limit, I guess?
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Mar 23, 2016 11:46
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waitwhatno posted:Ugh, this entire article is based on the belief in a conspiracy theory about Islam criticism being somehow suppressed by a PC-mad media. Like all conspiracy theories, it completely falls apart if you spend ten minutes researching the subject. That's something French pundits and a significant part of our political class has clearly decided not to bother doing anymore. That opinion piece isn't surprising in this context, it's pretty fashionable to imply the state's been too tolerant of Muslims these days.
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Apr 3, 2016 16:07
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It's cute to see people talk about Haiti and Brazil when France and the UK still controls several islands in the West Indies populated by the descendants of African slaves.
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Apr 3, 2016 21:04
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blowfish posted:Probably someone tried to sneak the bill through out of normal working hours. That bill's been debated for months, not a chance. Odds are it's just that it passing was a foregone conclusion and so most representatives didn't even bother to show for the final vote. You'd think the national legislature would require a minimum % of representatives to be present for a bill to be legit but 
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ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:This or maybe being a politician and associated with prostitution for any reason is a bad idea in twenty sixteen France. That seems dubious. It's not the first time a bill passes with barely anyone present for the vote, for one. In fact, I think the Socialist Party representatives trolled Sarkozy once by turning up unexpectedly for a vote, so that they outnumbered the UMP representatives although the latter were the majority. Didn't change anything since they just voted again later, but it was funny at the time.
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Apr 7, 2016 14:31
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LemonDrizzle posted:Original source not linked, but, uh... wow: Can't say I'm surprised, his approval rating has been beyond abysmal for years (it went down to 20% back in 2013). This is actually higher than it was before the terrorist attacks in November, if I remember correctly. It was about 16% back then, I think. Most unpopular president since the establishment of the fifth republic. It's simple, really: he ran for election on the promise of reducing unemployment. We're four years in and unemployment is as high as ever. Unless he pulls a million jobs out of his rear end in the next three months, he's failed horribly. blowfish posted:Hollande always had the charisma of a wet paper bag. Did he get elected on the platform of not-Sarkozy or did people ever have a positive opinion of him? Don't think so. And he destroyed even that when he started proposing policies that are indistinguishable from some of Sarkozy's. Or courting the right to prolong his idiotic state of emergency (the 3 months one, not the one instituted as an immediate response) after the November attacks.
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But Lebanon can, on account of being much wealthier and stable than the EU.
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Apr 17, 2016 07:54
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Baxta posted:Every other continent has done sweet gently caress all and aren't copping anywhere near the same sort of backlash. Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey (the part where refugees are, at least) are in Asia.
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Apr 17, 2016 12:22
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France's senate voted to extend the state of emergency until the end of July. Now it's going back to the lower house for the final vote (a formality).
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May 10, 2016 15:36
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It's security theater. It's also worth noting that France's been on high alert for terrorist attacks for over a decade before the Charlie Hebdo massacre.
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May 10, 2016 18:36
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ElNarez posted:French politics! https://twitter.com/HouseofCards/status/730375464590684160 https://twitter.com/manuelvalls/status/730391854085222400
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May 11, 2016 15:22
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That's what a left-wing party should do, yes. It's pretty clear why it was never gonna happen to Valls.
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May 12, 2016 16:48
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Libluini posted:Back when I was in the Bundeswehr, one of the buildings I had to guard had a poster detailing something ludicrous like 20 stages of alert for Germany. We were at stage 3 at some point, but our effort in Afghanistan raised this to 5 for nebulous reasons. Over the years, I hazily recall our dear leaders talking about raising the terror-alert one or two times. So if this is true, Germany is now at terror alert 7 (out of 20). Still saner than being at the equivalent of stage 21 on that scale, like France since last November.
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May 18, 2016 13:16
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It's just been reported that there will also be strikes in EDF power stations, including one nuclear power plant.
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May 24, 2016 21:04
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Shazback posted:There was a vote, a vote that failed because of whatever reason, and as a result the government has the right to implement the law. For those curious, "whatever reason" is that the Socialist Party and its coalition partners hold a relative majority of seats in the National Assembly. That vote of no confidence could only have succeeded if dissenting socialist representatives voted against their own cabinet. There has literally never been a case where a vote of no confidence following the use of article 49.3 was successful. It's effectively a way to bypass a vote safely. Xoidanor posted:Anything that requires a majority to vote against it rather than for it to pass walks a pretty thin line on how democratic it is. In this case it clearly was nowhere near that line. The policy is massively unpopular both in parliament and public as far as I've understood it and would likely not pass without using the exemption. This can't be overstated: estimates were that 80-some Socialist representatives would have voted for this bill, out of nearly 300 representatives in the socialist coalition. The vote of no confidence allowed a lot of socialist representatives to avoid voting for this extremely unpopular bill.
