8-Bit Scholar posted:

So I never finished VLR. I spent...god knows how many hours, I had done most of the various paths, I put it down, never picked it up, and lost my Vita. SO I don't wanna buy it again and do the whole fifteen hours of dialog and stuff over. Let me spoil what I knew and you guys tell me if I'm better off just spoiling myself on youtube.

Obviously major VLR spoilers here:


So as I recall there's a plague that wipes out mankind and the whole point of this experiment appears to basically be trying to solve the apocalypse after it happens, utilizing the Nonary Game to do whatever those weird time shennanigans are to bring that info to the past. The old man is Junpei from the first game all aged up, and presumably the woman whose corpse we find is June. Alice and Clover were put into suspended animation and I don't even remember what Quark's deal was. I know the man in the mask looks like the main character, who I assume is a life-like robot who only thinks he is human.


Since it's been about a year since I played the game last, I'm probably misremembering or misinterpreting what I knew.

lotus circle posted:

Also to those who don't want to pay 20 bucks for 999: if you have an iPad, 999 is available on the app store for like 5 bucks. No puzzle components, but the story is there otherwise if you wanna just read it Visual Novel style.

NextTime000 posted:

only the VLR timeline end would have sigma/phi/akane/junpei escape the facility alive (somehow), so really anyone could be on the chopping block for the good best ending where earth doesn't get messed up horribly;

hell even the rhizome facility could wind up not even being what it was made out to be

all of vlr could have been fake but also real in another timeline

Jintor posted:

Depends what the EU distribution will be like

Free Drinks posted:

It is entirely possible I am remembering it incorrectly but I believe in the epilogue for VLR where you are walking around in presumably Kyle/K's body Akane points out that the player character is neither Sigma (old or young) nor Kyle. You are a third party that is able to jump into other peoples bodies. Thus you don't know that you are actually a old man and so on.

I'll just say I am mostly looking forward to Supergreatfriend's LP of this, since his 999 and VLR ones where great.

Too bad it will be a year or two until it gets finished.

Nate RFB posted:

I strongly feel VLR spoiler tags are not needed. Who is jumping into ZTD without knowing what the deal is with VLR?

Color Printer posted:

I still can't believe it's coming out in June. I'm not completely convinced any of this is real

Wyvernil posted:

I'm strongly suspecting some kind of shenanigans with multiple test missions going on. It would explain a number of things, such as the paradox in the stated number of survivors.

Plus, it would enable a number of twists designed to screw with our minds. Like if there's multiple scenes where we overcome and unmask Zero, only to discover that he's a different person in each scene. Or if there's multiple potential people behind Q's mask(though that would be similar to what they did with K, so it'd be predictable). Or if Akane is called by her last name, Kurashiki, to hide the fact that in some of the perspectives outside of Group C she's been replaced with Santa.

GeneX posted:

I think it's cool how elegantly the need for good old blick winkel is justified, at least on a surface level. They need someone who can be present and yet remember stuff in greater than 90 minute intervals, so akane and old sigma decided to get something like that. It's certainly better than the payoff in (other game spoiler) Ever 17, which ends with a wet fart and blick falling in love with a 10 year old girl. Unless my memory is playing tricks on me.

Danaru posted:

The Esper arms race escalated really fast.

Free the Soul starts off by releasing Radical 6
Crash Keys respond by sending Espers from the future who's consciousnesses were sent back in time
Free the Soul responds by using an amnesia drugs so the espers only remember 90 minute intervals
Crash Keys respond by enlisting a metadimensional being who can jump between timelines and bodies

Maybe Free the Soul was behind Chunsoft not wanting Uchikoshi to make ZTD, to stop us from intervening We're ALL Crash Keys, and Operation Blue Bird was our final play.

_{I know it's stupid but it's fun}

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1nDafqdH9o

I'm sure someone already made this joke.

YoshiOfYellow posted:

I'm slightly disappointed we have a dog friend instead of a cat friend. Because the latter would prompt more quantum physics lessons with Phi and more terrible cat puns from Sigma.

Seriously those were some of the best parts of VLR.

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

I'd cite the Axe Ending as proof that it wouldn't, but it's hard to say, given that only four people in the game were actually fitted with bombs and Junpei wasn't one of them.

Terper posted:

It's the western audience, keeping the series alive

Lareine posted:

The problem is that you'd still have to solve the puzzles to get out and the "ship" was still "sinking". The only thing that removing the bracelet would solve is not having to strictly adhere to the door rules but once you are in the puzzle room, bracelet or no, you would need the solve the puzzle to move on or you're hosed.

Lareine posted:

They couldn't go anywhere because if they wanted to travel through a door nobody has done yet, they would be forced to solve the puzzle on the other side. If the puzzle had been solved, the bracelets would be rendered unnecessary because after sets of puzzles got solved, there was another way back that would be opened that made it so you weren't required to do the whole RED/DEAD thing to travel about. Of course, I don't remember everything so I might be wrong but I don't recall them having to do any numbered doors after solving the puzzle the first time.

andipossess posted:

Was it even the bracelets themselves that activated the bomb? It's entirely possible the bomb would have activated even without a bracelet and the bracelet would have just been needed for deactivation. Of course, it this was the case, only some of the characters would've blown up if they'd tried it.

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

It was confirmed by the writer that he was.

Ledgy posted:

Lareine posted:

Check out http://lparchive.org There should be a link to the thread in there?

Ledgy posted:

Maybe you could read through the LP's thread, then.
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3527266

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

I've admittedly been trying to push votes towards K or Sigma's Endings, just for the WTF factor of both.

YoshiOfYellow posted:

That's precisely it. It was an emotional test of sorts even though K knew that this Sigma wouldn't know who he was at all, he still wanted to see if maybe his dad would pay him some attention in some way or another. Of course, it didn't happen that way.

The sad part is during that whole spectacle is Sigma does give real consideration to using the antidote on K but realizes he wouldn't be able to because of the armor on him.

Lareine posted:

Remember when Junpei, Santa and June were all stuck in a freezer freezing to death and Santa and June start talking about ice-9 like they weren't in a time-sensitive situation?

Raxivace posted:

I think what we've all learned here is that Kojima and Uchikoshi need to make a game together.

voltcatfish posted:

"In terms of the level of violence originally we were going for a CERO D rating which is 17 and over. We realized that with those restrictions we wouldn’t get the same visual and emotional impact we wanted so at the end of the day we went with a CERO Z rating, which is the highest rating in Japan." -Uchikoshi

drat, it is actually going to be CERO-Z. Isn't that going to tank its sales?

the truth posted:

This is going to be some crazy poo poo. Hopefully it's not a ridiculous amount of gore for shock value, and just the realistic-ish aftermath of whatever traps are in effect.