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mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through


polyester concept posted:

i have a breville espresso machine and a burr grinder but i never know how much grounds to use or how hard to tamp it. i do the finest grind setting (turkish), and somewhere I was told that the compressed puck should be almost solid when done but it never is even if i really put my body weight into pressing it. i can usually just rinse it out with water. the tamper it came with is garbage too. am I doing something wrong or is my machine not strong enough or what.

what about the tamper is garbage? if it bugs you you can definitely buy a different one; just make sure it matches the diameter of your portafilter.

anyway how much coffee are you putting into the portafilter? classic double shot is probably going to be 19 gramsish. typically for grind size one might start by going forward until the espresso machine chokes on them then dial it back until youíre getting a consistent shot in x amount of time.

which baskets are you using? it may have come with both pressurized and unpressurized versions (the former have a single hole visible in the bottom)

while you should manage some solidish pucks at some point, youíll always be able to break up any potential pucks with water; you shouldnít really dump a lot of coffee grounds down your sink.

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Oneiros
Jan 12, 2007




espresso grind is pretty dang fine and not all grinders will be able to achieve it (even with a "turkish" setting). the puck should be pretty dang firm after tamping but it's not a rock. iirc the typical advice is around 15-20lbs of pressure which is substantial but on the very edge of really "putting your weight into it"

what problem are you actually experiencing? quick/gushing flow? no flow?

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through


Oneiros posted:

espresso grind is pretty dang fine and not all grinders will be able to achieve it (even with a "turkish" setting).

agree with this and tbh it sounds like itís the biggest problem. the finest setting should be able to block your espresso machine. if the grounds arenít fine enough your puck definitely wonít have any cohesion (it should be firm enough to knock out in mostly one piece but you could easily break it up).

Oneiros
Jan 12, 2007




puck for espresso should basically be one of these (maybe a little less frangible)

Anne Frank Funk
Nov 4, 2008



cinci zoo sniper posted:

that said, i have special snowflake taste according to modern sensibilities, so ive been ordering everything vaguely hopeful i can find. basically, i hate sour coffee but can perfectly tolerate a bitter cup, which is precisely the opposite of what 3rd wave coffee people value. we have some genuinely good local roasters here in latvia, but all they sell is yigracheffe, acacia, and geisha, and my coffee taste is like ďhungover italian on a wednesday morning, 1974, colourisedĒ

i feel like you need to get on naturally processed santos and kill it with 100C water in an aeropress. that would probably bring out all the bitterness, and santos has no acidity at all, especially not from an aeropress.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 14, 2013






Anne Frank Funk posted:

i feel like you need to get on naturally processed santos and kill it with 100C water in an aeropress. that would probably bring out all the bitterness, and santos has no acidity at all, especially not from an aeropress.

that's my plan already, to get some pupled natural brazilian. for reference, my top coffies of last year were

7/10: https://en.neroscurocoffee.com/products/yes-blend-specialty?variant=23703013490746

9/10: https://eightouncecoffee.ca/collections/colombia/products/koppi-espresso-colombia-finca-el-porvenir-caturra-washed-250g-8-8oz

Anne Frank Funk
Nov 4, 2008



come to think of it, wet hulled indonesian devil beans have probably the greatest potential to overload you with bitterness.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 14, 2013






Anne Frank Funk posted:

come to think of it, wet hulled indonesian devil beans have probably the greatest potential to overload you with bitterness.

i still remember how my boss decided to open her bag of cat poop coffee from work trip when i had a day off (i was responsible for coffee at our office)

mystes
May 31, 2006



cinci zoo sniper posted:

i still remember how my boss decided to open her bag of cat poop coffee from work trip when i had a day off (i was responsible for coffee at our office)
Like she thought you wouldn't approve and didn't want you to know or you're unhappy you missed out?

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 14, 2013






mystes posted:

Like she thought you wouldn't approve and didn't want you to know or you're unhappy you missed out?

the latter - i even explicitly mentioned kopi luwak to her before she went to indonesia, where we had offices

she paid me a ton though so itís a shallow wound

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004




Fun Shoe

moka pot makes a perfectly serviceable short coffee, my kitchen isnít big enough to justify an espresso machine on the counter and even if it was id probably not bother

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through


imo anyone can fit a bambino but thereís also nothing wrong with just wanting a cuppa

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

And I'm only saying this because I care.

There are a lot of decaffeinated brands on the market today that are just as tasty as the real thing.