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May 24, 2016 22:28
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TheIllestVillain posted:Do the PS pay attention to the polls at all cause they look they will get absolutely wrecked next year. There was a quote from an unnamed advisor to Hollande floating around Twitter yesterday. To paraphrase: if Hollande backs down on this bill, he's screwed in 2017. I don't know what planet they live on. My guess is that they're banking on Hollande facing off against Marine Le Pen during the second turn of the presidential elections. Edit: Or they're hoping making more empty promises will work. They brought up the idea of letting foreign residents vote in local elections, again. That's been a recurring promise since 1981. Kassad fucked around with this message at 13:11 on May 25, 2016 |
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Please. Dictatorship of the proletariat or bust  The CGT leader even has a Stalinesque moustache, c'mon: 
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Friendly Humour posted:Now there's an election photo. This one is better:  Used in an article in a right-wing (of course) newspaper with the headline: "Philippe Martinez, the man who wants to bring France to its knees". Look at that scary finger-pointing lefty 
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Cat Mattress posted:If you really want to imitate China's growth, it's really easy: first, you've got to dismantle all your industries and infrastructures to set your GDP back to as close to 0 as possible, and then you can get an astounding growth rate as you rebuild! Well that's what austerity is when taken to its logical extreme, isn't it? That's pretty much how the British ruined India, too. It's consistent.
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Jun 11, 2016 13:39
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Real answer: It's the locations of terrorist attacks by islamists. In France, Montauban and Toulouse are the attacks by Mohammed Merah while Paris is the Charlie Hebdo and Hypercacher attacks. Joue-les-Tours was an attempted stabbing and Dijon was a motorist who plowed into a crowd and isn't considered a terror attack anymore IIRC. The map is from before the attacks in Paris last November, I think.
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It's the 2011 Frankfurt Airport shooting Edit: Not sure why London and Madrid aren't on the map either. Maybe it's only attacks that happened since 2010.
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Jun 15, 2016 22:41
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Tesseraction posted:I have to admit my disdain for the EU's lack of democracy in the upper echelons is balanced out somewhat by my disdain for the average The problem is that the bureaucrats are also morons and don't even face the prospect of being called out by the rest of us morons to stop them from loving up.
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Doctor Malaver posted:He asked why would you invite "hordes of foreigners". You replied that nobody invited them. He quoted Refugees Welcome as a slogan that proves that the hordes were in fact invited. Nobody in power. Does this even need to be said explicitly?
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Honj Steak posted:Shooting in a shopping mall in Munich? Looks increasingly like a Breivik fanboy: https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/status/756805092209221632
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waitwhatno posted:Probably not going to be any outright murders for some time though, natives are not that motivated nor desperate enough to murder for their lovely ideology. Way too busy with work, family and hobbies for that. Hahaha "natives". You can say white, it's okay. We know what you mean.
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waitwhatno posted:If I meant white I would have said white. 20% of the native population has an immigrant background, so a lot of them wouldn't be able to pass an AfD approved paper bag test. I'm French FYI. And we absolutely do have a concept of race like in the US? That's why when it comes to poo poo like random ID checks or having a hard time landing a job because of one's last name, it's always people of African descent who get it, with black people treated the worst. Almost as if the treatment of people of foreign descent depends on whether they come from former colonies as well as their actual skin color.
