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I have an unusual situation in that I want to negotiate for something other than money. Specifically, I have a body clock that's charitably describable as "night owl" and uncharitably as "Delayed sleep phase disorder". What I want to negotiate for is a job that will offer flexible hours - and then let me actually use them each and every day. (I'd probably work 11-7 or 12-8 most days.) How can I negotiate for this? Is there a way I can get this in a contract so I have something to point to to say that I won't be able to come in before this time if someone tries to pressure me about it later? To be clear, this is serious! If I have to wake up too early, my health and temper become seriously impacted. Ask me how I know.  Anyway, I'm serious enough about this that I'd be willing to accept a somewhat lower offer in exchange for absolutely ironclad shifted hours. PS: this is in tech
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Important secondary information: I'm in Canada. I don't think Canada has a specific equivalent to the ADA. However, I'm in tech so I think it's more likely employers would be amenable to this. And there's excellent health care here, though now's a bad time to go anywhere medical (even to get a diagnosis) with COVID on the loose. Democratic Pirate posted:Move to the Midwest or East coast and get a remote job with a west coast company? Please! No jokes. Quackles fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Sep 5, 2020 |
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Sep 5, 2020 21:49
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White Chocolate posted:I think if you’re honest with your career field, do they allow flex time? I heard tales of one of my friends who worked as an engineer getting to work hours he wanted within reason as lobg as the job got done. Or if they don’t regularly allow flex time can you find a reason that your work doesn’t all have to by synchronized with the rest of the group? "Flexible hours" is at least semi-common on tech job descriptions, which is encouraging. I'm just worried that it'd be like how some companies claim "we have unlimited PTO" then look down on you if you actually use any of it - something less obvious from just the job description alone.
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Sep 5, 2020 22:26
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OK, here's a question. What's a good way to duck out of when you are specifically asked what salary you want?
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Sep 14, 2020 20:40
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:practically speaking for most industries non competes are incredibly difficult to enforce in most jurisdictions and you'll really only get nailed for them if you're like, in sales and bringing your book of business along. What about tech?
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Dec 14, 2020 02:24
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I read a blog post on one way to deal with impostor syndrome, and I thought it was pretty useful/cool: Pretend it’s brilliant conman syndrome, instead. “Day 31. No one has yet figured out that I’m making it all up as I go along,” may not help with the perception that you are making it up as you go, but it’ll be a salve to the ego.
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Apr 1, 2021 20:09
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Sundae posted:Uggh.... and I thought your comp package smelled bad on the outside! 
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May 11, 2021 02:12
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I have something interesting about to happen. After fully remote work due to COVID, my company is bringing people back to the office. I'm planning to negotiate to stay 3 days remote permanently. When is the right time to bring this up? The plan is to go to 1 day on next week, then 2 on the week after that.
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Jun 8, 2021 18:14
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Xguard86 posted:Asap I'd imagine. Why wait? I was weighing over 'now' or 'once we're at 2 days on-site just ask if I could stay that way'.
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Jun 8, 2021 18:44
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Xguard86 posted:I think you're better off asking up front. Are you worried there might be more repercussions than just a no? No. I just suspect that I'll have a better shot once I'm already at 2 days remote because "I'd like things to stay this way" is usually an easier sell than "I'd like to change things" in general.
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Jun 8, 2021 19:01
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PIZZA.BAT posted:i decided to scratch the surface a bit and found this: https://danfromhr.com/ Oh, so he’s an influencer.
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Sep 28, 2021 21:32
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knox_harrington posted:I guess I don't understand why on the one hand we would never disclose evidence of salary, but bonus and long term incentive (which are standard parts of compensation in this sector) are different. Because companies have to pay a salary.
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Dec 11, 2021 10:40
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My one-year jobiversary is coming up. Any advice on asking for a raise? (Programmer, small city, company is in industry, very chill generally [my division's org structure is fairly flat] and appears to be interested in retaining me for a long period of time.)
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Dec 13, 2021 10:00
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Eric the Mauve posted:You can't. Sorry. I'm going to ask anyway, Mr. Downer.