Fun Shoe

only mod I wanna do on my espresso machine is to backlight the water container so I can see the level easier. been thinking about it for a while but just never get around to buying the parts lol

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004




Fun Shoe

mediaphage posted:

imo anyone can fit a bambino but thereís also nothing wrong with just wanting a cuppa

can physically fit vs want an extra thing on limited counter space is two different things

Neophyte
Apr 23, 2006

perennially

Taco Defender

hey.

HEY!



I just drunk a cof

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through


jesus WEP posted:

can physically fit vs want an extra thing on limited counter space is two different things

no poo poo

Anne Frank Funk
Nov 4, 2008



may i introduce you to https://www.mieleusa.com/e/built-in-coffee-machine-cva-6405-clean-touch-steel-9676910-p

no counter space used and stebeís favorite appliance brand too boot

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 14, 2013






while i have immense respect for miele hardware, no :staredog: you may absolutely not

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through


i donít know who would want to buy a loving built in espresso machine. especially a super automatic! what a nightmare to do maintenance or repairs on

mystes
May 31, 2006



What if you had one in the wall in every room though

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through


mystes posted:

What if you had one in the wall in every room though

the pucks would stay in because youíd never remember to empty them without a full notification. you wonít get that because you cad about from room to room making espresso

then your house will be full of mouldering coffee

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

And I'm only saying this because I care.

There are a lot of decaffeinated brands on the market today that are just as tasty as the real thing.




Fun Shoe

drop em down the frame like the razor blade disposals

Neophyte
Apr 23, 2006

perennially

Taco Defender

giant machine in the basement with pipelines to every room

dioxazine
Oct 14, 2004



pneumatic tubes to carry your coffee to any part of your domicile

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 14, 2013






russians just had maids

dioxazine
Oct 14, 2004



to their credit, samovars are fully sick

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 14, 2013






dioxazine posted:

to their credit, samovars are fully sick

samovars are great, i miss the ornate samovars of my childhood

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through


dioxazine posted:

to their credit, samovars are fully sick

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018



Neophyte posted:

giant machine in the basement with pipelines to every room

just inject it right into my body

knox_harrington
Feb 18, 2011

Running no point.

thread has got me wondering if I need a "proper" espresso machine instead of the Melitta B2C

Zam Wesell
Mar 22, 2009

[Zam is suddenly shot in the neck by a toxic dart; Anakin and Obi-Wan see a "rocket-man" take off and fly away, and Zam dies]

Shaggar posted:

coffee time

Zam Wesell
Mar 22, 2009

[Zam is suddenly shot in the neck by a toxic dart; Anakin and Obi-Wan see a "rocket-man" take off and fly away, and Zam dies]

anyone know of a good book about coffee production? not a huge textbook, but cool and good. about the different processes, maybe some coffee history etc

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 14, 2013






Zam Wesell posted:

anyone know of a good book about coffee production? not a huge textbook, but cool and good. about the different processes, maybe some coffee history etc

world atlas of coffee by james hoffman

Anne Frank Funk
Nov 4, 2008



knox_harrington posted:

thread has got me wondering if I need a "proper" espresso machine instead of the Melitta B2C

nah, melittaís good. clean it before the mold kicks in and youíre good to go.

lousy hat
Jul 17, 2004

bone appetit

Clapping Larry

accidentally broke my bodum pourover chemex-alike while washing it :(

now I have the oxo brew 8-cup maker and itís pretty needs-suiting. :)

I had a good time fussing over the old one but itís nice to push a button and get good coffee, especially first thing in the morning.

given recent experience, the thermal carafe is extremely nice

Not a Children
Oct 9, 2012

Don't need a holster if you never stop shooting.



Went to a drip brewer with thermal carafe this weekend as well and was f'real surprised at how nice it is to get a warm cuppa 2 hrs later

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan




i need to get an insulated carafe. i always just let it get cold and microwave I but it would be nice to keep it hot without using the warmer that makes it taste burnt

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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PokeJoe posted:

i need to get an insulated carafe. i always just let it get cold and microwave I but it would be nice to keep it hot without using the warmer that makes it taste burnt

pro tip when you do run hot water through it first. coffe stays hot for hours

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004



https://twitter.com/lilyslynch/status/1483093057037901824

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lousy hat
Jul 17, 2004

bone appetit

Clapping Larry

itís wild how differently peopleís bodies react to caffeine. my partner drinks one cola a day and thatís their only caffeine. but if they canít get it, whanging headaches ensue. meanwhile I spent decades ingesting tons of caffeine instead of getting actual ADD meds and if I donít have caffeine for a day or two itís nbd

at least it was last time I tried. I should probably see if thatís still true

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