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Liberal_L33t posted:Firstly, I think it's a little bit gross to mention diffuse, statistical employment discrimination as a proximate cause for murderous suicidal terrorism. Not being able to find a job absolutely sucks and my heart goes out to them, but it's a pretty loving common problem in virtually every country on Earth, and somehow, 95% of the populations who suffer chronic long-term unemployment and statistical discrimination manage to not produce, on a yearly basis, dozens of mass-murderers who engage in mass-casualty attacks on civilians. Go back to my post and see if I mention terrorism even once. Can you read? Liberal_L33t posted:There is something wrong with the communities producing these terrorists that employment discrimination does not begin to explain, much less justify. Ending employment discrimination is a worthy cause but it sure as hell doesn't let the cultures and communities that are producing a bumper crop of suicidal mass-murderers off the hook. The roots of the terrorism problem are within those cultures and communities and have far more to do with their religious identity and cultural taboos than with any economic factors. When you have a poor, discriminated-against population in a rich country, you expect that community to have a lot of petty crime, theft, drug abuse and so forth. Those are normal (albeit unhealthy) responses to poverty. Terrorism is NOT, and I hate seeing it normalized as a response to comparatively minor acts of discrimination like not getting hired. I quite agree, we really shouldn't be afraid to confront the factors in French culture and society that have led to these events. One of them is absolutely systemic discrimination towards French citizens of African descent (black or arab), though. That has been the case ever since they started arriving in the country ~60 years ago. The latest wave of concern about Islam (or those shadowy "communities" you keep mentioning, I guess) is just window dressing on this old trend. Liberal_L33t posted:Secondly - and I'm genuinely asking you here, since you would know - are French people really just 100% reacting to the color of someone's skin with the discrimination and random ID checks you are talking about? Or are there other reasons aside from physical appearance that they might not want to share a workplace with someone from one of these cultures? I'm not saying that this discrimination is necessarily justified, but aren't there other factors aside from just race and national origins in play here? Isn't someone, regardless of skin color, who has adopted and assimilated into French culture much less likely to suffer this kind of discrimination? You are aware that I'm talking about people who've lived in France their entire lives? Guess what's the criteria for judging that they're not "integrated enough"? It's that they didn't magically turn white. And of course the random ID checks are done on the basis of skin colour, it's racial profiling. Liberal_L33t posted:And thirdly, if it is such a huge issue, why don't these victims of employment discrimination just change their last names to something more French sounding? Why is that such a big deal?  Real answer: Many black French citizens have French-sounding names. Still discriminated against.
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Squalid posted:America however has more experience both punishing and marginalizing minorities and more practice pretending it isn't doing so for racist reasons. I'd dispute that. France is also very good at punishing/marginalizing ethnic and/or religious minorities while being ostensibly colorblind.
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Fox Cunning posted:Friends, friends! I think we can all agree that both Europe and America are racist in unique, diverse and colourful ways. I'm pretty sure they're both racist in a very white way, actually.
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freelancemoth posted:March through the streets of Madrid in Phalangist uniforms? I take it you're going to be showing us photos of Daesh fighters in their burkini uniforms, then.
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waitwhatno posted:Local man, who is a textbook example of a racist, claims that he is not racist; has many Arabic friends, he says; all people equal, but maybe should be more separated Muslims are just normal people, but they sure rape more. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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computer parts posted:"Guys, Mitt Romney lost so obviously in 2032 we're going to have a Mormon President". You know that's not what Doc Hawkins meant when they talked about Goldwater's ideas, right? Besides, waitwhatno brought up Trump as a comparison to Europe's own batch of fascists. It's pretty likely that Le Pen will do a lot better than Trump, even if she doesn't win. And both the French Republicans and the Socialists have been seeking to attract her base for a while now. Both parties have no real solutions for France's economic issues so they're going for plan B: scapegoat the Muslims. You can guess what that brings to mind, I think.
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Arglebargle III posted:How could Sarkozy be helped by a popular Le Pen ticket? Wouldn't they compete for the same vote share? I don't think he is. Her base distrust all "establishment" politicians and he's certainly no exception. No, I think what will really help him is that Hollande was supposed to be the lesser evil, uncharismatic but effective, but turned out to be poo poo. Edit: Hollande literally pledged not to run again if he failed to lower unemployment. Well, the election's in a little over 6 months away and unemployment is at 10%.
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That's not totalitarian, more like FYGM conservatism with a bit more authoritarianism thrown in. Sarkozy would sell his own grandmother if it got him more votes, so of course he's throwing Jews under the bus. It's not personal, as they say.
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I just want one journalist, just one, to ask Manuel Valls "why do you hate our freedoms?". It won't happen and Valls would probably manage to give a non answer anyway, but one can dream. (Please take me with you) Kurtofan posted:Can't England or Germany annex us? And risk creating an unholy alliance of French right-wingers and English Tories? Are you quite mad? Kassad fucked around with this message at 11:50 on Aug 27, 2016 |
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