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Dec 13, 2021 18:11
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Eric the Mauve posted:Hey, I hope you find success. I'm rooting for you. Just go in knowing that the entire purpose of the review/CoL cycle is to prevent the specific thing you want to happen from happening. There is no One Weird Trick to increase your chances, I'm afraid. I don't know if I have a review* or CoL cycle. It's not a technology company; it's a company in [such-and-such industry] that makes [such-and-such] and has a small side division that makes [technological product]. That's where I am. There's also evidence (confirmed by one of my references) that they prefer people who will still be around in 5+ years. So I'm assuming the norms may be somewhat different than working 'in tech'. *Performance analyses happen every September, but they only grant a bonus. And my hire date was in February. Quackles fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Dec 13, 2021 |
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Dec 13, 2021 18:32
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:also dude even your "don't say poo poo" option you put in a lot of weird waffle language about conferring with another party etc which just makes you look like a weak negotiator. edit: aint no loving WE in salary negotiation drat, i do not care what your wife or your dog or your dad or your grandma or your throuple think, i ain't hiring them What about "I need to confer with my lawyer"? 
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Mar 2, 2022 00:59
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Seen elsewhere...  
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May 24, 2022 21:16
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gbut posted:As long as you don't talk poo poo about specific individuals, or go in guns ablazin' about capitalism and its ills, you'll be fine. So exit interviews are useless in the case of "this particular manager sucks", then?
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May 25, 2022 19:08
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OMGVBFLOL posted:So I've encountered the occasional application interface that does the obnoxious "this field is required" thing with a couple dropdowns where you have to pick number/currency/time for your minimum pay requirement, one that doesn't let me type in "equal to my peers doing the same work with similar skills and experience" or some other evasion. I'm a new grad in a field extremely competitive for new grads (registered nursing) and ive been poor my whole life so id literally take anything, so i knew enough to disregard my own judgement and just stuck in a value on the low end of the salary estimate for RNs in that area from a couple different employment websites. I believe it's to enter '1' or '0' and then explain if they ask you about it later on.
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Jun 13, 2022 01:25
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Pillowpants posted:Background Check is back and I was given the all clear this morning. 
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Jul 19, 2022 23:26
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Sundae posted:I think it's either horseshit or extremely company/field specific. in silicon valley it's supposedly exactly 2 years 😛
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Aug 12, 2022 09:33
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Sundae posted:Also, remember from the corporate thread: "ZERO DEFECTS" parking spot directly next to the handicapped spot. HR had to sign off on that. What thread is this?
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Aug 12, 2022 19:05
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leper khan posted:Head of HR wanted to know what range I would accept. She mentioned in the conversation that they had a target range. She didn't seem to want to share their target range. I've been there. I had a staredown with a similar HR person - which I lost. I didn't end up taking that job, but it was a valuable learning experience about what to look for as a sign in the hiring process.
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Feb 22, 2023 23:38
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Eric the Mauve posted:As always, the value of any and all stock-option setups a startup may offer is $0. I'm curious. Can you ever counter an offer of stock options with, "I'll forgo all stock options, but pay me $[bigger number]"?
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Mar 22, 2023 01:27
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Epitope posted:It's money what's planting the brain worms, not lascivious college professors. Well, that and the common business-school belief that shareholder value is the greatest good, ignoring things like long-term planning, R&D, etc., etc.
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Aug 30, 2023 17:04
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bob dobbs is dead posted:fiduciary duty basically never actually gets litigated and the previous rulings basically give corpos a lotta latitude in doin some poo poo I thought the board/shareholders just forces you (the CEO) out if you don't give them their money as fast as possible.
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Aug 30, 2023 19:33
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Euronymous posted:What if I don’t have problems meeting goals Euronymous posted:I'm gonna have to drop something soon, I think. Too many Benny Hill scenarios taking multiple calls at once. 
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Nov 21, 2023 10:31
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What's the lovely part they're adding?
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Feb 19, 2024 21:46
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Parallelwoody posted:Is it already signed by them? If not, you could pull the ol switcheroo that dude did with the credit card company and modify the contract before sending it over hoping they don't read it (don't actually do this). What story is this?
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Feb 21, 2024 22:23
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Parallelwoody posted:when I read their contract it wanted me to sign over power of attorney  
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Feb 22, 2024 00:48
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TBH the four-day, eight-hour workweek would be good.
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You don't get paid?
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