imgay posted:

remember that kickstarter chris hansen tried to do for more to catch a predators? sucks you have to pay cops to arrest paedophiles

The Ninth Layer posted:

This post has a lot of words in it.

I think both your numbered questions are already answered by Rarity's vote. Rarity voted you because you were trying too hard, pointing out your engaging with Lumpen's gibberish as nonsense content. A post like this strengthens that argument, you're asking unnecessary questions like "why are you suspicious of me in a Mafia game" and it's not a particularly effective defense.

King Burgundy posted:

The better question is why hasn't Kordansk been modkilled?

Podima posted:

C'mon, don't chump out.

King Burgundy posted:

Kordansk thought it was really important we discuss the choice, but didn't offer an opinion of his own and vanished. Wheeee.

I chose fire btw.

kordansk posted:

Ah yeah. Sorry, got sleepy. I live in Australia. I was mid post, and then fell asleep. I was going to say any direction with fire seems bad. I was thinking river or swamp.

Rarity posted:

If it was day I would vote you for this post. It's throwing shade on an easy target with accusations that aren't backed up by evidence and without looking I don't think a couple of those are true. Please show quotes where he is MYLO scaring and mafia dadding.

Jimson posted:

Okay, so we have 3 dead town alligned players, AnonymousNarcotics, who was our healer Podima, and Chic Trombone who were both Vanilla town. We also have Murmur Twin, who's claim I take seriously because it was unprompted, and they had the flavor and everything down in away that fits the game setting. So thats 4 players who's, at least in my opinion roles we do know.

Then there's BK who has kind of a mystery role. I truly believe they are a 3p, but either they are SK, and we need to make a serious decision about whether or not leaving an SK alive for the sake of possibly getting a scum vote is worth it, or they are some other game role, and we need to deal with that when the time comes.

Then there's me, Who I obviously know isn't scum, and I know including yourself in a list of peoples who's roles we know is kind of a poo poo manouver, the only reason I am including myself is because of this next part. I truly believe Rarity is town, because of a night action that I performed on her, I won't go into specifics but I have good evidence to prove she isn't scum.

There are 18 total players, 2 of which I believe are 3p leaving us with 16.
Then we have 3 dead town players, leaving us with 13.
Then there's me, leaving us with 12 players, and then there's rarity which makes 11.
So that's 5 town, 2 3p, and a mystery number of scum.

If we assume that the spread is 2 3rd parties, 11 Town, and 5 scum then right now, we are left with 8 town, the 2 3rd parties, and 5 scum. So despite us having the majority numbers, Scum has a definite advantage, because if we leave BK alive, and he really is a SK and he does choose to night kill, the moment the next night ends, there will (worse case scenario) be 5 town left, 2 3rd parties, and 5 scum. This of course is assuming were all idiots and vote out a town player. But, if we vote out Bottleknight, theres a chance that he really is a SK, in which case we are have 1 3rd party, 5 scum, and 8 town and of course we'll be dropped to 7 once night performs a night kill.

The big thing I am afraid of, is what if BK isn't SK we vote him but scum has some kind of special role that let's them get a second kill, like ninja or something . So we kill BK, leaving us with 1 3p, 6 town, and 5 scum, if that happens we need to make A REALLY good vote on the next day for lynch or were hosed. So, I think instead of killing what we "know" I say we scumhunt more, and leave BK alive on the off chance he is lying (Like he's done all day) and hopefully find a REALLY good candidate for a lynch kill.

Jimson posted:

See, these posts come off as SUPER scummy to me because it's like your voting with out actually moving your vote. Either place the vote or don't even bring it up. It's just an easy way to draw attention to your target with out ever moving your vote.

Jimson posted:

See the only problem is that the word Vote has a HUGE weight to it. While saying, hey I think asiina is acting scummy to. Is completely different and carries little weight other than that of your word.

Your right, and in a lot of ways my changing vote could be seen as me flipping sides to avoid heat. The problem is, since I know for sure that I am town, and it's 10 votes to lynch theres no real reason for me to park my vote all day on someone who, if they are the role I and (may be putting to much weight on his words) quidnose believe them to be wouldn't be a huge threat to town on there own.

The only real threat he can pose is if other town are constantly throwing blame his way and ignoring scum players, and it seems the majority of town are parsing, and absorbing his information with out throwing suspicion his way. My initial vote against him was in response to everyone going WTF IS HE POSTING?! HOLY poo poo WHAT ROLE IS HE? If you reread my previous posts you would see that I have always stood on 2 platforms regarding my vote for him. It's annoying to read, and it might passively cause a problem for a town victory.

Jimson posted:

I'm leaving my vote on asiina. poo poo, at this point it would be dumb for someone to settle in, because if they flip town I'm hosed no one will believe me after that, even if I am town. I am willing to accept that risk because I know in my heart of hearts that there scum. Make of that what you will.

Jimson posted:

Which is a good thought process, but like you said before. All you've been doing this game is caseing BottleKnight. When I look back at your post history, the only BIG DEAL moments you contributed to the game were your self-claim, and you're seemingly obsessive vendetta against BK. From what little I know of Mafia, a common scum move is to pick a HUGELY polarized player, and push the agenda against them as much as you physically can so you always have a place to throw your vote that won't go against your already established character.

Other than those 2 moments? All of your posts have been following bandwagons. You lumped a vote on asiina simply because you didn't want day one to end with out a lynch, and you agreed with me on my theory about Lumpen, THE MOMENT everyone started to give him attention again.

Murmur Twin posted:

Theory: the Man's Club is the scumteam


Who's your biggest suspect now? Right now I feel like there's an easy case to be made on Kordansk and his 12 posts (less than Chic, tied with ANarc) so now would be a good time for him to start making some cases.

Other than that right now my gut is saying TMM and BHB for strongest suspects, cases coming shortly.

Murmur Twin posted:

I went to go case Lumpen but find constructing anything out of his posts to be really difficult, which in turn makes me wonder if that's a strategy. Are Lumpen Lists still a thing?

kordansk posted:

Question? You picked a player you wanted to lynch, and then went looking through their post history for evidence? That doesn't seem very towny.

Murmur Twin posted:

##vote kordansk

Literally an OMGUS.

Lumpen posted:

##VOTE QUIDNOSE

Murmur Twin posted:

Ah my bad I didn't phrase that as clearly as I should have! I'm not accusing you of OMGUS'ing me, I'm being upfront about the fact that I'm OMGUS'ing you. I'm sure just my vote doesn't mean anything and other people will vote as they will, but I feel like it makes sense for me as Survivor to policyvote anyone who votes for me.

A lot of it is out of a desire to have as much fun as possible playing a role that, to my knoweldge, people don't enjoy for some reason.

King Burgundy posted:

Kordansk is playing very badly compared to the last game I played with him, where he was SK. It does make me more likely to think he's scum.

kordansk posted:

We should lynch the claimed 3p though. They literally serve no purpose for town at this point. They aren't going to draw a NK, they can vote either way, and he may or may not be something else.

Quidnose posted:

Especially since it's 4PM in australia and he dropped that bomb and just took off.

Quidnose posted:

Quidnose posted:

Yeah quoting PMs is a no-no so good call not doing that.

How does your role activate? Paraphrase your role PM for me. What do you need to do to get results?

The Ninth Layer posted:

What message did you get for today?

The Ninth Layer posted:

There were no options at the start of those other days either.

The Ninth Layer posted:

You don't know when you get your PMs? It's day 3.

TMMadman posted:

Alright, time for a few morning thoughts.

I don't really know whats up with that whole KB/Quid fight. I feel like it's probably a D1 town slapfight that happened on D3 instead, but that's mostly gut talking after skimming it between Daredevil episodes last night. If I had to vote for one of them it would be KB because I have a much stronger town read on Quid. However, I don't think either of them should be the vote today.

I agree with TNL that MMT should probably be one of the lynches today because we can't trust her to vote with town at LYLO/MYLO. But it should probably be the second lynch because if we can get scum with the first lynch then MMT becomes less of an issue as long as she actually is a 3P survivor. I really do feel like I should have killed her with my vig just to have solved that issue, but I felt pretty good about Jimson being scum.

I'm not sure what to make of the kordansk claim. It feels a little convenient and I don't know why wasn't he more active in helping with the CYOA choices if that is his role.

Even with as little as I have been posting today, I don't really like the content of imgay or Lumpen. Neither of them seem willing to actually hunt scum and are mostly just posting nonsense. Although it's pretty hilarious nonsense in Lumpens case. I could see either of them being scum and hiding behind the non-content posts.

I do kind of like the JakeP case and I could move that way a bit later. However, I think I'm going to ##vote BHB for this post:


It's just wrong on so many levels. First of all, he starts by saying he didn't call Jimson scum, but still thought he was the best lynch candidate which is I feel is a scummy sidestep. Then he moves on to say that imgay is playing a scum game, but doesn't vote him and instead wishes I had killed him with my vig. It feels a bit weird to me because while it's certainly possible imgay is scum, he certainly wasn't scummier than Jimson by N2 so killing imgay would have just been a shot in the dark.

Khris Kruel posted:

also holy poo poo is kordansk loving scummy for his botched roleclaim

I mean, blaming Kashuno for not giving you information as the day already started?

The Ninth Layer posted:

The townies are voting JakeP. I've been saying this all day.

TMMadman posted:

I'll save you the trouble of writing a case on me: I vigged Jimson.

I could only use my vig on even nights. It's why I was saying that it might not be a bad idea to leave BK alive yesterday because I would have killed him at night. If I had been able to use my vig on N1, I would have shot him after he forgot about being deathproof.

Jimson was the leading scum suspect, so I figured it was best to take him out tonight. The soft claim did give me some pause, but in the end it felt more like rolefishing and trying to get the cop to counterclaim since roles like tracker/jailer can't directly clear someone as town until late in the game.

TMMadman posted:

Oh yeah. My flavor is THE VIGILANTE. I am a fearless adventurer who occasionally seeks justice outside of the law.

TMMadman posted:

Nobody, including myself, really seemed to believe his soft claim. If he had full claimed, I probably would have killed MMT just to get rid of the second 3P.

King Burgundy posted:

Interestingly, seemingly neither of his choices are scum.

But meh. I doubt he'd bother claiming as scum. He just killed the tracker, it isn't like anyone would have seen him do it.

He's just making poor choices.

TMMadman posted:

I'm taking a quick break from finishing up season one of Daredevil and after skimming some of the last posts, I just want to clarify that I am just a 1 shot vig, but I could only use it on even nights. I'm guessing Kash just didn't want 3 deaths happening on N1. I used it n N2 because I couldn't be sure I would be alive on N4 and there was a pretty clear target in Jimson.

Although to be honest, I'm kind of wishing I had killed MMT (no offense ) just to get rid of the 3P threat.

TMMadman posted:

It really feels like Jake is flailing right now and while some of his defense seems genuine, a lot of it just seems like someone trying to get the lynch off them by saying anything. For example, this:


Just seems like a post trying to flog people into voting his way.

I'm fine with the JakeP vote at this point, but I'm not going to put him at -1 just yet.

TMMadman posted:

Alright, I am going to back my two biggest town reads, Quid/TNL here. After rereading stuff, I agree that Jake is going to be the better lynch right now and he's been pretty drat scummy. I still don't know what Lumpen is doing, but Jake really seemed to be flailing earlier and now he's disappeared.

##vote JakeP

kordansk posted:

##vote TMMadman[/]

Khris Kruel posted:

what are your thoughts on lumpen?

TMMadman posted:

Well, here's the thing. As it stands, the votes I don't trust on JakeP are: Lumpen/kordansk, with a slight side eye at Rarity. And the votes I don't trust on Lumpen are: Jake/imgay, with a sideeye at both you and KB. Not to mention that the claimed 3P survivor is on the vote.

Khris Kruel posted:

How is the Lumpen switch to him a bus then if you think both are scum?

You don't think that would look scummy as gently caress if JakeP flipped scum?

JakeP and lumpen are in no way aligned